The Tards sign Alan Faneca

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
not that we needed Faneca, and he's seriously diminishing as a player... but it pains me to see the rest of the NFC West make moves to improve while we sit around and "resign our guys".... which we haven't done either.

Arizona let Rolle and Dansby walk (the 5th and 3rd best defensive players on their team respectively imo), trade for Kerry Rhodes (who is highly overrated and overpayed), and signed Derek Anderson who makes David Carr look like a hall of famer. Hardly "making moves to improve." Fanecca signing with Arizona is hardly a surprise considering two of his former coaches are coahes on the Cardinals. Will Fanneca help the run game? Undoubtedly but he's also a big liability in pass protection and I doubt he makes a significant difference in the Cardinals success at the end of the year.

The Seahwaks traded valuable picks for Charlie Whitehrst. Yes they had a great first 3 picks which steals practically fell in their laps. The Washington and White trades were savvy, however I bet you guys like Blount, Dixon, Dwyer and Scott could provide just as much value (all were power backs drafted in the 6th round with the exception of Blount). Leon Wshington could work out for them (if his leg heals which is a big if, that was a nasty injury), but it's hardly as if Seattle is making all kinds of moves.

St. Louis hasn't done s**t besides pretty much letting go of its best defensive player.

Seattle is still in rebuilding mode, Arizona is in a major transition and pinning it's hopes on party-boy Leinart and St. Louis is years away. Our moves in the draft (Two o-linemen, respected o-line coaches, Ginn trade) have in fact set us up to win now much more than the moves of our rivals, by dealing with our two biggest weaknesses last year, o-line and special teams.

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:

Originally posted by RedWaltz24:

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
not that we needed Faneca, and he's seriously diminishing as a player... but it pains me to see the rest of the NFC West make moves to improve while we sit around and "resign our guys".... which we haven't done either.

I guess that explains the Ginn trade.

I would rather us save money under the self-imposed budget the Niners have, rather than waste a ton of money on a declining G, especially since we still have youth at that position.

It is amazing. People complain if the Niners don't sign every FA that hits the market.

STFU I'm not complaining that we don't sign every free agent, I'm not even complaining about Faneca...READ. I'm complaining that the one player we sign in the first month is David Carr... followed by Karl Paymah... and Travis Leboy. With the young developing players we have at these positions we'd be better off not signing these players at all (with the exception of Paymah).

And as much as I like the Ginn trade, it's hard to be too excited when we gave up the same value for him (a 5th round pick) that the Jets gave up for Santonio Holmes and Eagles did for Ernie Sims.

Someone needs a tampon.

Rex Ryan seems pretty savvy. I have to assume that if they let Faneca walk it's because he's not playing at a high level anymore. He might still be ok, but I don't think he's make a big difference. We'll still get to Leinart.

Lol at the title, the "tards"!!! That still cracks me up. I get a mental image of actual tards playing football. I guess they could actually be good with their tard strength.

No offense to any tards out there though.

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
No biggie, best friend is a Jets fan and said Faneca was easily their worst OL last year

Then, it's a great signing by Arizona!

he wouldnt even wanna come here anyway why would he come here to be a RG at best?

Originally posted by chico49erfan:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:
f**k the tards

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
not that we needed Faneca, and he's seriously diminishing as a player... but it pains me to see the rest of the NFC West make moves to improve while we sit around and "resign our guys".... which we haven't done either.

Arizona let Rolle and Dansby walk (the 5th and 3rd best defensive players on their team respectively imo), trade for Kerry Rhodes (who is highly overrated and overpayed), and signed Derek Anderson who makes David Carr look like a hall of famer. Hardly "making moves to improve." Fanecca signing with Arizona is hardly a surprise considering two of his former coaches are coahes on the Cardinals. Will Fanneca help the run game? Undoubtedly but he's also a big liability in pass protection and I doubt he makes a significant difference in the Cardinals success at the end of the year.

The Seahwaks traded valuable picks for Charlie Whitehrst. Yes they had a great first 3 picks which steals practically fell in their laps. The Washington and White trades were savvy, however I bet you guys like Blount, Dixon, Dwyer and Scott could provide just as much value (all were power backs drafted in the 6th round with the exception of Blount). Leon Wshington could work out for them (if his leg heals which is a big if, that was a nasty injury), but it's hardly as if Seattle is making all kinds of moves.

St. Louis hasn't done s**t besides pretty much letting go of its best defensive player.

Seattle is still in rebuilding mode, Arizona is in a major transition and pinning it's hopes on party-boy Leinart and St. Louis is years away. Our moves in the draft (Two o-linemen, respected o-line coaches, Ginn trade) have in fact set us up to win now much more than the moves of our rivals, by dealing with our two biggest weaknesses last year, o-line and special teams.

Maybe you should sit down before I tell you this.....

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
not that we needed Faneca, and he's seriously diminishing as a player... but it pains me to see the rest of the NFC West make moves to improve while we sit around and "resign our guys".... which we haven't done either.

Arizona let Rolle and Dansby walk (the 5th and 3rd best defensive players on their team respectively imo), trade for Kerry Rhodes (who is highly overrated and overpayed), and signed Derek Anderson who makes David Carr look like a hall of famer. Hardly "making moves to improve." Fanecca signing with Arizona is hardly a surprise considering two of his former coaches are coahes on the Cardinals. Will Fanneca help the run game? Undoubtedly but he's also a big liability in pass protection and I doubt he makes a significant difference in the Cardinals success at the end of the year.

The Seahwaks traded valuable picks for Charlie Whitehrst. Yes they had a great first 3 picks which steals practically fell in their laps. The Washington and White trades were savvy, however I bet you guys like Blount, Dixon, Dwyer and Scott could provide just as much value (all were power backs drafted in the 6th round with the exception of Blount). Leon Wshington could work out for them (if his leg heals which is a big if, that was a nasty injury), but it's hardly as if Seattle is making all kinds of moves.

St. Louis hasn't done s**t besides pretty much letting go of its best defensive player.

Seattle is still in rebuilding mode, Arizona is in a major transition and pinning it's hopes on party-boy Leinart and St. Louis is years away. Our moves in the draft (Two o-linemen, respected o-line coaches, Ginn trade) have in fact set us up to win now much more than the moves of our rivals, by dealing with our two biggest weaknesses last year, o-line and special teams.

Maybe you should sit down before I tell you this.....

Yes Arizona lost players, but they made the best moves possible to replace such players at a reasonable rate. Rolle and Dansby didn't deserve 2/3 of the money they signed for. They made moves to land Kherry Rhodes, Derek Anderson, Joey Porter, and Alen Faneca... got a STEAL in Brian Price and a great Dansby replacement in Daryl Washington. The 49ers are terrible at replacing free agents (see TO with Rashaun Woods, Jeff Garcia with Tim Rattay, Justin Smiley with David Baas/Chilo Rachal, Julian Peterson with Manny Lawson, Bryant Young with Kentwan Balmer).

I agree, I thought Seattle's acquisition of Whitehurst was a terrible move, making them miss out on Claussen, but with that said he's the most NFL ready option they have if Hasselbeck gets hurt again. Not to mention they had the best draft I've seen a team have in a long time. Leon Washington is a perfect change of pace back we desperately need. Seattle has atleast made concerted efforts to sign playmakers (Brandon Marshall, Aaron Kampman, Julius Peppers).

I just wish we would do one or the other (resign our guys or bring aboard quality players at positions of need).

[ Edited by 49oz2superbowl on Apr 28, 2010 at 09:25:33 ]

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
not that we needed Faneca, and he's seriously diminishing as a player... but it pains me to see the rest of the NFC West make moves to improve while we sit around and "resign our guys".... which we haven't done either.

Arizona let Rolle and Dansby walk (the 5th and 3rd best defensive players on their team respectively imo), trade for Kerry Rhodes (who is highly overrated and overpayed), and signed Derek Anderson who makes David Carr look like a hall of famer. Hardly "making moves to improve." Fanecca signing with Arizona is hardly a surprise considering two of his former coaches are coahes on the Cardinals. Will Fanneca help the run game? Undoubtedly but he's also a big liability in pass protection and I doubt he makes a significant difference in the Cardinals success at the end of the year.

The Seahwaks traded valuable picks for Charlie Whitehrst. Yes they had a great first 3 picks which steals practically fell in their laps. The Washington and White trades were savvy, however I bet you guys like Blount, Dixon, Dwyer and Scott could provide just as much value (all were power backs drafted in the 6th round with the exception of Blount). Leon Wshington could work out for them (if his leg heals which is a big if, that was a nasty injury), but it's hardly as if Seattle is making all kinds of moves.

St. Louis hasn't done s**t besides pretty much letting go of its best defensive player.

Seattle is still in rebuilding mode, Arizona is in a major transition and pinning it's hopes on party-boy Leinart and St. Louis is years away. Our moves in the draft (Two o-linemen, respected o-line coaches, Ginn trade) have in fact set us up to win now much more than the moves of our rivals, by dealing with our two biggest weaknesses last year, o-line and special teams.

Maybe you should sit down before I tell you this.....

Yes Arizona lost players, but they made the best moves possible to replace such players at a reasonable rate. Rolle and Dansby didn't deserve 2/3 of the money they signed for. They made moves to land Kherry Rhodes, Derek Anderson, Joey Porter, and Alen Faneca... got a STEAL in Brian Price and a great Dansby replacement in Daryl Washington. The 49ers are terrible at replacing free agents (see TO with Rashaun Woods, Jeff Garcia with Tim Rattay, Justin Smiley with David Baas/Chilo Rachal, Julian Peterson with Manny Lawson, Bryant Young with Kentwan Balmer).


I just wish we would do one or the other (resign our guys or bring aboard quality players at positions of need).

Did I miss something?

Originally posted by SolRebe1:

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
not that we needed Faneca, and he's seriously diminishing as a player... but it pains me to see the rest of the NFC West make moves to improve while we sit around and "resign our guys".... which we haven't done either.

Arizona let Rolle and Dansby walk (the 5th and 3rd best defensive players on their team respectively imo), trade for Kerry Rhodes (who is highly overrated and overpayed), and signed Derek Anderson who makes David Carr look like a hall of famer. Hardly "making moves to improve." Fanecca signing with Arizona is hardly a surprise considering two of his former coaches are coahes on the Cardinals. Will Fanneca help the run game? Undoubtedly but he's also a big liability in pass protection and I doubt he makes a significant difference in the Cardinals success at the end of the year.

The Seahwaks traded valuable picks for Charlie Whitehrst. Yes they had a great first 3 picks which steals practically fell in their laps. The Washington and White trades were savvy, however I bet you guys like Blount, Dixon, Dwyer and Scott could provide just as much value (all were power backs drafted in the 6th round with the exception of Blount). Leon Wshington could work out for them (if his leg heals which is a big if, that was a nasty injury), but it's hardly as if Seattle is making all kinds of moves.

St. Louis hasn't done s**t besides pretty much letting go of its best defensive player.

Seattle is still in rebuilding mode, Arizona is in a major transition and pinning it's hopes on party-boy Leinart and St. Louis is years away. Our moves in the draft (Two o-linemen, respected o-line coaches, Ginn trade) have in fact set us up to win now much more than the moves of our rivals, by dealing with our two biggest weaknesses last year, o-line and special teams.

Maybe you should sit down before I tell you this.....

Yes Arizona lost players, but they made the best moves possible to replace such players at a reasonable rate. Rolle and Dansby didn't deserve 2/3 of the money they signed for. They made moves to land Kherry Rhodes, Derek Anderson, Joey Porter, and Alen Faneca... got a STEAL in Brian Price and a great Dansby replacement in Daryl Washington. The 49ers are terrible at replacing free agents (see TO with Rashaun Woods, Jeff Garcia with Tim Rattay, Justin Smiley with David Baas/Chilo Rachal, Julian Peterson with Manny Lawson, Bryant Young with Kentwan Balmer).


I just wish we would do one or the other (resign our guys or bring aboard quality players at positions of need).

Did I miss something?

Blount signed with the Titans. But UDFA isn't a great area to point at. We went after players that there's no roster room for. We could've gotten guys like AJ Jefferson who could push for the 5th cb spot or guys like Tony Washington/Ciron Black who could push players like Wragge and Snyder for a roster spot. Or even a change of pace back. Jarret Brown has no chance at the 53 man roster with Smith, Carr, and Davis holding down three spots. Even Leroy Vann is a waste of a 53 man roster spot with players like Ted Ginn and Kyle Williams added. As much value as we pursued with our UDFA, they are all at spots where they are incredibly unlikely to make any worthwhile contribution besides hopefully landing on our PS (which they likely won't if they show enough in preseason).

[ Edited by 49oz2superbowl on Apr 28, 2010 at 09:47:12 ]

Originally posted by SolRebe1:

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
not that we needed Faneca, and he's seriously diminishing as a player... but it pains me to see the rest of the NFC West make moves to improve while we sit around and "resign our guys".... which we haven't done either.

Arizona let Rolle and Dansby walk (the 5th and 3rd best defensive players on their team respectively imo), trade for Kerry Rhodes (who is highly overrated and overpayed), and signed Derek Anderson who makes David Carr look like a hall of famer. Hardly "making moves to improve." Fanecca signing with Arizona is hardly a surprise considering two of his former coaches are coahes on the Cardinals. Will Fanneca help the run game? Undoubtedly but he's also a big liability in pass protection and I doubt he makes a significant difference in the Cardinals success at the end of the year.

The Seahwaks traded valuable picks for Charlie Whitehrst. Yes they had a great first 3 picks which steals practically fell in their laps. The Washington and White trades were savvy, however I bet you guys like Blount, Dixon, Dwyer and Scott could provide just as much value (all were power backs drafted in the 6th round with the exception of Blount). Leon Wshington could work out for them (if his leg heals which is a big if, that was a nasty injury), but it's hardly as if Seattle is making all kinds of moves.

St. Louis hasn't done s**t besides pretty much letting go of its best defensive player.

Seattle is still in rebuilding mode, Arizona is in a major transition and pinning it's hopes on party-boy Leinart and St. Louis is years away. Our moves in the draft (Two o-linemen, respected o-line coaches, Ginn trade) have in fact set us up to win now much more than the moves of our rivals, by dealing with our two biggest weaknesses last year, o-line and special teams.

Maybe you should sit down before I tell you this.....

Yes Arizona lost players, but they made the best moves possible to replace such players at a reasonable rate. Rolle and Dansby didn't deserve 2/3 of the money they signed for. They made moves to land Kherry Rhodes, Derek Anderson, Joey Porter, and Alen Faneca... got a STEAL in Brian Price and a great Dansby replacement in Daryl Washington. The 49ers are terrible at replacing free agents (see TO with Rashaun Woods, Jeff Garcia with Tim Rattay, Justin Smiley with David Baas/Chilo Rachal, Julian Peterson with Manny Lawson, Bryant Young with Kentwan Balmer).


I just wish we would do one or the other (resign our guys or bring aboard quality players at positions of need).

Did I miss something?

he is just making stuff up

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by SolRebe1:

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:

Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl:
not that we needed Faneca, and he's seriously diminishing as a player... but it pains me to see the rest of the NFC West make moves to improve while we sit around and "resign our guys".... which we haven't done either.

Arizona let Rolle and Dansby walk (the 5th and 3rd best defensive players on their team respectively imo), trade for Kerry Rhodes (who is highly overrated and overpayed), and signed Derek Anderson who makes David Carr look like a hall of famer. Hardly "making moves to improve." Fanecca signing with Arizona is hardly a surprise considering two of his former coaches are coahes on the Cardinals. Will Fanneca help the run game? Undoubtedly but he's also a big liability in pass protection and I doubt he makes a significant difference in the Cardinals success at the end of the year.

The Seahwaks traded valuable picks for Charlie Whitehrst. Yes they had a great first 3 picks which steals practically fell in their laps. The Washington and White trades were savvy, however I bet you guys like Blount, Dixon, Dwyer and Scott could provide just as much value (all were power backs drafted in the 6th round with the exception of Blount). Leon Wshington could work out for them (if his leg heals which is a big if, that was a nasty injury), but it's hardly as if Seattle is making all kinds of moves.

St. Louis hasn't done s**t besides pretty much letting go of its best defensive player.

Seattle is still in rebuilding mode, Arizona is in a major transition and pinning it's hopes on party-boy Leinart and St. Louis is years away. Our moves in the draft (Two o-linemen, respected o-line coaches, Ginn trade) have in fact set us up to win now much more than the moves of our rivals, by dealing with our two biggest weaknesses last year, o-line and special teams.

Maybe you should sit down before I tell you this.....

Yes Arizona lost players, but they made the best moves possible to replace such players at a reasonable rate. Rolle and Dansby didn't deserve 2/3 of the money they signed for. They made moves to land Kherry Rhodes, Derek Anderson, Joey Porter, and Alen Faneca... got a STEAL in Brian Price and a great Dansby replacement in Daryl Washington. The 49ers are terrible at replacing free agents (see TO with Rashaun Woods, Jeff Garcia with Tim Rattay, Justin Smiley with David Baas/Chilo Rachal, Julian Peterson with Manny Lawson, Bryant Young with Kentwan Balmer).


I just wish we would do one or the other (resign our guys or bring aboard quality players at positions of need).

Did I miss something?

he is just making stuff up

Sorry, I meant Dan Williams... same position. A top 15 talent at a position of dire need.

[ Edited by 49oz2superbowl on Apr 28, 2010 at 09:49:38 ]

Originally posted by AB83Rules:
not to get off subject but for those pissed, we havent extended players, well maybe they arent ready to be extended.

Bingo unless i missed something VD and Goldson have only had 1 good season. Why should they be getting huge extensions? Would it hurt for the team and fans to actually see these guys have consecutive great seasons before breaking the bank. Matter of fact Goldson had a great final 6/7 games. Willis no doubt, but these other guys need to prove they are worth it. See Parys as an example of what happens when you get an extension too quickly.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:
not to get off subject but for those pissed, we havent extended players, well maybe they arent ready to be extended.

Bingo unless i missed something VD and Goldson have only had 1 good season. Why should they be getting huge extensions? Would it hurt for the team and fans to actually see these guys have consecutive great seasons before breaking the bank. Matter of fact Goldson had a great final 6/7 games. Willis no doubt, but these other guys need to prove they are worth it. See Parys as an example of what happens when you get an extension too quickly.

Well if we're not ready to pay them this year, then we should atleast sign a relatively big name free agent (ex. Joey Porter) with a front-loaded contract. We are too complacent just letting cap space sit and go to waste for a year. It's not like we're a small market team that's strapped for cash.