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List of 2010 FA's

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Merriman is 100% going to be a free agent

No franchise tag even if he steps his game up for the rest of the season.

However, I'm still conflicted on whether to go after him. He doesnt look the same, but I think thats in large part due to missing a season due to his knee injury.

agree, we have a shot at merriman question is do we want him? my choice would be elvis dumervil be we all know he aint gong no where

Shaun Merriman would be a huge upgrade. Start Merriman and use Haralson as a third down pass rush specialist. Maybe a weak season means he will be cheaper this off-season.

[ Edited by fanmusclecars on Oct 7, 2009 at 22:13:32 ]
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Originally posted by ads_2006:
any rb's?

Not a real big need. I feel Coffee will just get better as the season goes on. The interior o-line has been leaving a lot to be desired.

Cadillac Williams is an intriguing option. His injury prone career would make him a bargain for some team. Heck he is starting over Tampa Bay's big free agent acquisition Derrick Ward.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by fanmusclecars:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by GEEK:
Why would we want Casey Hampton when Aubrayo Franklin is doing fine at NT?

Franklin is doing fine, Hampton is much better, besides Franklin is in his contract year anyways.

Hence the improved play.

But, I wouldn't want to disrupt the chemistry Franklin has with our offense, it just would be nice to have a Pro Bowl NT at the position. Hampton is a big part of why their defense is successful. Besides, we could still keep Franklin, we just would have to bump Demetric Evans, after all Franklin has stated that he could play both NT and DE in a 3-4. Balmer, Franklin and McDonald would make a solid rotation and number two team.

I'll tell you something though - there is no way we will be in contention for Casey Hampton. Too much money, older than Franklin.

Instead, Ndamukong Suh would be a better option. Smith-Suh-Sopoaga with Franklin, Balmer, and McDonald as depth.

We can tackle that NT position for the next decade with Suh, and he has the ability to play DE. So we could also have Smith-Franklin-Suh with Sopoaga, Balmer, and McDonald on the bench.

I believe we would have a good chance at Hampton, we have all the cap space in the world (OK a good amount) and we play a dominant 3-4. Sure Dallas could be another option, but I believe they're good with Ratliff. Besides, why waste a 1st round pick on a NT, when we could get one in the later rounds with:

Dan Williams, Boo Robinson, Trey Bryant or Al Woods

All who are much capable of plugging the run. But with Hampton, like I said, we have a real shot at adding a Pro Bowl NT at the position. We didn't hit free agency hard this year, and with free agency being stronger class next year, we could really take this team to the next level.

I just don't see why we have to fix something if it ain't broke. Maybe we'll have to agree to disagree, but at this point, I don't see a huge upgrade Hampton would have with Franklin - esp. considering that it isn't a long-term solution to the problem.

If you look at starting nose tackles around the league, the good ones that have proven consistency in their play are ones that are drafted in the first and second rounds - Wilfork, Williams, and Hampton.

I guess if we have the opportunity to address the NT position - prob one of the most difficult positions to get a legit long-term solution in the draft - you pounce on it.
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Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by fanmusclecars:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by GEEK:
Why would we want Casey Hampton when Aubrayo Franklin is doing fine at NT?

Franklin is doing fine, Hampton is much better, besides Franklin is in his contract year anyways.

Hence the improved play.

But, I wouldn't want to disrupt the chemistry Franklin has with our offense, it just would be nice to have a Pro Bowl NT at the position. Hampton is a big part of why their defense is successful. Besides, we could still keep Franklin, we just would have to bump Demetric Evans, after all Franklin has stated that he could play both NT and DE in a 3-4. Balmer, Franklin and McDonald would make a solid rotation and number two team.

I'll tell you something though - there is no way we will be in contention for Casey Hampton. Too much money, older than Franklin.

Instead, Ndamukong Suh would be a better option. Smith-Suh-Sopoaga with Franklin, Balmer, and McDonald as depth.

We can tackle that NT position for the next decade with Suh, and he has the ability to play DE. So we could also have Smith-Franklin-Suh with Sopoaga, Balmer, and McDonald on the bench.

I believe we would have a good chance at Hampton, we have all the cap space in the world (OK a good amount) and we play a dominant 3-4. Sure Dallas could be another option, but I believe they're good with Ratliff. Besides, why waste a 1st round pick on a NT, when we could get one in the later rounds with:

Dan Williams, Boo Robinson, Trey Bryant or Al Woods

All who are much capable of plugging the run. But with Hampton, like I said, we have a real shot at adding a Pro Bowl NT at the position. We didn't hit free agency hard this year, and with free agency being stronger class next year, we could really take this team to the next level.

I just don't see why we have to fix something if it ain't broke. Maybe we'll have to agree to disagree, but at this point, I don't see a huge upgrade Hampton would have with Franklin - esp. considering that it isn't a long-term solution to the problem.

If you look at starting nose tackles around the league, the good ones that have proven consistency in their play are ones that are drafted in the first and second rounds - Wilfork, Williams, and Hampton.

I guess if we have the opportunity to address the NT position - prob one of the most difficult positions to get a legit long-term solution in the draft - you pounce on it.

Sure it ain't broke NOW, but Franklin is also in his last year in his contract, and there's no guarantees he comes back. Besides, Hampton is only 31, Ted Washington, Kimo von Oelhoffen and Keith Traylor played for a long time in this league

And I disagree, later round NT's are just as good if not better in Kelly Gregg, Jay Ratliff, Jason Ferguson, Kimo von Oelhoffen and even Keith Traylor.
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Maybe I'm wrong, I've haven't done any research, but to my mind nose tackles seem to get better with age. As they learn the uances of the position, how to deal effectively with double teams and how to affest the play even when you're blocked they really become formidable beasts. Hampton is several notches above Franklin and would bring the Steeler mentality to the D. Even at his age there's no reason hamton couldn't be a top performer for another 4 years.
Jahri Evans should absolutely be our top priority come FA... McCloughan has refused to pay top dollar for interior offensive linemen in the past, but with the under performance of Baas and Rachal this year, I think he nneds to change his tune next offseason and pony up the big bucks for this beast.

He plays RG right now, but has the versatility to play LG as well - played LT in college.

Sang this guy in FA and Trent Williams in the draft and we will have the pieces we need to build the type of O-line that Singletary requires.
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Originally posted by abowers1984:
Jahri Evans should absolutely be our top priority come FA... McCloughan has refused to pay top dollar for interior offensive linemen in the past, but with the under performance of Baas and Rachal this year, I think he nneds to change his tune next offseason and pony up the big bucks for this beast.

He plays RG right now, but has the versatility to play LG as well - played LT in college.

Sang this guy in FA and Trent Williams in the draft and we will have the pieces we need to build the type of O-line that Singletary requires.

He may be a RFA depending on if there's a new CBA
I hope we never get Merriman EVER!

I have issues with roid users. Rather go 0-16 without him, that 16-0 with him.
Originally posted by abowers1984:
Jahri Evans should absolutely be our top priority come FA... McCloughan has refused to pay top dollar for interior offensive linemen in the past, but with the under performance of Baas and Rachal this year, I think he nneds to change his tune next offseason and pony up the big bucks for this beast.

He plays RG right now, but has the versatility to play LG as well - played LT in college.

Sang this guy in FA and Trent Williams in the draft and we will have the pieces we need to build the type of O-line that Singletary requires.

we need to go Oline in FA this year and we need to get some good people. The offense's downfall will be that Oline.
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I dont know if this is too accurate but I was looking at free agent Dlinemen and passrushers and theres a pretty nice list. the numbers are their age

Richard Seymour (DT/DE) turning 31
Kyle Vanden Bosch (DE) turning 31
Vince Wilfork (DT) turning 29
Will Smith (DE) 28
Adewale Ogunleye (pretty good against the run) 32
Fred Robbins (DT) probably more of a 4-3 type of tackle 31
Luis Castillo (DE) Pretty good 3-4 end 26
Shawne Merriman (OLB) 25 He was possibly the best passrusher int he laegue at one piont, that knee surgery that he has takes a pretty long time to heal from
Casey Hampton (DT) turning 31

Other guys
Jason Taylor...dont really want him
Derrick Burgess hasnt done anything passed 2 years
Leonard Little washed up imo
^old people

I know most of them are kinda old but
The people in bold would be great additons, IMO
Originally posted by ImaMod:
I dont know if this is too accurate but I was looking at free agent Dlinemen and passrushers and theres a pretty nice list. the numbers are their age

Richard Seymour (DT/DE) turning 31
Kyle Vanden Bosch (DE) turning 31
Vince Wilfork (DT) turning 29
Will Smith (DE) 28
Adewale Ogunleye (pretty good against the run) 32
Fred Robbins (DT) probably more of a 4-3 type of tackle 31
Luis Castillo (DE) Pretty good 3-4 end 26
Shawne Merriman (OLB) 25 He was possibly the best passrusher int he laegue at one piont, that knee surgery that he has takes a pretty long time to heal from
Casey Hampton (DT) turning 31

Other guys
Jason Taylor...dont really want him
Derrick Burgess hasnt done anything passed 2 years
Leonard Little washed up imo
^old people

I know most of them are kinda old but
The people in bold would be great additons, IMO

i would be extremely happy snagging Seymour and Wilfork.
Can you imagine a 3-4 defense with J. Smith/V. Wilfork/R. Seymour?!!
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^ I dont think we have enough money to sign those two and our 2 First round picks...Signing one of those guys would be great, theyre both stud defensive linemen, but I'd rather have Wilfork..hes younger
I think wilfork should be the priority here. We need a dominant NT to be a good 3-4 D. and Wilfork is the perfect D-linemen to hold the line. I don't think the patriots are gonna resign him since they drafted two DT on the 2nd round on the 09 draft.
Originally posted by Gore_21:
QBs -
Jason Campbell(27) Intriguing but no (we'd draft one before signing one IMO)
We might draft another backup or sign one if Alex is cut

RBS -
Chester Taylor, Minnesota Vikings (29)
Leon Washington, New York Jets (27)
Would take either of these 2 but probably not going to happen since our 3rd RB is a special teams player (MROB)


Top Wide Receivers -
Isaac Bruce, San Francisco 49ers (36) resign for a year if he doesn't want to retire
Don't think we will sign any more WRs especially if Crabtree signs

Top Tight Ends -
Don't need any

Top Offensive Linemen
Marcus McNeill(25)
Would pay top dollar and save a draft pick

Top Defensive Ends
Julius Peppers(29)
Aaron Kampman(29)

Would take either of these 2 but probably Kampman because he wouldn't cost as much.


Top Defensive Tackles
Vince Wilfork(27)
Casey Hampton(31)


Wilfork is priority #1 because he is younger, if Hampton would sign a 3-5 year deal or less I would go for it. The shorter the deal the better. Wilfork, I would give a longer deal to.

Top Linebackers
DeMarcus Ware(27)
Shawne Merriman(25)
Karlos Dansby(28)
Kirk Morrison(27)
DeMeco Ryans(25)
Thomas Davis(26)
Derrick Johnson(26)
D’Qwell Jackson(25)


WOW THATS A LOT OF TALENT THERE. I would take any one of those guys to play along side Willis but Spikes has a few years left. Most will get resigned/franchised.

Top Cornerbacks
I am fine with CBs, possibly resign Dre Bly

Top Safeties
I am fine with Goldson but in case I would take:
Nick Collins(26)

Michael Lewis is fine, dont see many improvements out there.

Nice breakdown...thanks
I say hell no to resigning Bruce!!!

What about Kyle Orton? s**t I'd take him.
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