My Ambitious (somewhat realistic) 2010 Wishlist by Position

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
No to Merriman and Wilfork.

Yeah, who needs guys that will make our defense better? Screw that! Let's just keep what we already have and hope we generate a pass-rush out of thin air! Who's with me!? I know AXEGRINDER is.

Way to get that post count up, big guy!

Way to incorporate Madden into real life, I know others have failed, but it might work for you.....big guy

Incorporate Madden into real life? What is wrong with you? How is a free agent being signed by a team with enough cap room to do so considered incorporating Madden into real life?

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
No to Merriman and Wilfork.

Yeah, who needs guys that will make our defense better? Screw that! Let's just keep what we already have and hope we generate a pass-rush out of thin air! Who's with me!? I know AXEGRINDER is.

Way to get that post count up, big guy!

Way to incorporate Madden into real life, I know others have failed, but it might work for you.....big guy

What are you even saying? Free Agency doesn't exist outside of Madden? Player of need is avaialable. Team in need has money. Player fits system. I'm not sure where the issue is?

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
No to Merriman and Wilfork.

Yeah, who needs guys that will make our defense better? Screw that! Let's just keep what we already have and hope we generate a pass-rush out of thin air! Who's with me!? I know AXEGRINDER is.

I'm not willing to write off what we already have for a couple of high priced FA's, one of which is coming off a serious injury. If need be, I'd rather address that in the first round of the '10 draft. Who's with me? I know 49erRider isn't.

I believe we have already "addressed" our line issues via the draft. Look how well that has worked out for us. Kentwan Balmer, anyone?

We need a dominant Nose Tackle and Wilfork fits the bill. I agree we might not want to take a chance on Merriman because of his injuries, but Wilfork is not a guy we should just say "no thanks" to just because we'll have to pay the price for him. The draft is hit or miss, Wilfork is a proven commodity. I don't think we should try to get both of those guys, but we should definitely look into obtaining one of them. People who automatically say "no to so and so" just because they don't want to spend the money make me laugh. It's not like we're in a bad cap situation, we have $30 million a year to spend! When your defense is a couple key pieces from being a top defense and one of those key pieces is available, you make an effort to get that piece - that is, if you want to be a better unit.

I'm not saying we should go out and spend big on every big-name free agent, but we're only 2 pieces from being a dominant defensive unit and these two guys can fill the void. They should at least be considered and not written off because you don't want to spend money on them.

On the other hand, we're talking about next year's offseason. We will have seen how good or bad our NT and pass rushers do during the 09 season. Maybe Haralson can become a good pass rusher and we won't have any need for a guy like Merriman. That's entirely possible. Franklin, however, will NOT do well enough to make us forget that Vince Wilfork is available.

This isn't Madden, and why would we want cheating Merriman, can he even stay healthy after steroids??

I know it's not Madden. If it were, I'd turn the salary cap off and buy everybody available.

My argument is not so much for Merriman as it is for Wilfork.

IF Wilfork is available, how to you figure going after him can only be done in Madden? We have the money to spend. It's entirely possible the Patriots will tag him, and if they do, then he's off the table. It's also possible they won't tag him because they're known for not paying their players, and in that case he'll be available.

because you don't buy Championships in the NFL, you build them through the draft...

We're talking about ONE free agent. I'm not talking about doing an overhaul of our team.

And if that old ass cliche was completely accurate, then what is the point of free agency?

Can we pull the damn Bear Pascoe bus over to the side of the road? He was drafted to be a blocking TE. Good Lord.

It's like last summer when everyone was saying Cody Wallace was going to replace Heitman by mid-season in 2008. What a joke.

Originally posted by NickSh49:
Can we pull the damn Bear Pascoe bus over to the side of the road? He was drafted to be a blocking TE. Good Lord.

It's like last summer when everyone was saying Cody Wallace was going to replace Heitman by mid-season in 2008. What a joke.

Pascoe has shown the ability to be a good receiving Tight End, despite what he was drafted for. I doubt he'll be making a huge impact anytime soon, but he stands a better chance at getting some playing time than Cody Wallace does. I don't know what the rage about Wallace was all about.

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
No to Merriman and Wilfork.

Yeah, who needs guys that will make our defense better? Screw that! Let's just keep what we already have and hope we generate a pass-rush out of thin air! Who's with me!? I know AXEGRINDER is.

I'm not willing to write off what we already have for a couple of high priced FA's, one of which is coming off a serious injury. If need be, I'd rather address that in the first round of the '10 draft. Who's with me? I know 49erRider isn't.

I believe we have already "addressed" our line issues via the draft. Look how well that has worked out for us. Kentwan Balmer, anyone?

We need a dominant Nose Tackle and Wilfork fits the bill. I agree we might not want to take a chance on Merriman because of his injuries, but Wilfork is not a guy we should just say "no thanks" to just because we'll have to pay the price for him. The draft is hit or miss, Wilfork is a proven commodity. I don't think we should try to get both of those guys, but we should definitely look into obtaining one of them. People who automatically say "no to so and so" just because they don't want to spend the money make me laugh. It's not like we're in a bad cap situation, we have $30 million a year to spend! When your defense is a couple key pieces from being a top defense and one of those key pieces is available, you make an effort to get that piece - that is, if you want to be a better unit.

I'm not saying we should go out and spend big on every big-name free agent, but we're only 2 pieces from being a dominant defensive unit and these two guys can fill the void. They should at least be considered and not written off because you don't want to spend money on them.

On the other hand, we're talking about next year's offseason. We will have seen how good or bad our NT and pass rushers do during the 09 season. Maybe Haralson can become a good pass rusher and we won't have any need for a guy like Merriman. That's entirely possible. Franklin, however, will NOT do well enough to make us forget that Vince Wilfork is available.

This isn't Madden, and why would we want cheating Merriman, can he even stay healthy after steroids??

I know it's not Madden. If it were, I'd turn the salary cap off and buy everybody available.

My argument is not so much for Merriman as it is for Wilfork.

IF Wilfork is available, how to you figure going after him can only be done in Madden? We have the money to spend. It's entirely possible the Patriots will tag him, and if they do, then he's off the table. It's also possible they won't tag him because they're known for not paying their players, and in that case he'll be available.

because you don't buy Championships in the NFL, you build them through the draft...

We're talking about ONE free agent. I'm not talking about doing an overhaul of our team.

And if that old ass cliche was completely accurate, then what is the point of free agency?

For teams like Washington to overpay players so they can continually miss the playoffs or not win Super Bowls.....

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
No to Merriman and Wilfork.

Yeah, who needs guys that will make our defense better? Screw that! Let's just keep what we already have and hope we generate a pass-rush out of thin air! Who's with me!? I know AXEGRINDER is.

I'm not willing to write off what we already have for a couple of high priced FA's, one of which is coming off a serious injury. If need be, I'd rather address that in the first round of the '10 draft. Who's with me? I know 49erRider isn't.

I believe we have already "addressed" our line issues via the draft. Look how well that has worked out for us. Kentwan Balmer, anyone?

We need a dominant Nose Tackle and Wilfork fits the bill. I agree we might not want to take a chance on Merriman because of his injuries, but Wilfork is not a guy we should just say "no thanks" to just because we'll have to pay the price for him. The draft is hit or miss, Wilfork is a proven commodity. I don't think we should try to get both of those guys, but we should definitely look into obtaining one of them. People who automatically say "no to so and so" just because they don't want to spend the money make me laugh. It's not like we're in a bad cap situation, we have $30 million a year to spend! When your defense is a couple key pieces from being a top defense and one of those key pieces is available, you make an effort to get that piece - that is, if you want to be a better unit.

I'm not saying we should go out and spend big on every big-name free agent, but we're only 2 pieces from being a dominant defensive unit and these two guys can fill the void. They should at least be considered and not written off because you don't want to spend money on them.

On the other hand, we're talking about next year's offseason. We will have seen how good or bad our NT and pass rushers do during the 09 season. Maybe Haralson can become a good pass rusher and we won't have any need for a guy like Merriman. That's entirely possible. Franklin, however, will NOT do well enough to make us forget that Vince Wilfork is available.

This isn't Madden, and why would we want cheating Merriman, can he even stay healthy after steroids??

I know it's not Madden. If it were, I'd turn the salary cap off and buy everybody available.

My argument is not so much for Merriman as it is for Wilfork.

IF Wilfork is available, how to you figure going after him can only be done in Madden? We have the money to spend. It's entirely possible the Patriots will tag him, and if they do, then he's off the table. It's also possible they won't tag him because they're known for not paying their players, and in that case he'll be available.

because you don't buy Championships in the NFL, you build them through the draft...

We're talking about ONE free agent. I'm not talking about doing an overhaul of our team.

And if that old ass cliche was completely accurate, then what is the point of free agency?

For teams like Washington to overpay players so they can continually miss the playoffs or not win Super Bowls.....

Teams like Washington go out and try to get EVERY big-name guy they can. We're talking about filling ONE position of need with a man who has proven to be very good at that position. I don't see what your problem is.

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
No to Merriman and Wilfork.

Yeah, who needs guys that will make our defense better? Screw that! Let's just keep what we already have and hope we generate a pass-rush out of thin air! Who's with me!? I know AXEGRINDER is.

I'm not willing to write off what we already have for a couple of high priced FA's, one of which is coming off a serious injury. If need be, I'd rather address that in the first round of the '10 draft. Who's with me? I know 49erRider isn't.

I believe we have already "addressed" our line issues via the draft. Look how well that has worked out for us. Kentwan Balmer, anyone?

We need a dominant Nose Tackle and Wilfork fits the bill. I agree we might not want to take a chance on Merriman because of his injuries, but Wilfork is not a guy we should just say "no thanks" to just because we'll have to pay the price for him. The draft is hit or miss, Wilfork is a proven commodity. I don't think we should try to get both of those guys, but we should definitely look into obtaining one of them. People who automatically say "no to so and so" just because they don't want to spend the money make me laugh. It's not like we're in a bad cap situation, we have $30 million a year to spend! When your defense is a couple key pieces from being a top defense and one of those key pieces is available, you make an effort to get that piece - that is, if you want to be a better unit.

I'm not saying we should go out and spend big on every big-name free agent, but we're only 2 pieces from being a dominant defensive unit and these two guys can fill the void. They should at least be considered and not written off because you don't want to spend money on them.

On the other hand, we're talking about next year's offseason. We will have seen how good or bad our NT and pass rushers do during the 09 season. Maybe Haralson can become a good pass rusher and we won't have any need for a guy like Merriman. That's entirely possible. Franklin, however, will NOT do well enough to make us forget that Vince Wilfork is available.

This isn't Madden, and why would we want cheating Merriman, can he even stay healthy after steroids??

I know it's not Madden. If it were, I'd turn the salary cap off and buy everybody available.

My argument is not so much for Merriman as it is for Wilfork.

IF Wilfork is available, how to you figure going after him can only be done in Madden? We have the money to spend. It's entirely possible the Patriots will tag him, and if they do, then he's off the table. It's also possible they won't tag him because they're known for not paying their players, and in that case he'll be available.

because you don't buy Championships in the NFL, you build them through the draft...

Walsh traded for Fred Dean, Siefert "bought" Deon, Cowboys later "bought" Deon. The Giants "bought" Plexico. The Pats "bought" Rodney Harrison. Getting free agents is not "buying" a championships. And how does one ruin the other? I'm not talking about trading away draft picks. I'm not talking about spending so much that we can't afford draft picks. And, as I've made it very clear in this post, I'm not talking about getting both. But just 1. If you think that means buying a championship you must be confused about free agency, how it works, and how teams use it.

Originally posted by NickSh49:
Can we pull the damn Bear Pascoe bus over to the side of the road? He was drafted to be a blocking TE. Good Lord.

It's like last summer when everyone was saying Cody Wallace was going to replace Heitman by mid-season in 2008. What a joke.

300 yards. that's all I said. It's not like we're talking about the next Witten.

Sorry dude but youre dreaming. norris wont be our fb for the next 7 years, no way gore gets 15 tds next year, youre underrating coffie, haralson already is capable of 8-10 sacks, crabtrees still just a rookie, etc.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Sorry dude but youre dreaming. norris wont be our fb for the next 7 years, no way gore gets 15 tds next year, youre underrating coffie, haralson already is capable of 8-10 sacks, crabtrees still just a rookie, etc.

Great summary.

And i'm not too high on Merriman.

I think Wilfork is a better fit and someone we should pursue. Of course though, Franklin started to come around (so did a lot of the D) near the tail end of the season.

Trying to predict 2010 is a little bit of a waste of time. As bored as you may be.

-9fA

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:

Originally posted by AkNiners:
When was the last time you saw a 39 year old fullback?

Tony Richardson?

Lorenzo Neal will be 39 in December, but I agree with AK. Expecting Norris to last more than another 3 years or so is asking a lot. People seem to be forgetting that his play seemed to have tapered off in 2007, but give him a pass on that season due to the Hostler effect.

Originally posted by NickSh49:
Can we pull the damn Bear Pascoe bus over to the side of the road? He was drafted to be a blocking TE. Good Lord.

It's like last summer when everyone was saying Cody Wallace was going to replace Heitman by mid-season in 2008. What a joke.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NickSh49:
Can we pull the damn Bear Pascoe bus over to the side of the road? He was drafted to be a blocking TE. Good Lord.

It's like last summer when everyone was saying Cody Wallace was going to replace Heitman by mid-season in 2008. What a joke.

It happens every year. There's always one or two late round draft picks or FA rookies that most people have never heard of prior to the draft but swear he's the next great thing after reading a couple promising blurbs about him during OTAs or watching him have a good Pre-Season game.

Originally posted by BMore9ersfan:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NickSh49:
Can we pull the damn Bear Pascoe bus over to the side of the road? He was drafted to be a blocking TE. Good Lord.

It's like last summer when everyone was saying Cody Wallace was going to replace Heitman by mid-season in 2008. What a joke.

It happens every year. There's always one or two late round draft picks or FA rookies that most people have never heard of prior to the draft but swear he's the next great thing after reading a couple promising blurbs about him during OTAs or watching him have a good Pre-Season game.

I think people are going crazy over me suggesting that he can manage 300 yards by 2010.