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My Ambitious (somewhat realistic) 2010 Wishlist by Position

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Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
QB
-Shaun Hill establishes himself, not just a short time solution, but as a winner who can manage this team all the way. Not as a 400 yd/game MVP, but as a guy who can do what needs to be done when it needs to be done, and put others in position to do the same. (He's the only natural leader on our team outside our head coach).

RB
-Frank Gore comes back to form, or at the least maintains. ~1300 yds and 15 TDs, with another 500+ receiving yards. This is not too much to ask for from a running team with some decent receiving targets and a player of Frank's talents.

-Coffee establishes himself as a guy who can gain the short yards. To be honest, this is not something I can see happening.

-Moran Norris becomes the lead blocker of the future. Not necessarily a perennial pro-bowler, but a guy we don't have to consider replacing for the next 7 years.

WR
-Morgan Establishes himself as a #1, Crabtree establishes himself as TD target and a great blocker, Jason Hill stays healthy, Ziegler makes the team and makes and impact. Brandon Jones is on this team? Why?

OT
-Alex Boone conquers his drinking/laziness demons, beats out Snyder and Smith for the starting sport, and becomes a legitimate run blocking starter by 2010.

OG
-Tony Wragge proves he can start once Baas is let go.

C
-I like Heitman. He anchors this line. Just wish that is Wragge starts at OG, and Baas moves on, that Wallace can be counted on as a backup

TE
-Sorry, don't see the long term potential for Davis, and lets face it, there is nothing to write home about behind him. I'm hoping Pascoe shows that he can catch 30 passes for ~300 yds per season. If Davis shows he can do 50/500 then we'll be set at the position with 2 decent receivers and great blockers. Would love a better outlet for Hill tho.

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DE
-I think Smith is one of the best in the game as a 3-4 End. Can Balmer become effective? I hope so! He came out of college with size, athletecism, and strength. But he was raw. By 2010 I hope he can establish himself as a cusp pro-bowler.

NT
-I was Franklin here as a backup. He's a good player, but not the dominant NT that Spikes and Ulbrich alluded to. You need at least 2 NTs and I hope he's #2.

Here are options for the #1 NT:

-Wilfork. Pats won't re-sign him. They drafted his replacement, and they don't really re-sign players all that much. Does he fit here? I don't think he's a perfect fit. We see to like a smaller D-line, while the Pats love their big lineman. The bottom line, however, is that he's Wilfork, and we desperately need a NT.

-Suh - I think he's a perfect fit. Smaller than the 350lb NT, but may just be perfect for the system we are running which likes the Balmer/Ratliff sized guy as the middleman. He's athletic, strong, absurdly productive, and truly a playmaker.

ILB

-Willis develops further. I know people think he's perfect, but I think he's got a ways to go to be the centerpiece of our team. He could be, but may not be there quite yet.

-McKillop becomes the legitimate TED. He makes Willis better and becomes the leader of our defense that we really don't have right now.

OLB

-Haralson becomes an 8-12 sack guy. But moreso, he also becomes a guy that can get after the QB a little more often, make some other plays, and force a fumble or 2.

-Shawn Merriman. I know this sounds redicoulus. But it fits well. We need a pass rusher, he's one of the best ever. His contract is running out, and if he doesn't perform up to par this year --which is not too unlikely due to last year's injury-- AJ Smith may be reluctant to re-sign him for the type of money that his agent will demand. This team is not shy about spending on FAs when they like them, and we currently have plenty of cap space. Also, don't forget about the Merriman/Manusky connection, which may further push this team to pursue him. The big question is how much he wants to stay in SD, and how much the want him back.

CB

-Clements stays healthy, productive, and happy with his contract.

-Terrel Brown and Dre Bly hold their own. Nothing more, just hold their own. Maybe force a few turnovers.

S

-Eric Berry. With 2 first round picks there is no reason we can't target him if our QB situation is sorted out. Maybe the best safety prospect since Taylor, and could be the best safety on our team since Lott. I've said this before and I'll say it again. The correlation between having a great safety and winning superbowls is undeniable.

ST

-We draft a return man. As early as round 1 for all I care. Can we have someone who can take the ball all the way? Rossum doesn't exactly have many years left, and it's looking thin behind him. I really do want a Hester like return man.

I doubt all these things will happen. But its possible that we do draft 1 elite prospect, and sign 1 elite FA is he fits well.

Just bored and thinking about football. What are everyone's thoughts/own wishes?

If this is wishlist for next offseason, hmmm.

QB -- I don't want to reopen that can of 10,000 worms. Suffice it to say that there are too camps. I want to see what Nate can do but I am rooting for both Alex and Shaun to do will. If the situation is not solidified by next year, we'll probably use one of these 1sts. But to say that Hill is the only Natural leader on the tam?

RB -- I love Frank, but no way he makes 15 tds. He'll get 1,000 if he is healthy but Coffee will spell him. Norris is not the FB of the future.

WR -- I want 1A and 1B (Morgan and Crabs)

OT -- I'd like Boone to excel too

OG -- no

C -- not going there

NT -- If we could get Wilfork, great

ILB -- Agree

OLB -- Haralson is already a 8 sack guy

Merriman is not one of the best ever. Derrick Thomas, LT, yes. Merriman is a juiced up punk with 3 torn knee ligaments. Javon Kearse was on his way but petered out.

CB -- OK

S -- Taylor Mays lol

Eric Berry is superior to Taylor Mays in every facet of the game,the stats do not lie,just look at both of their stats and you will see that it is the truth.Not only does Berry cause more turnovers,he makes more tackles and can play every position in the defensive backfield.I know you guys get hung up on his size/speed combo,but it takes more than those two qualities o be a great safety.Mays is not very good in pass coverage,he is more suited to strong safety,Berry is a ballhawk and he also averages more than 40 yards a return on his interceptions.Check out the following links.

Eric Berry

Taylor Mays

Both are bad ass safeties,but the stats show which is the better one for the niners.I would be happy with either though,but Mays doesn't make the plays like Berry.

I like him more too. This year will be very telling.

I am on the Berry Bandwagon. I like both safeties but from the evaluations and limited times I have seen them play I would say Mays is more a straight line athlete. Also, watching Berry he looks like a punt returner on defense when he gets back in a deep zone.

I said it in another post but to me Mays is worth one of our first round picks and Berry might be worth both. This year I hope I see a bunch of Tennessee games (on grainy YouTube clips that I can use as my tape to pronounce him the greatest ever!).

Check your PM
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
QB
-Shaun Hill establishes himself, not just a short time solution, but as a winner who can manage this team all the way. Not as a 400 yd/game MVP, but as a guy who can do what needs to be done when it needs to be done, and put others in position to do the same. (He's the only natural leader on our team outside our head coach).

RB
-Frank Gore comes back to form, or at the least maintains. ~1300 yds and 15 TDs, with another 500+ receiving yards. This is not too much to ask for from a running team with some decent receiving targets and a player of Frank's talents.

-Coffee establishes himself as a guy who can gain the short yards. To be honest, this is not something I can see happening.

-Moran Norris becomes the lead blocker of the future. Not necessarily a perennial pro-bowler, but a guy we don't have to consider replacing for the next 7 years.

WR
-Morgan Establishes himself as a #1, Crabtree establishes himself as TD target and a great blocker, Jason Hill stays healthy, Ziegler makes the team and makes and impact. Brandon Jones is on this team? Why?

OT
-Alex Boone conquers his drinking/laziness demons, beats out Snyder and Smith for the starting sport, and becomes a legitimate run blocking starter by 2010.

OG
-Tony Wragge proves he can start once Baas is let go.

C
-I like Heitman. He anchors this line. Just wish that is Wragge starts at OG, and Baas moves on, that Wallace can be counted on as a backup

TE
-Sorry, don't see the long term potential for Davis, and lets face it, there is nothing to write home about behind him. I'm hoping Pascoe shows that he can catch 30 passes for ~300 yds per season. If Davis shows he can do 50/500 then we'll be set at the position with 2 decent receivers and great blockers. Would love a better outlet for Hill tho.

--------------

DE
-I think Smith is one of the best in the game as a 3-4 End. Can Balmer become effective? I hope so! He came out of college with size, athletecism, and strength. But he was raw. By 2010 I hope he can establish himself as a cusp pro-bowler.

NT
-I was Franklin here as a backup. He's a good player, but not the dominant NT that Spikes and Ulbrich alluded to. You need at least 2 NTs and I hope he's #2.

Here are options for the #1 NT:

-Wilfork. Pats won't re-sign him. They drafted his replacement, and they don't really re-sign players all that much. Does he fit here? I don't think he's a perfect fit. We see to like a smaller D-line, while the Pats love their big lineman. The bottom line, however, is that he's Wilfork, and we desperately need a NT.

-Suh - I think he's a perfect fit. Smaller than the 350lb NT, but may just be perfect for the system we are running which likes the Balmer/Ratliff sized guy as the middleman. He's athletic, strong, absurdly productive, and truly a playmaker.

ILB

-Willis develops further. I know people think he's perfect, but I think he's got a ways to go to be the centerpiece of our team. He could be, but may not be there quite yet.

-McKillop becomes the legitimate TED. He makes Willis better and becomes the leader of our defense that we really don't have right now.

OLB

-Haralson becomes an 8-12 sack guy. But moreso, he also becomes a guy that can get after the QB a little more often, make some other plays, and force a fumble or 2.

-Shawn Merriman. I know this sounds redicoulus. But it fits well. We need a pass rusher, he's one of the best ever. His contract is running out, and if he doesn't perform up to par this year --which is not too unlikely due to last year's injury-- AJ Smith may be reluctant to re-sign him for the type of money that his agent will demand. This team is not shy about spending on FAs when they like them, and we currently have plenty of cap space. Also, don't forget about the Merriman/Manusky connection, which may further push this team to pursue him. The big question is how much he wants to stay in SD, and how much the want him back.

CB

-Clements stays healthy, productive, and happy with his contract.

-Terrel Brown and Dre Bly hold their own. Nothing more, just hold their own. Maybe force a few turnovers.

S

-Eric Berry. With 2 first round picks there is no reason we can't target him if our QB situation is sorted out. Maybe the best safety prospect since Taylor, and could be the best safety on our team since Lott. I've said this before and I'll say it again. The correlation between having a great safety and winning superbowls is undeniable.

ST

-We draft a return man. As early as round 1 for all I care. Can we have someone who can take the ball all the way? Rossum doesn't exactly have many years left, and it's looking thin behind him. I really do want a Hester like return man.

I doubt all these things will happen. But its possible that we do draft 1 elite prospect, and sign 1 elite FA is he fits well.

Just bored and thinking about football. What are everyone's thoughts/own wishes?

If this is wishlist for next offseason, hmmm.

QB -- I don't want to reopen that can of 10,000 worms. Suffice it to say that there are too camps. I want to see what Nate can do but I am rooting for both Alex and Shaun to do will. If the situation is not solidified by next year, we'll probably use one of these 1sts. But to say that Hill is the only Natural leader on the tam?

RB -- I love Frank, but no way he makes 15 tds. He'll get 1,000 if he is healthy but Coffee will spell him. Norris is not the FB of the future.

WR -- I want 1A and 1B (Morgan and Crabs)

OT -- I'd like Boone to excel too

OG -- no

C -- not going there

NT -- If we could get Wilfork, great

ILB -- Agree

OLB -- Haralson is already a 8 sack guy

Merriman is not one of the best ever. Derrick Thomas, LT, yes. Merriman is a juiced up punk with 3 torn knee ligaments. Javon Kearse was on his way but petered out.

CB -- OK

S -- Taylor Mays lol

Eric Berry is superior to Taylor Mays in every facet of the game,the stats do not lie,just look at both of their stats and you will see that it is the truth.Not only does Berry cause more turnovers,he makes more tackles and can play every position in the defensive backfield.I know you guys get hung up on his size/speed combo,but it takes more than those two qualities o be a great safety.Mays is not very good in pass coverage,he is more suited to strong safety,Berry is a ballhawk and he also averages more than 40 yards a return on his interceptions.Check out the following links.

Eric Berry

Taylor Mays

Both are bad ass safeties,but the stats show which is the better one for the niners.I would be happy with either though,but Mays doesn't make the plays like Berry.

I like him more too. This year will be very telling.

I am on the Berry Bandwagon. I like both safeties but from the evaluations and limited times I have seen them play I would say Mays is more a straight line athlete. Also, watching Berry he looks like a punt returner on defense when he gets back in a deep zone.

I said it in another post but to me Mays is worth one of our first round picks and Berry might be worth both. This year I hope I see a bunch of Tennessee games (on grainy YouTube clips that I can use as my tape to pronounce him the greatest ever!).

Check your PM

If that means you have sme info on Berry, please share
Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by BMore9ersfan:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Can we pull the damn Bear Pascoe bus over to the side of the road? He was drafted to be a blocking TE. Good Lord.

It's like last summer when everyone was saying Cody Wallace was going to replace Heitman by mid-season in 2008. What a joke.


It happens every year. There's always one or two late round draft picks or FA rookies that most people have never heard of prior to the draft but swear he's the next great thing after reading a couple promising blurbs about him during OTAs or watching him have a good Pre-Season game.

So far, Pascoe seems to have shown receiving abilities and might actually be a pretty good player.

Practice? We talkin' bout practice man? Not a game, not a game, not a game... we talkin' bout practice?



Bear catches a couple balls in PRACTICE and he might be a good player.
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by BMore9ersfan:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Can we pull the damn Bear Pascoe bus over to the side of the road? He was drafted to be a blocking TE. Good Lord.

It's like last summer when everyone was saying Cody Wallace was going to replace Heitman by mid-season in 2008. What a joke.


It happens every year. There's always one or two late round draft picks or FA rookies that most people have never heard of prior to the draft but swear he's the next great thing after reading a couple promising blurbs about him during OTAs or watching him have a good Pre-Season game.



So far, Pascoe seems to have shown receiving abilities and might actually be a pretty good player.

Practice? We talkin' bout practice man? Not a game, not a game, not a game... we talkin' bout practice?


Bear catches a couple balls in PRACTICE and he might be a good player.

remember when it was all about AI and noone knew Kobe? Then It was "who's the next MJ? AI or Kobe?". Now Kobe is the best player on the planet and AI is maybe a top 50 CURRENT player? Kobe always took practice more seriosly than anyone else
Originally posted by NickSh49:


Bear catches a couple balls in PRACTICE and he might be a good player.

You can "ohlord" all you want, I'm just saying he did enough to catch the attention of our beatwriters. Josh Morgan did the same thing last year. What I don't understand is why other guys like Cody Wallace get praise from peopl eon here when they've never done ANYTHING worth mentioning. That's all I'm saying. At least Bear has done some things that would make you BELIEVE he can be good.

For the record, I'd rather see Vernon Davis succeed, so I'm not on the Bear Pascoe bandwagon. I'm just saying he is giving people a little reason to be optimistic, unlike some of the other guys these people are high on.
Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by NickSh49:


Bear catches a couple balls in PRACTICE and he might be a good player.

You can "ohlord" all you want, I'm just saying he did enough to catch the attention of our beatwriters. Josh Morgan did the same thing last year. What I don't understand is why other guys like Cody Wallace get praise from peopl eon here when they've never done ANYTHING worth mentioning. That's all I'm saying. At least Bear has done some things that would make you BELIEVE he can be good.

For the record, I'd rather see Vernon Davis succeed, so I'm not on the Bear Pascoe bandwagon. I'm just saying he is giving people a little reason to be optimistic, unlike some of the other guys these people are high on.

That's all I needed to hear. We drafted Morgan to be a stud. We drafted Bear to block.

And we talkin' bout PRACTICE.
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Originally posted by DANADA:
how can everybody have no faith in VD but half the people here still think Alex can be great. I think Vernon is in a much better position to be good player. Have some faith people.
You say that Coffee establishes himself as a short yardage back, but then you say you honestly don't see that happening.
[ Edited by WheresWaldo on Jul 18, 2009 at 11:52 AM ]
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by NickSh49:


Bear catches a couple balls in PRACTICE and he might be a good player.

You can "ohlord" all you want, I'm just saying he did enough to catch the attention of our beatwriters. Josh Morgan did the same thing last year. What I don't understand is why other guys like Cody Wallace get praise from peopl eon here when they've never done ANYTHING worth mentioning. That's all I'm saying. At least Bear has done some things that would make you BELIEVE he can be good.

For the record, I'd rather see Vernon Davis succeed, so I'm not on the Bear Pascoe bandwagon. I'm just saying he is giving people a little reason to be optimistic, unlike some of the other guys these people are high on.

That's all I needed to hear. We drafted Morgan to be a stud. We drafted Bear to block.

And we talkin' bout PRACTICE.

We also drafted Davis to catch. But plans change
Originally posted by WheresWaldo:
You say that Coffee establishes himself as a short yardage back, but then you say you honestly don't see that happening.

I wish he can be a short yardage guy, but I don't think he will be. What's confusing?
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by NickSh49:


Bear catches a couple balls in PRACTICE and he might be a good player.

You can "ohlord" all you want, I'm just saying he did enough to catch the attention of our beatwriters. Josh Morgan did the same thing last year. What I don't understand is why other guys like Cody Wallace get praise from peopl eon here when they've never done ANYTHING worth mentioning. That's all I'm saying. At least Bear has done some things that would make you BELIEVE he can be good.

For the record, I'd rather see Vernon Davis succeed, so I'm not on the Bear Pascoe bandwagon. I'm just saying he is giving people a little reason to be optimistic, unlike some of the other guys these people are high on.

That's all I needed to hear. We drafted Morgan to be a stud. We drafted Bear to block.

And we talkin' bout PRACTICE.

We also drafted Davis to catch. But plans change

OK, That was funny.
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by NickSh49:


Bear catches a couple balls in PRACTICE and he might be a good player.

You can "ohlord" all you want, I'm just saying he did enough to catch the attention of our beatwriters. Josh Morgan did the same thing last year. What I don't understand is why other guys like Cody Wallace get praise from peopl eon here when they've never done ANYTHING worth mentioning. That's all I'm saying. At least Bear has done some things that would make you BELIEVE he can be good.

For the record, I'd rather see Vernon Davis succeed, so I'm not on the Bear Pascoe bandwagon. I'm just saying he is giving people a little reason to be optimistic, unlike some of the other guys these people are high on.

That's all I needed to hear. We drafted Morgan to be a stud. We drafted Bear to block.

And we talkin' bout PRACTICE.

I was unaware that teams drafted players in the 6th round to be studs.

In all reality, they drafted Morgan because we needed another receiver. He wasn't drafted because they thought he would be a stud, because if they did think he would be a stud they would have probably taken him earlier to ensure nobody else nabbed him. They took him because they felt he was the best player on their board at that time and he just happened to show a lot of promise.

Jerry Rice was drafted to be a stud, but a 6th round pick? I don't think so. Those guys are drafted and the coaches just hope they can be good enough to provide depth most of the time. Nobody really drafts someone that late with intentions of them being a STUD.
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by WheresWaldo:
You say that Coffee establishes himself as a short yardage back, but then you say you honestly don't see that happening.

I wish he can be a short yardage guy, but I don't think he will be. What's confusing?

You WISH, but don't think. OOPS! MY BAD!
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by NickSh49:


Bear catches a couple balls in PRACTICE and he might be a good player.

You can "ohlord" all you want, I'm just saying he did enough to catch the attention of our beatwriters. Josh Morgan did the same thing last year. What I don't understand is why other guys like Cody Wallace get praise from peopl eon here when they've never done ANYTHING worth mentioning. That's all I'm saying. At least Bear has done some things that would make you BELIEVE he can be good.

For the record, I'd rather see Vernon Davis succeed, so I'm not on the Bear Pascoe bandwagon. I'm just saying he is giving people a little reason to be optimistic, unlike some of the other guys these people are high on.

That's all I needed to hear. We drafted Morgan to be a stud. We drafted Bear to block.

And we talkin' bout PRACTICE.

We also drafted Davis to catch. But plans change

OK, That was funny.

Thank you. Sad that its funny tho
Originally posted by WheresWaldo:
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by WheresWaldo:
You say that Coffee establishes himself as a short yardage back, but then you say you honestly don't see that happening.

I wish he can be a short yardage guy, but I don't think he will be. What's confusing?

You WISH, but don't think. OOPS! MY BAD!

Its all good
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