Originally posted by bergy07:
AB8-

Just curious but how is dead money determined? I thought Kwame was at the end of his contract and I assume 2mil is dead for D Smith b/c we cut him?

K. Harris $1,088,509
D. Smith $2,001,668

thanks!!

Yes on Derek Smith, he was cut and took on a 2.001.668M Cap Hit.

As for Kwame, his deal voided and the remaining bonus money is accelerated onto this yrs cap.

#30 Donald Strickland(CB)-2008 $7,800,000

Isn't that about $7 million dollars too much? That's a guess on my part...

Originally posted by SoCal9er:
#30 Donald Strickland(CB)-2008 $7,800,000

Isn't that about $7 million dollars too much? That's a guess on my part...

Originally posted by adrenaline:
I can't believe after all that we have around 10k. Nice job, AB.

that would actually be $10m not $10k - and from that you have to deduct the $3.4m rookie pool.

the niners have circa $6.4m in cap space entering the 2008 season - enough room to play with! Look for a few players to be extended if possible with the cap room available - Baas would be a distinct possibility if a deal could be done.

[ Edited by British9er on May 10, 2008 at 14:55:01 ]

Hey Ab, do you know anything about what the '09 salary cap will look like? We're gonna be in pretty good shape again right? We should be able to sign at least 1 premier free agent.

Originally posted by forty9ers49:
Hey Ab, do you know anything about what the '09 salary cap will look like? We're gonna be in pretty good shape again right? We should be able to sign at least 1 premier free agent.

$31,412,130M, before Draftees sign there deals.

As much as I enjoyed watching Hill do positive things for an easy scapegoat of a target in Smith...

I gotta find it somewhere in my heart to hope Alex can really turn things around do the things we expected him to as a #1 pick

BELIEVE IN TEH ALEX!!!!!!!!!1

[ Edited by billybonka on May 14, 2008 at 08:39:41 ]

Originally posted by AB83Rules:
San Francisco 49ers: 2008 Season
Player: Salary:
#11 Alex Smith(QB)-2010 $11,186,200
#30 Donald Strickland(CB)-2008 $7,800,000
#75 Jonas Jennings(LT/RT)-2011 $5,842,000
#22 Nate Clements(CB/PR)-2013 $5,500,000
#21 Frank Gore(RB)-2011 $4,795,000
#52 Patrick Willis(MLB)-2012/2011 $4,075,000
#32 Michael Lewis(SS)-2012 $4,005,000
#36 Shawntae Spencer(CB)-2012 $3,698,800
#88 Isaac Bruce(WR)-2009 $3,500,000
#85 Vernon Davis(TE)-2010 $3,340,000
#95 Tully Banta-Cain(OLB)-2009 $3,266,666
#94 Justin Smith(DE/OLB)-2013 $3,083,333
#53 Jeff Ulbrich(MLB)-2009 $2,275,000
#18 Ashley Lelie(WR)-2008 $2,100,000
#83 Arnaz Battle(WR/PR)-2009 $2,070,000
#27 Walt Harris(CB)-2009 $2,066,666
#82 Bryant Johnson(WR)-2008 $2,000,000
#29 DeShaun Foster(RB)-2008 $1,900,000
#66 Eric Heitmann(OC)-2008 $1,890,000
#90 Isaac Sopoaga(DT/DE)-2012 $1,855,000
#68 Adam Snyder(LG/LT)-2011 $1,800,000
#92 Aubrayo Franklin(DT/DE)-2009 $1,733,333
#13 Shaun Hill(QB)-2010 $1,700,000
#99 Manny Lawson(OLB)-2010 $1,690,000
#6 Joe Nedney(PK/KOS)-2009 $1,630,000
#56 Brandon Moore(MLB/DE)-2010 $1,570,000
#26 Mark Roman(FS)-2009 $1,325,000
#74 Joe Staley(RT/LT)-2011 $1,220,000
#64 David Baas(RG/OC)-2009 $1,158,125
#44 Moran Norris(FB)-2009 $1,045,000
#28 Keith Lewis(SS/FS)-2009 $1,041,666
#4 Andy Lee(P/H)-2012 $991,666
#47 Billy Bajema(TE)-RFA $927,000
#86 Brian Jennings(LS/TE)-2009 $913,333
#20 Allen Rossum(CB/RS)-2008 $870,000
#51 Dontarrious Thomas(MLB)-2009 $866,720
#24 Michael Robinson(RB/FB/KR)-2012 $802,812
#69 Tony Wragge(C/LG)-2008 $697,220
#14 J.T. O'Sullivan (QB)-2008 $645,000
#54 Roderick Green(OLB/DE)-2008 $615,000
#93 Ronald Fields(DE/DT)-2008 $567,250
#89 Jason Hill(WR)-2010 $558,454
#63 Damane Duckett(RT/LT)-2008 $520,000
#78 Atiyyah Ellison(DE/DT)-2008 $520,000
#61 Qasim Mitchell(OG/OT)-2008 $520,000
#77 Jeb Terry(OG)-2008 $520,000
#91 Ray McDonald(DE/DT)-2010 $518,125
#98 Parys Haralson(OLB)-2009 $489,000
#38 Dashon Goldson(FS/CB)-2010 $473,219
#46 Delanie Walker(TE)-2009 $470,500
#23 Marcus Hudson(CB/FS)-2009 $466,666
#96 Melvin Oliver(DE)-2009 $466,320
#45 Zak Keasey(FB)-2008 $445,000
#55 Dennis Haley(MLB/OLB)-2009 $445,000
#58 Jay Moore(OLB)-2010 $415,000
#25 Tarell Brown(CB)-2010 $414,250
#67 Joe Cohen(DT/DE)-2010 $388,250
#40 Markus Curry(CB)-2009 $370,000
#48 Cooper Wallace(TE)-2009 $370,000
#60 Walter Curry(DT/DE)-2009 $301,250
#19 Jerard Rabb(WR)-2009 $295,000
#17 Dominique Zeigler(WR)-2009 $295,000
#33 Thomas Clayton(RB)-2009 $295,000
#7 Drew Olson(QB)-2008 $295,000
#59 Ezra Butler(MLB/OLB)-2009 $295,000
#81 Cam Colvin(WR)-2009 $295,000
#15 Robert Jordan(WR)-2009 $295,000
#60 Brian De La Puente(OG)-2009 $295,000
#49 Joe Jon Finley(TE)-2009 $295,000
#62 Louis Holmes(DE/OLB)-2009 $295,000
#43 Lewis Baker(SS)-2009 $295,000
#78 John Booker(OT/OG)-2009 $295,000
#48 Lance Brandenburgh(OLB)-2009 $295,000
#41 D.J. Parker(FS)-2009 $295,000
#50 Shaun Richardson(OLB)-2009 $295,000
#2 Ricky Schmitt(P)-2009 $295,000
#67 Kentwan Balmer(DE/DT) $0
#62 Chilo Rachal(OG/OT) $0
#31 Reggie Smith(CB/FS) $0
#65 Cody Wallace(OC) $0
#84 Josh Morgan(WR/RS) $0
#57 Larry Grant(MLB/OLB) $0

CAP TOTALS:
Cap Total:
$113,448,824
Dead Money:
$3,732,320
Cap Room:
$10,493,879
Top 51 Rule:
$109,554,504
Vested Vet Rule:
$695,000
Workout Bonuses:
$423,360

DEAD MONEY:
Derek Smith $2,001,668
Kwame Harris $1,088,509
Brandon Williams $337,500
Bryan Gilmore $105,000
Trent Dilfer $93,750
Thomas Clayton $72,375
Vickiel Vaughn $16,768
Patrick Estes $9,750
Luke Getsy $2,250
Sammy Joseph $2,250
Zac Herold $2,000
Zach Anderson $500


NOTE: I know people are gonna ask, why is Strickland making 7.8M, well thats cause of the phony clause in his deal, which will gain the 49ers 7M in 2009 for the salary cap.

so what is it that he has to do to get that money?

Originally posted by mike9er:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:
San Francisco 49ers: 2008 Season
Player: Salary:
#11 Alex Smith(QB)-2010 $11,186,200
#30 Donald Strickland(CB)-2008 $7,800,000
#75 Jonas Jennings(LT/RT)-2011 $5,842,000
#22 Nate Clements(CB/PR)-2013 $5,500,000
#21 Frank Gore(RB)-2011 $4,795,000
#52 Patrick Willis(MLB)-2012/2011 $4,075,000
#32 Michael Lewis(SS)-2012 $4,005,000
#36 Shawntae Spencer(CB)-2012 $3,698,800
#88 Isaac Bruce(WR)-2009 $3,500,000
#85 Vernon Davis(TE)-2010 $3,340,000
#95 Tully Banta-Cain(OLB)-2009 $3,266,666
#94 Justin Smith(DE/OLB)-2013 $3,083,333
#53 Jeff Ulbrich(MLB)-2009 $2,275,000
#18 Ashley Lelie(WR)-2008 $2,100,000
#83 Arnaz Battle(WR/PR)-2009 $2,070,000
#27 Walt Harris(CB)-2009 $2,066,666
#82 Bryant Johnson(WR)-2008 $2,000,000
#29 DeShaun Foster(RB)-2008 $1,900,000
#66 Eric Heitmann(OC)-2008 $1,890,000
#90 Isaac Sopoaga(DT/DE)-2012 $1,855,000
#68 Adam Snyder(LG/LT)-2011 $1,800,000
#92 Aubrayo Franklin(DT/DE)-2009 $1,733,333
#13 Shaun Hill(QB)-2010 $1,700,000
#99 Manny Lawson(OLB)-2010 $1,690,000
#6 Joe Nedney(PK/KOS)-2009 $1,630,000
#56 Brandon Moore(MLB/DE)-2010 $1,570,000
#26 Mark Roman(FS)-2009 $1,325,000
#74 Joe Staley(RT/LT)-2011 $1,220,000
#64 David Baas(RG/OC)-2009 $1,158,125
#44 Moran Norris(FB)-2009 $1,045,000
#28 Keith Lewis(SS/FS)-2009 $1,041,666
#4 Andy Lee(P/H)-2012 $991,666
#47 Billy Bajema(TE)-RFA $927,000
#86 Brian Jennings(LS/TE)-2009 $913,333
#20 Allen Rossum(CB/RS)-2008 $870,000
#51 Dontarrious Thomas(MLB)-2009 $866,720
#24 Michael Robinson(RB/FB/KR)-2012 $802,812
#69 Tony Wragge(C/LG)-2008 $697,220
#14 J.T. O'Sullivan (QB)-2008 $645,000
#54 Roderick Green(OLB/DE)-2008 $615,000
#93 Ronald Fields(DE/DT)-2008 $567,250
#89 Jason Hill(WR)-2010 $558,454
#63 Damane Duckett(RT/LT)-2008 $520,000
#78 Atiyyah Ellison(DE/DT)-2008 $520,000
#61 Qasim Mitchell(OG/OT)-2008 $520,000
#77 Jeb Terry(OG)-2008 $520,000
#91 Ray McDonald(DE/DT)-2010 $518,125
#98 Parys Haralson(OLB)-2009 $489,000
#38 Dashon Goldson(FS/CB)-2010 $473,219
#46 Delanie Walker(TE)-2009 $470,500
#23 Marcus Hudson(CB/FS)-2009 $466,666
#96 Melvin Oliver(DE)-2009 $466,320
#45 Zak Keasey(FB)-2008 $445,000
#55 Dennis Haley(MLB/OLB)-2009 $445,000
#58 Jay Moore(OLB)-2010 $415,000
#25 Tarell Brown(CB)-2010 $414,250
#67 Joe Cohen(DT/DE)-2010 $388,250
#40 Markus Curry(CB)-2009 $370,000
#48 Cooper Wallace(TE)-2009 $370,000
#60 Walter Curry(DT/DE)-2009 $301,250
#19 Jerard Rabb(WR)-2009 $295,000
#17 Dominique Zeigler(WR)-2009 $295,000
#33 Thomas Clayton(RB)-2009 $295,000
#7 Drew Olson(QB)-2008 $295,000
#59 Ezra Butler(MLB/OLB)-2009 $295,000
#81 Cam Colvin(WR)-2009 $295,000
#15 Robert Jordan(WR)-2009 $295,000
#60 Brian De La Puente(OG)-2009 $295,000
#49 Joe Jon Finley(TE)-2009 $295,000
#62 Louis Holmes(DE/OLB)-2009 $295,000
#43 Lewis Baker(SS)-2009 $295,000
#78 John Booker(OT/OG)-2009 $295,000
#48 Lance Brandenburgh(OLB)-2009 $295,000
#41 D.J. Parker(FS)-2009 $295,000
#50 Shaun Richardson(OLB)-2009 $295,000
#2 Ricky Schmitt(P)-2009 $295,000
#67 Kentwan Balmer(DE/DT) $0
#62 Chilo Rachal(OG/OT) $0
#31 Reggie Smith(CB/FS) $0
#65 Cody Wallace(OC) $0
#84 Josh Morgan(WR/RS) $0
#57 Larry Grant(MLB/OLB) $0

CAP TOTALS:
Cap Total:
$113,448,824
Dead Money:
$3,732,320
Cap Room:
$10,493,879
Top 51 Rule:
$109,554,504
Vested Vet Rule:
$695,000
Workout Bonuses:
$423,360

DEAD MONEY:
Derek Smith $2,001,668
Kwame Harris $1,088,509
Brandon Williams $337,500
Bryan Gilmore $105,000
Trent Dilfer $93,750
Thomas Clayton $72,375
Vickiel Vaughn $16,768
Patrick Estes $9,750
Luke Getsy $2,250
Sammy Joseph $2,250
Zac Herold $2,000
Zach Anderson $500


NOTE: I know people are gonna ask, why is Strickland making 7.8M, well thats cause of the phony clause in his deal, which will gain the 49ers 7M in 2009 for the salary cap.

so what is it that he has to do to get that money?

I think thats the contract where he has to block 15 punts or FG attempts....something like that. No way that happens, but if he does, he is worth the money IMO.

HELP! I need to know where to buy an authentic 80's Wilson jersey of Montana or Lott in white sz 44 preferably. I will pay good money.

Strickland's cap friendly contract which benefits the club in 2009, is why he is going to make the Final 53 roster. I just hope that the club doesn't have to cut an up-and-comer like Hudson or Brown, to make room for Strickland. That's why I was hoping that the club would put Brown on PUP today (July 24), based on his Game 16 injury last year, so that they could keep both Hudson and Strickland, and then have Brown waiting in the wings after Game 6, when/if the club incurred an early-season, CB injury. If a player is not "PUP'd" at the outset of TC, it can't be done later. After today, it becomes a game of make the club, or lose a full year on IR, or be released. Those are the only choices, after the PUP window closes.

Originally posted by jimbagg:
Strickland's cap friendly contract which benefits the club in 2009, is why he is going to make the Final 53 roster. I just hope that the club doesn't have to cut an up-and-comer like Hudson or Brown, to make room for Strickland. That's why I was hoping that the club would put Brown on PUP today (July 24), based on his Game 16 injury last year, so that they could keep both Hudson and Strickland, and then have Brown waiting in the wings after Game 6, when/if the club incurred an early-season, CB injury. If a player is not "PUP'd" at the outset of TC, it can't be done later. After today, it becomes a game of make the club, or lose a full year on IR, or be released. Those are the only choices, after the PUP window closes.

I rather just cut Spencer to be quite honest. Reggie Smith replaces Spencer.

CB: Clements/Strickland/Hudson
CB: Harris/Smith/Brown

updated as of July 29th, includes numbers for the top 4 picks in the draft for us, along with Wright, Ortiz and Barry Sims have been added.

Originally posted by dmbgeek87:

Originally posted by jimbagg:
Strickland's cap friendly contract which benefits the club in 2009, is why he is going to make the Final 53 roster. I just hope that the club doesn't have to cut an up-and-comer like Hudson or Brown, to make room for Strickland. That's why I was hoping that the club would put Brown on PUP today (July 24), based on his Game 16 injury last year, so that they could keep both Hudson and Strickland, and then have Brown waiting in the wings after Game 6, when/if the club incurred an early-season, CB injury. If a player is not "PUP'd" at the outset of TC, it can't be done later. After today, it becomes a game of make the club, or lose a full year on IR, or be released. Those are the only choices, after the PUP window closes.

I rather just cut Spencer to be quite honest. Reggie Smith replaces Spencer.

CB: Clements/Strickland/Hudson
CB: Harris/Smith/Brown

based on last seasons performance i would be just as happy with spencer starting rather than Harris... watching Harris' lazy performance against the saints made me wanna puke, its not that he had a "bad" game, he was really playing LAZY... I dont see where all the hate for spencer comes from. he's a good backup and a descent starter. Harris had one really good game and the rest were ok to subpar. And i just dont think we'll ever see a repeat of his 06 season.

#46 Delanie Walker(TE)-2009 $470,500

i thought he got an extension