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Originally posted by Niners99:
Clark never blocks, and VD has been a lazy and inconsistent blocker since he came out of his offensive shell.

so its a wash imo with the blocking.

Clark has better hands, better discipline.

VD has more raw physical talent.

honestly if VD was on the Colts, hed outproduce Clark with ease, but he isnt, and Clark has Manning, so Clark wins.

based on their situations and talents, Clark deserved the all-pro. he was almost as offensively proficient as Davis, and he didnt lead the league in drops like VD, or in penalties like VD.

This. The big things are the drops and the penalties. Davis' skills are a blessing but his penalties can also be a drive killer. He needs to tighten up the discipline. Until he Does Clark > Davis overall but it is tight.
Originally posted by ads_2006:
clark has manning for a qb

davis has smith/dilfer/hill

dont forget JTO
[ Edited by momoney925 on Jan 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM ]
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Peyton Manning made Dallas Clark, he has good hands and gets YAC...
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Vernon Davis doesnt having Peyton Manning at QB...And Vernons one of the best if not the best blocking TEs in the league...Hes faster, stronger, more explosive, etc..

Would you really take Dallas Clark over Vernon Davis?
It helps to have Manning as a qb, him and Dallas have great chemistry. So I'm looking forward to seeing what Smith/Davis can do with an entire offseason, because Davis was a big target for him once he got the starting job.
Eh, you can make an argument either way. It really depends on the offense you're going to run.

For our offense, Davis is a better fit than Clark. Clark is a WR more than he is a TE.

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Because he is the better all-around TE. Is this even a debate?

Davis can makes plays with bad-to-average QBs. Clark has done what he should do with a hall of fame QB. And Clark certainly does not have game changing speed or open field ability.

Davis also dominates in the blocking game. I'm not even sure Clark lines up to block.

This whole Clark is better than Davis thing seems pretty silly. You had a case three years ago. Not anymore.
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Nothing wrong with having confidence in your abilities, but Davis has only shown what he can do for one season.

November 1, 2009: Colts-18 49ers-14

V. Davis: 3 catches for 20 yards and 1 touchdown.
D. Clark: 8 catches for 99 yards and 0 touchdown.


We report. You decide.

Dallas Clark still has more Super Bowl rings than V.D., so when he helps lead the Niners to a Super Bowl against the Colts, he can have a reason to talk smack.
[ Edited by Ohio49er on Jan 31, 2010 at 10:03 AM ]
Originally posted by Ohio49er:
Nothing wrong with having confidence in your abilities, but Davis has only shown what he can do for one season.

November 1, 2009: Colts-18 49ers-14

V. Davis: 3 catches for 20 yards and 1 touchdown.
D. Clark: 8 catches for 99 yards and 0 touchdown.


We report. You decide.

Dallas Clark still has more Super Bowl rings than V.D., so when he helps lead the Niners to a Super Bowl against the Colts, he can have a reason to talk smack.


Dallas Clark plays like a receiver. Vernon Davis plays like a tight end.

To each his own. Considering this is a passing football league I'm gladly looking past Clark's blocking and seeing that he has better hands then Davis, is more polished than Davis, is a superior route runner than Davis, and gets more RAC than Davis.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
http://www.sacbee.com/sports/story/2502427.html

Seriously dude? He thinks his all around game is better than Dallas Clark? Honestly I think Clark is the best TE in the game. I like how Vern has gotten better, and he's not a cancerous player anymore, but part of me really wonders how much he's really matured. You don't go out and say that IMO, that your all around game is way better than a guy who is an integral part of a super bowl team and his stats are just as good if not better than yours. This isn't the first time he's said something either...

Tight ends should be seen and not heard.... somebody should tell Vernon that nobody gives a damn about tight ends. Vernon and his lack of humility is what is wrong with sports today. The guy will never help you win a championship. We will never, ever win with this guy on the roster. He is all about himself. His BS agreement with Smith to throw him that garbage TD against the Lions was abominable. Replace him Walker and nobody cares.

Dallas Clark is a better football player and has more class.
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Davis on the Colts > Clark on the Colts
Stats speak louder then words and Clarks resume is longer at this moment then Davis, but time can only tell. I personally think Davis is a better all round Tight end due to the nature of the position but Clark has already proven himself year after year on what he can do, so I wouldnt use him as a steping stone. V. Davis has a great oppertunity in front of him but like alot of players out there, but what you say now can and will come back to bit you in the future.
To me a Tight end must be a good blocker, that is the job of a TE, and Davis has already proven he is ellite blocker. Now the passing game Davis is the scarest I"ve seen in a long time but with only one minor, fixable, flaw and that is "the dropping of pigskin". Just like everyone else who plays the game, you work hard to accomplish your goals and get better, and Davis will.
The thing that sticks out to me on why Davis didnt make All-Pro team is because of of Clarks Resume and nothing more. Clark puts up very good stats year after year and alot of people believe that is more deserving then anothers mans first break out season. Now I can see why they would choose Clark but the turth of the matter is that Davis can block a lot better and guess what, he can make plays too down the field... So All Pro team shouldve went to Davis and not Clark... hands down.
[ Edited by Constantine on Feb 28, 2010 at 10:17 PM ]
Originally posted by Chief:
Davis on the Colts > Clark on the Colts

I doubt Vernon has the intelligence to play on the Colts. Let's face it the guy's a lost puppy out there sometimes.
Back your team bro.
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