Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
You guys can laugh or facepalm me all you want. Wont change my opinion.
If you want, I can list regular statistics, advanced statistics and other bits of information that can back my opinion. I am willing to do so, if you are willing to read them objectively. If not, I wont waste my time.
Ok, whatcha got?
Honestly, I feel its people who think Rose is a deserving MVP should be the ones explaining themselves rather than the other way around. Because there honestly isnt one piece of measurable/statistical evidence that shows that he is worthy.
Alright here we go.
Lets start with basic statistics:
-7th in the NBA in scoring
-10th in the NBA in assists
-42nd in the NBA in assist/turnover ratio (a truly disgusting statistic for a point guard and leader of an offense)
-25th among NBA guards in field goal percentage
-16th among NBA guards in free throw percentage
-52nd in the NBA in steals
Do any of those numbers scream MVP to you guys? They sure dont to me.
What about advanced stats?
-Rose was 9th in the NBA in PER. Only twice in the past decade has there been an MVP that finished worse than 5th in PER, both of which were highly questionable MVP winners.
-Rose was 6th in the NBA in Estimated Wins added. 6th on that isnt exactly high for someone who is supposed to be the most valuable player in the entire league.
-The Bulls only averaged 1.49 points less per 100 possessions with Derrick Rose sitting on the bench than they did with him on the court. Let that stat marinate for a minute. 1.49 points per 100 possessions is the effect that Derrick Rose has on the Bulls. Statistically, the Bulls outscore their opponents by 6.78 points per 100 possessions with Rose on the bench. If you were to expand that statistic, it translates to a 55 win team.
(Just for a point of comparison, you know how many less points per 100 possessions the Heat were with Lebron on the bench? How about 10.49 points worse. An what about the Mavericks with Dirk on the bench? Try 16.68 points per 100 possessions worse. Dwight and the Magic? 8.68 points per 100 possessions.)
-Aside from free throw percentage, Rose was worse in every measurable statistic in clutch time (4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, with neither team leading by more than 5 points), than he was in non clutch time.
Honestly, I could keep going. The Bulls #1 ranked defense (something Rose has very little to do with) is the reason for the Bulls success last year. Rose was unquestionably the driving force behind the Bulls offense though.....an offense that was good enough to be ranked 21st in the NBA. To me, there is so little evidence that Rose deserves the award, its almost comical. There is nothing that shows he was a more valuable player in 2011 than Lebron, Dwight, Dirk, Paul, etc. Rose won the award because of a compelling narrative, an nothing more.
Im done. Comment away.....