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Originally posted by SF69ers:
LOL, Ray Fatto not liking the Barnes pick.

Makes me like it even more. Ratto is a dunce.
Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:
A small forward and a big man, the players were wrong, but the idea was right. I think Barnes definitely fits in nicely with what we have assembled. His offense should be doubly aided by Klay and Steph as shooters and by Lee and Bogut as passing big men. His mid range game should flourish off of spacing alone.

However, the quality most needed as always is Defense and if he can bring it on that end he could immediately be our best two-play player, save Bogut. Perhaps Richard Jefferson can play Player/Coach and mentor the kid to justify his absurb contract.

I'm concerned about his lack of ability as a ball handler, but I suppose that just deepens the need for Curry to step up as the Point Guard that the team hopes he becomes sans Monta. I still want to bring in Jason Kidd, but I'm sentimental that way.

SO when you say the players were wrong tell us what 2 players you would have selected instead that would be better fits? Very curious.
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Seen that lol

fatass is never happy

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Makes me like it even more. Ratto is a dunce.

It was obvious that he wanted Drummond because it gives Fatto more things to write about if Drummond busts. That guy is all negative, ALL THE TIME.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
We still have a bunch of young players that have lots of room for development. For all we know, Barnes could turn around and become a legitimate NBA star in the future. If you look at teams like Indiana, Memphis, and Philly, I don't feel like they have superstars on their teams, but they made it to the playoffs and competed well because of the pieces that they had mixed in with the right coaching. I feel like we've got excellent pieces on this squad to get to the playoffs and compete.

Thats what I mean about the gap in talent though. Every one of those teams got bounced from the playoffs and really wasn't in a position to compete for the championship in reality.
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
We still have a bunch of young players that have lots of room for development. For all we know, Barnes could turn around and become a legitimate NBA star in the future. If you look at teams like Indiana, Memphis, and Philly, I don't feel like they have superstars on their teams, but they made it to the playoffs and competed well because of the pieces that they had mixed in with the right coaching. I feel like we've got excellent pieces on this squad to get to the playoffs and compete.

Thats what I mean about the gap in talent though. Every one of those teams got bounced from the playoffs and really wasn't in a position to compete for the championship in reality.

Philly lost to Boston in 7. Indiana lost to Miami in 6. Memphis lost to the Clipps in 7. They competed well against teams with superstars.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
We still have a bunch of young players that have lots of room for development. For all we know, Barnes could turn around and become a legitimate NBA star in the future. If you look at teams like Indiana, Memphis, and Philly, I don't feel like they have superstars on their teams, but they made it to the playoffs and competed well because of the pieces that they had mixed in with the right coaching. I feel like we've got excellent pieces on this squad to get to the playoffs and compete.

Thats what I mean about the gap in talent though. Every one of those teams got bounced from the playoffs and really wasn't in a position to compete for the championship in reality.

Philly lost to Boston in 7. Indiana lost to Miami in 6. Memphis lost to the Clipps in 7. They competed well against teams with superstars.

And what's next for them? What can they do to take that next step to pass those teams? I don't see it happening.
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
We still have a bunch of young players that have lots of room for development. For all we know, Barnes could turn around and become a legitimate NBA star in the future. If you look at teams like Indiana, Memphis, and Philly, I don't feel like they have superstars on their teams, but they made it to the playoffs and competed well because of the pieces that they had mixed in with the right coaching. I feel like we've got excellent pieces on this squad to get to the playoffs and compete.

Thats what I mean about the gap in talent though. Every one of those teams got bounced from the playoffs and really wasn't in a position to compete for the championship in reality.

Philly lost to Boston in 7. Indiana lost to Miami in 6. Memphis lost to the Clipps in 7. They competed well against teams with superstars.

And what's next for them? What can they do to take that next step to pass those teams? I don't see it happening.

One thing that I see in common with those three teams are their well rounded defenses. They have players that can defend multiple positions. They could probably use another scorer for their respective teams. Maybe if Evan Turner starts living up to his loft expectations and start becoming a more consistent scorer. Paul George is quickly becoming a rising star in this league and he may become more of a threat on the offensive end.
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Lets look at the Monta trade now..

The trade was really Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh
for Andrew Bogut, Stephen Jackson

We wouldnt have gotten the #7 pick if we didn't make that trade, so I'd add Barnes to what we got
We traded Jackson for Jefferson and pick 30, with that pick we got Festes Ezeli

Monte Ellis, Ekpe Udoh for Andrew Bogut, Richard Jefferson, Harrison barnes, Festes Ezeli

Looks like a great trade to me
There was many people in here that didnt like the trade, I liked it since the first time I heard of it
[ Edited by ImaMod on Jun 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM ]
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Originally posted by ImaMod:
Lets look at the Monta trade now..

The trade was really Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh
for Andrew Bogut, Stephen Jackson

We wouldnt have gotten the #7 pick if we didn't make that trade, so I'd add Barnes to what we got
We traded Jackson for Jefferson and pick 30, with that pick we got Festes Ezeli

Monte Ellis, Ekpe Udoh for Andrew Bogut, Richard Jefferson, Harrison barnes, Festes Ezeli

Looks like a great trade to me
There was many people in here that didnt like the trade, I liked it since the first time I heard of it

wont looks so good when you guys win 30 game next year, lol
HB is keeping #40
[ Edited by DaDivaRecieva15 on Jun 29, 2012 at 10:32 AM ]
http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-nba-draft-grades
On Monta Ellis related news, Milwaukee is looking to engage in talks for a contract extension.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
LOL, Ray Fatto not liking the Barnes pick.

Makes me like it even more. Ratto is a dunce.

He picked the Raiders to have a much better '12 season than us...
Originally posted by SF69ers:
One thing that I see in common with those three teams are their well rounded defenses. They have players that can defend multiple positions. They could probably use another scorer for their respective teams. Maybe if Evan Turner starts living up to his loft expectations and start becoming a more consistent scorer. Paul George is quickly becoming a rising star in this league and he may become more of a threat on the offensive end.

I just don't view Basketball in the same way that I do Baseball or Football when it comes to building a team.

When you only have 5 players on the court, adding several good ones isn't enough. In baseball or football if you have good to very good players at pretty much every position, you will be extremely good because its hard for most teams to fill every spot with a good player.

Imo when it comes to basketball, you have to continually swing for the fences until you land a superstar. I'm not hating the Barnes pick because I think he MIGHT have the chance to be a superstar with his great shot and amazing work ethic as Pete has noted. However, Drummond is still very tempting. If he busts? So what, we suck again and go back to the top of the draft and look for a superstar again.

If you look at the NBA champions for the last decade+ every team has a superstar. Often times its the same teams, but the point still stands, you need someone who can completely dominate/take over the game.
[ Edited by IdentityCrisis on Jun 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM ]
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