There are 86 users in the forums

Remember
Not a member? Register Now!

Qatar beats out USA to host 2022 World Cup

I have nothing against Qatar, I've lived in the Middle East and am thinking about moving to the UAE, Bahrain, or Qatar in a year and half, I just don't get how 14 air conditioned stadium is good for 1 city. Its more of a waste than the Olympics in Salt Lake City. Once the event is gone you are just left with empty venues.

The royal family probably doesn't mind the price tag, but I also lived in Japan during the Japan-Korea world cup and part of the fun is fans moving from one city to the next to follow their team. Having all 32 teams and fans in 1 place just seems like it takes away some of the spirit of the tournament. I guess it will all work out though.
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by ninerlifer:
So what if the stadiums will be air conditioned? What do they propose to do for masses of fans coming in to watch it? Make air conditioned bubbles for them to walk around in?

Just a poor decision on FIFA's part.

Qatar has hosted a FIFA WC before, just not the big tamale

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_FIFA_World_Youth_Championship

http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive/tournament=104/edition=191263/overview.html

they will do just fine

are you aware that hosting a youth world cup in no f**king way compares to the REAL world cup?
Originally posted by 1251alex:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by ninerlifer:
So what if the stadiums will be air conditioned? What do they propose to do for masses of fans coming in to watch it? Make air conditioned bubbles for them to walk around in?

Just a poor decision on FIFA's part.

Qatar has hosted a FIFA WC before, just not the big tamale

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_FIFA_World_Youth_Championship

http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive/tournament=104/edition=191263/overview.html

they will do just fine

are you aware that hosting a youth world cup in no f**king way compares to the REAL world cup?

are you aware that I made a reference to that?
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by 1251alex:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by ninerlifer:
So what if the stadiums will be air conditioned? What do they propose to do for masses of fans coming in to watch it? Make air conditioned bubbles for them to walk around in?

Just a poor decision on FIFA's part.

Qatar has hosted a FIFA WC before, just not the big tamale

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_FIFA_World_Youth_Championship

http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive/tournament=104/edition=191263/overview.html

they will do just fine

are you aware that hosting a youth world cup in no f**king way compares to the REAL world cup?

are you aware that I made a reference to that?

you're suggesting that because Qatar had some success hosting some small scale WC that they will also do so with the real thing.

but anyways, we shall see.


but do you really believe hosting the WC in Qatar helps the game? And if so, how?

Having a country that small host a WC is just f**king stupid. But heres to hoping I eat crow.
Originally posted by 1251alex:


but do you really believe hosting the WC in Qatar helps the game? And if so, how?


This! More than anything that's been said in this thread!!!


Qatar won this bid because somebody is getting paid. Whether it's FIFA as a whole, or an individual or select few, this is about money.
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 1251alex:


but do you really believe hosting the WC in Qatar helps the game? And if so, how?


This! More than anything that's been said in this thread!!!


Qatar won this bid because somebody is getting paid. Whether it's FIFA as a whole, or an individual or select few, this is about money.

yup, whoever voted for Qatar got paid. theres no other reason why you would choose Qatar over the U.S. or a joint bid by Spain and Portugal. I'm not gonna lie, hearing about the world cups being in Russia and Qatar in no way is building up excitement in me. Even South Africa managed to do that for me. Hopefully my views change by then though.

I think anybody defending Qatar's selection obviously has a special interest. "If they can do it, so can we." type of argument.
Originally posted by 1251alex:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 1251alex:


but do you really believe hosting the WC in Qatar helps the game? And if so, how?


This! More than anything that's been said in this thread!!!


Qatar won this bid because somebody is getting paid. Whether it's FIFA as a whole, or an individual or select few, this is about money.

yup, whoever voted for Qatar got paid. theres no other reason why you would choose Qatar over the U.S. or a joint bid by Spain and Portugal. I'm not gonna lie, hearing about the world cups being in Russia and Qatar in no way is building up excitement in me. Even South Africa managed to do that for me. Hopefully my views change by then though.

I think anybody defending Qatar's selection obviously has a special interest. "If they can do it, so can we." type of argument.

it almost seems people are being too traditionalistic and afraid of change, look I'm not gonna go into the argument of "qatar bought it" because I hate politics and choose to not see s**t that way so let me get down to why Qatar CAN host this event.

They've hosted big time events before, nothing like this, but that's good leverage to get a bid. Say what you want about the U-20 WC being small time, but it's still a big deal in the soccer world and for FIFA, they don't just hand out this event to any country because they don't care. No, they CARE, and Qatar delivered back in '95 (I watched this at 9 years old and remember it well since Argentina won, go look at that team it was LOADED). Ditto with the Asian games, much more recently in '06, according to that wiki link provided at the end of page 4 (and yes it's wiki, so take it with a grain of salt) 5 different venues were used for soccer games. Were they all in the same city? I don't know, I just woke up so I'm not doing all that research, but that seems to show me they didn't cram all the games in one field like some may want to believe (and this isn't necessarily directed at the zone, other folks have been spitting nonsense around me)

Were the events perfect? No, were they successful? IMO yes. Can Qatar delivered TWELVE YEARS from now? Yes I believe they will get those stadiums built. I believe they are also aware of the needs for practice fields, everyone talks about how the US presentation was so flawless and perfect well Qatar's must have been pretty good too.

Now, does it HELP the game? Not sure what you're asking here, not sure how much help soccer needs being the most popular game in the world

Having a small country host the WC isn't "f**king stupid", this is THE most diverse sport in the world, if we had this mindset the games would only go to USA and European countries and other selected nations of the world. No, if Qatar can put out a bombass plan and get the bid then I'm all for it, go back to Asia, it helps THEIR soccer.
good. The World Cup, like the Olympics, is usually majorly bad news in the long run for whatever cities host it. Let the WC go to some other country and screw up its economy.
Originally posted by HessianDud:
good. The World Cup, like the Olympics, is usually majorly bad news in the long run for whatever cities host it. Let the WC go to some other country and screw up its economy.

http://www.gobankingrates.com/did-losing-world-cup-hurt-us-economy/
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
good. The World Cup, like the Olympics, is usually majorly bad news in the long run for whatever cities host it. Let the WC go to some other country and screw up its economy.

http://www.gobankingrates.com/did-losing-world-cup-hurt-us-economy/

Whats your opinion on Qatar's strict alcohol laws?

Seems like its going to create a lot of friction among sports fans
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
good. The World Cup, like the Olympics, is usually majorly bad news in the long run for whatever cities host it. Let the WC go to some other country and screw up its economy.

http://www.gobankingrates.com/did-losing-world-cup-hurt-us-economy/

Whats your opinion on Qatar's strict alcohol laws?

Seems like its going to create a lot of friction among sports fans

gotta be honest I did not know about this until someone mentioned earlier and haven't really read up on it so I'll get back to you on that
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
good. The World Cup, like the Olympics, is usually majorly bad news in the long run for whatever cities host it. Let the WC go to some other country and screw up its economy.

http://www.gobankingrates.com/did-losing-world-cup-hurt-us-economy/

Whats your opinion on Qatar's strict alcohol laws?

Seems like its going to create a lot of friction among sports fans

non-alcoholic root beer?

-9fA

[ Edited by 9erfanAUS on Dec 5, 2010 at 09:49:32 ]
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
good. The World Cup, like the Olympics, is usually majorly bad news in the long run for whatever cities host it. Let the WC go to some other country and screw up its economy.

http://www.gobankingrates.com/did-losing-world-cup-hurt-us-economy/

the US would be hurt less than some other countries--like, say, South Africa--by hosting the World Cup, and it would certainly do some good things for the economy. but hosting those events isn't always the economic boon that it is made out to be.

I do think it would have been cool if the WC were here, so I shouldn't make it sound like I'm "happy" that it isn't. but my feeling about it is kind of like the feeling i have about chicago not getting the olympics: its kind of like dodging a bullet.
I wish the 49ers get the new stadium by next voting. lol
Originally posted by global_nomad:
I have nothing against Qatar, I've lived in the Middle East and am thinking about moving to the UAE, Bahrain, or Qatar in a year and half, I just don't get how 14 air conditioned stadium is good for 1 city. Its more of a waste than the Olympics in Salt Lake City. Once the event is gone you are just left with empty venues.

The royal family probably doesn't mind the price tag, but I also lived in Japan during the Japan-Korea world cup and part of the fun is fans moving from one city to the next to follow their team. Having all 32 teams and fans in 1 place just seems like it takes away some of the spirit of the tournament. I guess it will all work out though.

Holy s**t you really are a global nomad.