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Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by NinerFanMT:
Oh and I find it funny that you mention how injury prone Okur is when the fewest games he's played in a season at Utah is 72.

Are you trying to tell me he's not injury prone?

When he's missed 13 of the last 15 Jazz playoff games?

9 of which happened last year when he tore his achilles in game 1 against Denver when he already had a slight tear in it, but he played anyways b/c he knew the team needed him. Unlike Boozer who decided to sit out of a pivotal game against the Suns in the last game of the season that would've gave us the #3 seed and out of the Lakers bracket until the Conference Finals but the strain oblique was too much for him to play through. He's soft and he's injury prone, and now Chicago has to suffer through it.
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by NinerFanMT:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by NinerFanMT:
Originally posted by jrg:
Boozer Breaks Right Hand

Chicago Bulls forward Carlos Boozer sustained a fracture of his right hand (5th metacarpal) on October 2, 2010. He was evaluated by team physician Dr. Brian Cole and hand specialist Dr. Marc Cohen of Midwest Orthopaedics at Rush.

The fracture will require surgery and Carlos will likely be out 8 weeks.



Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69397/20101003/boozer_breaks_right_hand/#ixzz11LytTYgt

I'm so glad Chicago has got that injury proned s.o.b now.


Says the guy who roots for the Jazz, who have Kirilenko and Okur. And Al Jefferson has also missed significant time with injury in the past two years.

The difference between those guys and Boozer is that they started off as being soft but decided to tough out injuries the longer they've been there. Boozer would have a hangnail and miss 5 games. As for Jefferson he missed 6 games last year thats not significant so I dunno why you're talking about last year when 2 years ago is when he got seriously hurt and only played 50 games.

Boozer meanwhile played 51 games his 1st year, 33 in year 2, 74 in year 3, 81 in year 4, 37 in year 5, and 78 last year. I think I have all the right in the world to criticize the 2nd best player on our team the last 6 years for being soft and injury prone.


Are you sure that you're not being bitter now that he's gone?

Sure Boozer missed some regular season games, but he was always healthy when it mattered (the playoffs), and he dominated for Utah (career 20.3/12.5 in 44 playoff games). I can't say the same for Ak-47 or Okur.

If you ever looked around in the Jazz thread you woulda saw that I wanted him gone. He's too short and got owned by LA's post players the last few years so I'm not bitter at all b/c he didn't make our team anymore of a championship contender then Jefferson does now. At least Jefferson is a couple inches taller.
I lol'd at Boozer Dominated.
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I lol'd at Boozer Dominated.

Umm did he play all of those playoff games against the Lakers, lol.

No he did not.
[ Edited by crzy on Oct 4, 2010 at 10:09 AM ]
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I lol'd at Boozer Dominated.

Umm did he play all of those playoff games against the Lakers, lol.

No he did not.

So then he dominated, just not when it counted and his team got eliminated. I hope my big men don't dominate like that.
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I lol'd at Boozer Dominated.

Umm did he play all of those playoff games against the Lakers, lol.

No he did not.

So then he dominated, just not when it counted and his team got eliminated. I hope my big men don't dominate like that.

Don't be ridiculous.

Just this season he averaged 22.5/15 against the Nuggets in 6 games, including a 22 point, 20 rebound performance in the clinching Game 6. Absolutely DOMINATED Yao Ming in the 2007 playoffs. It was sad trying to watch Yao guard Boozer. Then he annihilated the Warriors frontcourt in 2007, then he put up a great effort against Duncan and the Spurs in the next series.

Carlos Boozer isn't the reason the Jazz lost against the Lakers. Boozer averaged 17/13 in the last 15 playoff games against the Lakers.

Teams win playoff series. Teams. Not players. What exactly did Pau Gasol accomplish in Memphis before he came to the Lakers? Nothing.

It's obvious that Jazz fans are only speaking ill of him because he's now gone.


Al Jefferson? Please. Al Jefferson isn't even remotely on the same level as Boozer.
[ Edited by crzy on Oct 4, 2010 at 10:28 AM ]
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Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I lol'd at Boozer Dominated.

Umm did he play all of those playoff games against the Lakers, lol.

No he did not.

So then he dominated, just not when it counted and his team got eliminated. I hope my big men don't dominate like that.

Don't be ridiculous.

Just this season he averaged 22.5/15 against the Nuggets in 6 games, including a 22 point, 20 rebound performance in the clinching Game 6. Absolutely DOMINATED Yao Ming in the 2007 playoffs. It was sad trying to watch Yao guard Boozer. Then he annihilated the Warriors frontcourt in 2007, then he put up a great effort against Duncan and the Spurs in the next series.

Carlos Boozer isn't the reason the Jazz lost against the Lakers. Boozer averaged 17/13 in the last 15 playoff games against the Lakers.

Teams win playoff series. Teams. Not players. What exactly did Pau Gasol accomplish in Memphis before he came to the Lakers? Nothing.

It's obvious that Jazz fans are only speaking ill of him because he's now gone.


Al Jefferson? Please. Al Jefferson isn't even remotely on the same level as Boozer.

Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by crzy:
Al Jefferson? Please. Al Jefferson isn't even remotely on the same level as Boozer.


Yeah, Jefferson & Boozer seem like pretty much the same guy to me.
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by crzy:
Al Jefferson? Please. Al Jefferson isn't even remotely on the same level as Boozer.


Yeah, Jefferson & Boozer seem like pretty much the same guy to me.

This.
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Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I lol'd at Boozer Dominated.

Umm did he play all of those playoff games against the Lakers, lol.

No he did not.

So then he dominated, just not when it counted and his team got eliminated. I hope my big men don't dominate like that.

Don't be ridiculous.

Just this season he averaged 22.5/15 against the Nuggets in 6 games, including a 22 point, 20 rebound performance in the clinching Game 6. Absolutely DOMINATED Yao Ming in the 2007 playoffs. It was sad trying to watch Yao guard Boozer. Then he annihilated the Warriors frontcourt in 2007, then he put up a great effort against Duncan and the Spurs in the next series.

Carlos Boozer isn't the reason the Jazz lost against the Lakers. Boozer averaged 17/13 in the last 15 playoff games against the Lakers.

Teams win playoff series. Teams. Not players. What exactly did Pau Gasol accomplish in Memphis before he came to the Lakers? Nothing.

It's obvious that Jazz fans are only speaking ill of him because he's now gone.


Al Jefferson? Please. Al Jefferson isn't even remotely on the same level as Boozer.


Al Jefferson's teams have finished under 25 wins in each of the past 4 years.

Name another player in this league who is considered to be an All-Star level talent, who consistently leads his team to 60 losses per season like Al Jefferson does.

He is this era's Shareef Abdur Rahim
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I lol'd at Boozer Dominated.

Umm did he play all of those playoff games against the Lakers, lol.

No he did not.

So then he dominated, just not when it counted and his team got eliminated. I hope my big men don't dominate like that.

Don't be ridiculous.

Just this season he averaged 22.5/15 against the Nuggets in 6 games, including a 22 point, 20 rebound performance in the clinching Game 6. Absolutely DOMINATED Yao Ming in the 2007 playoffs. It was sad trying to watch Yao guard Boozer. Then he annihilated the Warriors frontcourt in 2007, then he put up a great effort against Duncan and the Spurs in the next series.

Carlos Boozer isn't the reason the Jazz lost against the Lakers. Boozer averaged 17/13 in the last 15 playoff games against the Lakers.

Teams win playoff series. Teams. Not players. What exactly did Pau Gasol accomplish in Memphis before he came to the Lakers? Nothing.

It's obvious that Jazz fans are only speaking ill of him because he's now gone.


Al Jefferson? Please. Al Jefferson isn't even remotely on the same level as Boozer.


Al Jefferson's teams have finished under 25 wins in each of the past 4 years.

Name another player in this league who is considered to be an All-Star level talent, who consistently leads his team to 60 losses per season like Al Jefferson does.

He is this era's Shareef Abdur Rahim

Doesn't that contradict this?

Quote:
Teams win playoff series. Teams. Not players. What exactly did Pau Gasol accomplish in Memphis before he came to the Lakers? Nothing.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think highly of Jefferson, but I don't think highly of Boozer either.
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I lol'd at Boozer Dominated.

Umm did he play all of those playoff games against the Lakers, lol.

No he did not.

So then he dominated, just not when it counted and his team got eliminated. I hope my big men don't dominate like that.

Don't be ridiculous.

Just this season he averaged 22.5/15 against the Nuggets in 6 games, including a 22 point, 20 rebound performance in the clinching Game 6. Absolutely DOMINATED Yao Ming in the 2007 playoffs. It was sad trying to watch Yao guard Boozer. Then he annihilated the Warriors frontcourt in 2007, then he put up a great effort against Duncan and the Spurs in the next series.

Carlos Boozer isn't the reason the Jazz lost against the Lakers. Boozer averaged 17/13 in the last 15 playoff games against the Lakers.

Teams win playoff series. Teams. Not players. What exactly did Pau Gasol accomplish in Memphis before he came to the Lakers? Nothing.

It's obvious that Jazz fans are only speaking ill of him because he's now gone.


Al Jefferson? Please. Al Jefferson isn't even remotely on the same level as Boozer.

lol Man I wish you would've actually visited Jazz forums over the past 6 years so you'd actually know what you were talking about. Fans have wanted him gone for a lot longer then this year b/c of his injuries. Also he may have averaged 17/13 against the Lakers but the majority of those points came through jumpshots b/c he couldn't do s**t in the post against the Lakers' players. He constantly got smothered by Odom, Gasol and Bynum. Booze may not have been the main reason we lost to the Lakers but being undersized sure as hell didn't help us any against them. At least Jefferson will offer us some more size down in the post even if he's not as talented as Boozer.
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Originally posted by NinerFanMT:
At least Jefferson will offer us some more size down in the post even if he's not as talented as Boozer.

Al Jefferson. 6'9.75" with shoes. 7'2.5" wingspan. 9'2" standing reach.
Carlos Boozer. 6'9.5" with shoes. 7'2.25" wingspan. 9'0.5" standing reach.

lol
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
I lol'd at Boozer Dominated.

Umm did he play all of those playoff games against the Lakers, lol.

No he did not.

So then he dominated, just not when it counted and his team got eliminated. I hope my big men don't dominate like that.

Don't be ridiculous.

Just this season he averaged 22.5/15 against the Nuggets in 6 games, including a 22 point, 20 rebound performance in the clinching Game 6. Absolutely DOMINATED Yao Ming in the 2007 playoffs. It was sad trying to watch Yao guard Boozer. Then he annihilated the Warriors frontcourt in 2007, then he put up a great effort against Duncan and the Spurs in the next series.

Carlos Boozer isn't the reason the Jazz lost against the Lakers. Boozer averaged 17/13 in the last 15 playoff games against the Lakers.

Teams win playoff series. Teams. Not players. What exactly did Pau Gasol accomplish in Memphis before he came to the Lakers? Nothing.

It's obvious that Jazz fans are only speaking ill of him because he's now gone.


Al Jefferson? Please. Al Jefferson isn't even remotely on the same level as Boozer.


Al Jefferson's teams have finished under 25 wins in each of the past 4 years.

Name another player in this league who is considered to be an All-Star level talent, who consistently leads his team to 60 losses per season like Al Jefferson does.

He is this era's Shareef Abdur Rahim

Doesn't that contradict this?

Quote:
Teams win playoff series. Teams. Not players. What exactly did Pau Gasol accomplish in Memphis before he came to the Lakers? Nothing.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think highly of Jefferson, but I don't think highly of Boozer either.

Seriously crzy you're gonna blame the TWolves' record on Jefferson? Who the hell else have they had on that team in recent years then him? No one that team is a mess and its ridiculous to call him out for the team's record when they didn't put hardly enough talent around him to make them even think of being a playoff contender.
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