Anybody here watch CSNCA's A's preview show earlier tonight.
Was out and didn't get a chance to see it?
It was only a half an hour show so I don't think it got too much into detail.
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Official 2010 Oakland A's Thread
Mar 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM
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Mar 14, 2010 at 6:42 PM
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Good day today.
Cahill and Maz with good outings.
Fox with a HR, good thing because he was in 1/19 slump.
Cahill and Maz with good outings.
Fox with a HR, good thing because he was in 1/19 slump.
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Mar 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM
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Maz had a good outing? Well I guess if you discount the 3 runs given up.
Mar 14, 2010 at 10:16 PM
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He's pitched a couple of scoreless innings and did give up an run when he was pitching but a couple of those runs came when he came out.
Now had he stayed in that inning, who knows if he would've given up those runs anyways but he's done a good job so far this ST. That's to go along with the reports that the A's coaches/players are seeing more from Mazz thru the first few weeks this month than they saw at the end of last season when he was struggling.
With Duke's uncertainty to begin April, could see all three of Gio, Cahill, and Mazz up in the bigs to start the year.
Now had he stayed in that inning, who knows if he would've given up those runs anyways but he's done a good job so far this ST. That's to go along with the reports that the A's coaches/players are seeing more from Mazz thru the first few weeks this month than they saw at the end of last season when he was struggling.
With Duke's uncertainty to begin April, could see all three of Gio, Cahill, and Mazz up in the bigs to start the year.
Mar 14, 2010 at 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by ninerpride:
He's pitched a couple of scoreless innings and did give up an run when he was pitching but a couple of those runs came when he came out.
Now had he stayed in that inning, who knows if he would've given up those runs anyways but he's done a good job so far this ST. That's to go along with the reports that the A's coaches/players are seeing more from Mazz thru the first few weeks this month than they saw at the end of last season when he was struggling.
With Duke's uncertainty to begin April, could see all three of Gio, Cahill, and Mazz up in the bigs to start the year.
Anderson, Sheets, Braden are locks. That leaves 1 or 2 spots (depending on health of Duchscherer).
Mar 14, 2010 at 10:35 PM
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It looks as the A's will head into the season with a 12 man pitching staff, 7 being in the pen. I don't think at this point that the A's will carry both Fox and Rosales on the opening day roster. Although Fox has no options left and Rosales does, but if the keep Fox, that means they don't have a backup MIF with the three other likely to be here on the bench to start the season being...
-Powell(C/DH)
-Chavez(1B/DH/3B/OF)
-Gross(OF)
...none having the ability to play either backup 2B or SS. There's the chance the A's use Chavez in emergency situations.
Course could be wrong but if I'm not, they could carry an extra arm in the pen to begin the year if Duke isn't ready and at this time doesn't look like Devine will be ready to begin the year either ...
SP-Sheets, Anderson, Braden, Gio, Cahill
RP-Mazz, Breslow, Blevins/Kilby, Wuertz, Ziegler
CP-Bailey
-Powell(C/DH)
-Chavez(1B/DH/3B/OF)
-Gross(OF)
...none having the ability to play either backup 2B or SS. There's the chance the A's use Chavez in emergency situations.
Course could be wrong but if I'm not, they could carry an extra arm in the pen to begin the year if Duke isn't ready and at this time doesn't look like Devine will be ready to begin the year either ...
SP-Sheets, Anderson, Braden, Gio, Cahill
RP-Mazz, Breslow, Blevins/Kilby, Wuertz, Ziegler
CP-Bailey
Mar 14, 2010 at 10:55 PM
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ESPN's Law speculates the A's could limit Ynoa this summer to about 70 IP in a short season league, probably at VAN.
This follows up the Slusser article over the weekend where A's director of player development said Ynoa will throw 75-100 IP this season.
So much for me thinking he could have a King Felix type quick rise thru the minors when he signed. I think Felix arrived in the majors when he was 19 or 20.
Ynoa will turn 19 by the end of this upcoming season on 9/24.
This follows up the Slusser article over the weekend where A's director of player development said Ynoa will throw 75-100 IP this season.
So much for me thinking he could have a King Felix type quick rise thru the minors when he signed. I think Felix arrived in the majors when he was 19 or 20.
Ynoa will turn 19 by the end of this upcoming season on 9/24.
Mar 15, 2010 at 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by ninerpride:
ESPN's Law speculates the A's could limit Ynoa this summer to about 70 IP in a short season league, probably at VAN.
This follows up the Slusser article over the weekend where A's director of player development said Ynoa will throw 75-100 IP this season.
So much for me thinking he could have a King Felix type quick rise thru the minors when he signed. I think Felix arrived in the majors when he was 19 or 20.
Ynoa will turn 19 by the end of this upcoming season on 9/24.
Hernandez spent parts of 3 years in the minors. I could see a similar path for Ynoa if all goes right.
Felix
Age 17, 69 IP, 55 in SS, 14 in A ball
Age 18 A+ 92 IP
Age 19 AAA 88, MLB 84 IP's
I could see Ynoa doing a similar path only being a year older.
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Mar 15, 2010 at 5:22 AM
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Ynoa definitely could be a WC in a few years.
You hope by then the youngsters in Anderson, Cahill, Mazz, Gio, Braden and possibly guys on the cusp in a year or two like a Ross, Fig, Leon and maybe Simmons are established in the bigs.
Likened a Ynoa type arrival maybe in 2-3 years to how Harden came up in 03 when the Big 3 were already established as one of the top if not the top 1-2-3 in all of the bigs and the A's had another young talented arm in Lilly and Harden dealt from the very start.
Some other WCs in the A's future, least pitching are two guys I know some A's fans aren't that high on much anymore in DLS and Hunter. Mentioned DLS over the weekend and his struggles so far this ST. Remember he was given the highest ever signing bonus to a 7th rounder back in 08.
He had HORRIBLE control issues last season, a new delivery probably didn't help much as he had 59 BBs in 47.1 IP. But when he wasn't walking everybody in sight and got the ball over the plate, not like he was hitters got a ton of good contact on him as he gave up only 38 hits in those 47.1 IP last season at A ball KC, also had 55 Ks.
Hunter will turn 23 in June so he's not that old. I know most don't even mention him much anymore as a legit prospect but I'm not ready to give up on him. Fact he could be a sleeper this upcoming season although don't know where the A's will put him, a SP or RP, which was a question mark even when the A's did eventually sign him. You'd think a guy who you gave that much money to, a record signing bonus, you'd want him to develop into a SP. The guy has very good stuff, projected as a top ten pick before that 07-08 college season but got injured.
Guessing he'll start at A+ but yet again, don't know what as? SP or RP. Guessing at this point it'll be a RP.
Hopefully DLS and Hunter can rebound after a disappointing 09 season and at least for DLS ST too and can have 2010 season in the minors where they'll be seen as prospects who could help maybe sometime in 2011 be it as SP or RP.
You hope by then the youngsters in Anderson, Cahill, Mazz, Gio, Braden and possibly guys on the cusp in a year or two like a Ross, Fig, Leon and maybe Simmons are established in the bigs.
Likened a Ynoa type arrival maybe in 2-3 years to how Harden came up in 03 when the Big 3 were already established as one of the top if not the top 1-2-3 in all of the bigs and the A's had another young talented arm in Lilly and Harden dealt from the very start.
Some other WCs in the A's future, least pitching are two guys I know some A's fans aren't that high on much anymore in DLS and Hunter. Mentioned DLS over the weekend and his struggles so far this ST. Remember he was given the highest ever signing bonus to a 7th rounder back in 08.
He had HORRIBLE control issues last season, a new delivery probably didn't help much as he had 59 BBs in 47.1 IP. But when he wasn't walking everybody in sight and got the ball over the plate, not like he was hitters got a ton of good contact on him as he gave up only 38 hits in those 47.1 IP last season at A ball KC, also had 55 Ks.
Hunter will turn 23 in June so he's not that old. I know most don't even mention him much anymore as a legit prospect but I'm not ready to give up on him. Fact he could be a sleeper this upcoming season although don't know where the A's will put him, a SP or RP, which was a question mark even when the A's did eventually sign him. You'd think a guy who you gave that much money to, a record signing bonus, you'd want him to develop into a SP. The guy has very good stuff, projected as a top ten pick before that 07-08 college season but got injured.
Guessing he'll start at A+ but yet again, don't know what as? SP or RP. Guessing at this point it'll be a RP.
Hopefully DLS and Hunter can rebound after a disappointing 09 season and at least for DLS ST too and can have 2010 season in the minors where they'll be seen as prospects who could help maybe sometime in 2011 be it as SP or RP.
Mar 15, 2010 at 5:29 AM
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Also saw Slusser post at her blog that Barton got some laser eye surgery this past offseason.
Hopefully that improves his game even by a small bit.
So far so good after a slow beginning. Barton is 8/18 in ST and has more BBs than Ks at 5/4. Which is a repeat of what he did post all star break last season when he had 23 Ks/21 BBs. Good sign and hopefully like with Sweeney, these two youngsters can have that breakout season a lot of A's fans are hoping to see.
I know neither are projected to be the power hitter you want from a corner IF/OF but I think they both can end up being very good overall hitters who have at least gap/2B power.
Sweeney in particular late last season showed warning track and wall scraping power with so many of his hits late in 09. So far in ST I know it's early he only has one XBH, a 2B. I honestly expect Barton and Sweeney to hit 40+ 2Bs this season, HR power, probably pushing it if we expect them to hit anything more than max 15 HRs from each.
Hopefully that improves his game even by a small bit.
So far so good after a slow beginning. Barton is 8/18 in ST and has more BBs than Ks at 5/4. Which is a repeat of what he did post all star break last season when he had 23 Ks/21 BBs. Good sign and hopefully like with Sweeney, these two youngsters can have that breakout season a lot of A's fans are hoping to see.
I know neither are projected to be the power hitter you want from a corner IF/OF but I think they both can end up being very good overall hitters who have at least gap/2B power.
Sweeney in particular late last season showed warning track and wall scraping power with so many of his hits late in 09. So far in ST I know it's early he only has one XBH, a 2B. I honestly expect Barton and Sweeney to hit 40+ 2Bs this season, HR power, probably pushing it if we expect them to hit anything more than max 15 HRs from each.
Mar 15, 2010 at 5:45 AM
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Also for Ynoa, I could see the A's going one year, one level for him.
Like mentioned, A's have good potential SP depth right now in the bigs and minors. Now it's not likely ALL the names I mentioned previously...
Anderson
Cahill
Gio
Braden
Mazz
Ross
Figg
Leon
...and those I didn't mention as possible SP in a year or two like a Capra, Marks, Hornbeck and a few others will either all make it to the bigs and then succeed in the bigs. That's the good thing about having a lot of depth in the farm system.
Ynoa is the A's potential jewel of a prospect and I don't see them trying to rush him at all. Felix as you posted skipped a whole level of AA.
I could see a time line for Ynoa like...
2010-finish the year at A- VAN...19 years old.
2011-start the year at A KC, finish the year at A+ Stockton...20 years old.
2012-start year at A+ Stockton, finish year at AA MID...21 years old.
2013-start year at AA MID, maybe move to AAA by midseason and could be a SEP call up by season's end...22 years old.
2014-at the age of only 22, could be in the A's rotation by June/midseason.
...maybe I'm a bit too safe/conservative for Ynoa who some scouts thought could get hitters out at the AAA level when the A's signed him as a 16 year old in the summer of 08, but I'd be extra cautious with this kid.
But if Ynoa dominates when he starts pitching on a regular basis in full league levels, then by all means promote him aggressively.
Like mentioned, A's have good potential SP depth right now in the bigs and minors. Now it's not likely ALL the names I mentioned previously...
Anderson
Cahill
Gio
Braden
Mazz
Ross
Figg
Leon
...and those I didn't mention as possible SP in a year or two like a Capra, Marks, Hornbeck and a few others will either all make it to the bigs and then succeed in the bigs. That's the good thing about having a lot of depth in the farm system.
Ynoa is the A's potential jewel of a prospect and I don't see them trying to rush him at all. Felix as you posted skipped a whole level of AA.
I could see a time line for Ynoa like...
2010-finish the year at A- VAN...19 years old.
2011-start the year at A KC, finish the year at A+ Stockton...20 years old.
2012-start year at A+ Stockton, finish year at AA MID...21 years old.
2013-start year at AA MID, maybe move to AAA by midseason and could be a SEP call up by season's end...22 years old.
2014-at the age of only 22, could be in the A's rotation by June/midseason.
...maybe I'm a bit too safe/conservative for Ynoa who some scouts thought could get hitters out at the AAA level when the A's signed him as a 16 year old in the summer of 08, but I'd be extra cautious with this kid.
But if Ynoa dominates when he starts pitching on a regular basis in full league levels, then by all means promote him aggressively.
Mar 15, 2010 at 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by ninerpride:
Also for Ynoa, I could see the A's going one year, one level for him.
Like mentioned, A's have good potential SP depth right now in the bigs and minors. Now it's not likely ALL the names I mentioned previously...
Anderson
Cahill
Gio
Braden
Mazz
Ross
Figg
Leon
...and those I didn't mention as possible SP in a year or two like a Capra, Marks, Hornbeck and a few others will either all make it to the bigs and then succeed in the bigs. That's the good thing about having a lot of depth in the farm system.
Ynoa is the A's potential jewel of a prospect and I don't see them trying to rush him at all. Felix as you posted skipped a whole level of AA.
I could see a time line for Ynoa like...
2010-finish the year at A- VAN...19 years old.
2011-start the year at A KC, finish the year at A+ Stockton...20 years old.
2012-start year at A+ Stockton, finish year at AA MID...21 years old.
2013-start year at AA MID, maybe move to AAA by midseason and could be a SEP call up by season's end...22 years old.
2014-at the age of only 22, could be in the A's rotation by June/midseason.
...maybe I'm a bit too safe/conservative for Ynoa who some scouts thought could get hitters out at the AAA level when the A's signed him as a 16 year old in the summer of 08, but I'd be extra cautious with this kid.
But if Ynoa dominates when he starts pitching on a regular basis in full league levels, then by all means promote him aggressively.
If he's as good as advertised, that's a bit conservative in my opinion. Here's what could be a reasonable guess,
2010- age 18- 70 IP in Vancouver, Maybe a couple starts/ appearances in KC to get his feet wet.
2011- age 19- A ball, by midseason A+.
2012- age 20- start the season in A+, most the season in AA.
2013- age 21- AAA, midseason call up.
Not much different I just think maybe a year earlier. Of course this is all speculation and it ccertainly wouldn't bother me if he made a Felix like rise through the minors.
Mar 15, 2010 at 3:45 PM
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Sheets today.
Mar 15, 2010 at 6:12 PM
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A's send back rule 5 pick back to LAA.
Never understood why they picked up another RP when their depth at that position from AA to the bigs is very good.
A's haven't done all that well with that rule 5 draft. Remember they let Soria go whos become an all star closer for KC and the year they traded up essentially in the rule 5 draft to draft a CLE OF Golewski, same draft that had CIN draft Hamilton whos turned out to be an all star hitter and a legit middle of the order presence.
Never understood why they picked up another RP when their depth at that position from AA to the bigs is very good.
A's haven't done all that well with that rule 5 draft. Remember they let Soria go whos become an all star closer for KC and the year they traded up essentially in the rule 5 draft to draft a CLE OF Golewski, same draft that had CIN draft Hamilton whos turned out to be an all star hitter and a legit middle of the order presence.
Mar 15, 2010 at 6:59 PM
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Mateo who was one of the top international prospects last summer is visiting the DBacks.
He was the one who was released from STL and they took back their 2+ million dollar signing bonus due a eye issue he had which was pretty bad.
Always wondered why the A's weren't one team that wouldn't swoop into the Mateo discussions. They've already made a huge commitment back to the international market the past few years.
Sure Mateo has vision problems but it's not like he's gonna cost anywhere close to what STL originally offered. Probably wouldnt' have to even 7 figures so why not take a chance.
Heck I'd rather spend a million on Mateo and hope for a low risk but potential high reward type scenario rather than spending five million on a Crisp where IMO he wouldn't give you much more production than lets say a Buck would if given the same amount of ABs in 2010.
He was the one who was released from STL and they took back their 2+ million dollar signing bonus due a eye issue he had which was pretty bad.
Always wondered why the A's weren't one team that wouldn't swoop into the Mateo discussions. They've already made a huge commitment back to the international market the past few years.
Sure Mateo has vision problems but it's not like he's gonna cost anywhere close to what STL originally offered. Probably wouldnt' have to even 7 figures so why not take a chance.
Heck I'd rather spend a million on Mateo and hope for a low risk but potential high reward type scenario rather than spending five million on a Crisp where IMO he wouldn't give you much more production than lets say a Buck would if given the same amount of ABs in 2010.