Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by 1251alex:
wtf, just a few months ago people were saying Nadal was the best of all time and that Federer was done and now all of a sudden they're saying Federer is the best of all time. Congrats to Federer though.
I honestly don't know how people can say that Fed is the greatest player when he is 7-13 against Nadal. You can say he is the greatest champion since he has the most championships in the open era, but player? You gotta dominate your own era first. Nadal has dominated the rivalry vs. Fed, so I have a hard time even saying that Fed is the best player of his own era.
nadal dominates on clay...he hasn't dominated outside of clay. he had a dominating year last year.
there is no doubt fed's the greatest player ever. 21 straight semi final appearances and 15 grand slam titles its not even a question
Nadal is 5-2 in grand slam finals against Fed. Fed won 2 Wimbledon Titles, and lost 1 Australian final, and 1 Wimbledon final. So, outside of Clay, it's 2-2 in grand slam finals.
You are right, he didn't dominate Fed outside of clay, but is even with Fed and is still getting better. Fed is in an era where top 5 seeds have been very weak except the last year or so. Even then, Djokovic and Murray are the next best players after Nadal. During the 90s, there were several really really good players, and there were consistent top 5-6 players. Same during the 70's and 80's.
It's not Fed's fault for not facing elite players, but there has only been one elite player during his era (that too was after Fed had already won 10 Grandslams) and he has a terrible record against him. No way he is the greatest player ever. I don't think it's Sampras either, since he never the French Open.