Week 3 Seattle Seahawks coaches film analysis

jonnydel · 2016-09-27T12:15:14-07:00

Well....that sucked..... Let me start out by saying this: I'm glad I've had a few days to calm down a little bit - I HATE Seattle....really..... There's no other team that I'll go and watch replays of games they lose just to watch them lose.... I used to live in Seattle and have gone to a number of games at the clink(Qwest field before that) and hated being surrounded by those fans every time. I was at the game when we last won in Seattle as was flipped off while I was getting in my car by some lady driving a Buick in her 60's.....seriously, lol. After I watched the game on Sunday I was ready to call for the head of everyone on the team, from Jed-Baalke-Chip-Modkins-JoN-Gabbert-every receiver we have-everyone on defense but Bow.... After watching the game film and having a couple days to calm down there are always positives and negatives from games. So, we'll talk about each. I'm going to flip the script a little from the previous two weeks and talk about QB first. Where I'm at, especially after watching the film is in a pretty similar place to Marvin49. I don't think Gabbert did anything in that game to lose the game for us but he didn't do anything to win it.. The INT he had wasn't his fault, the ball was right where the receiver would want it, Patton simply blew it. I really hated a number of the play calls. I think Modkins hit it right on the head in his presser when he said they have to give their guys a better plan and a better situation. There were a number of designed play calls that were just bad ideas. I don't care who would've been our QB in this game, I don't think we win. We could've had Steve Young under center and I don't think we win this game. Our receivers were blanketed on a number of plays and we had no run game until mid way through the 4th quarter. I saw 2 missed reads in the game - which isn't terrible considering it was Seattle's defense. There were a number of would-be sacks that he helped get the ball out to avoid. But, overall, there's no magic, there's nothing spectacular and Seattle is a great defense that has caused Aaron Rodgers - who has much better receivers, or even Kaepernick with much better receivers, throw for very few yards. So, that has to be taken into account. Seattle's defense was ballin'. If you're gonna beat that defense in Seattle you either need something magical from your QB with zero mistakes, or pack some serious playmakers. We had neither. The game-plan was one that seemed to want to attack Seattle horizontally in the passing game more than vertically. When we tried to attack vertically near the seams we were successful, but far too often we tried to attack horizontally towards the sidelines and failed. Overall - We lost all 3 phases of the game. You can't win in the NFL when that happens. I expected our offense to struggle against that defense, especially considering that our offense isn't overly complex and Seattle with thrive against schemes like that. But I was more disappointed with the defense. People want to blame our defensive struggles on the offense, but when you give up 21 points that quickly, that's not the offenses fault. The Rams' offense wasn't highly successful against Seattle and their defense held them to 3 points. Wasn't it Chip Kelly who said after he was hired and people questioned him about his offense exposing his defense he said, "when you're defense gives up a 3rd and 17 that's not because of your offense". Well, we gave up a 3rd and 17....seriously....we did. We gave up many 3rd and longs - you cannot do that and win. You just can't. we gave up the following: 3rd and10 3rd and 15 3rd and 14 3rd and 17 3rd and 21 When you give up 5 downs of 3rd and 10+...that's just bad folks. We also lost on special teams. We missed a FG, gave up a 62 yard punt return and had another punt tipped that resulted in a 26 yard punt. You can't do those things against great teams and expect to win. Defense - I thought we had a number of players who stood out - and not for good reasons. We also got out-schemed a couple times that cost us big. Our defense should be much better than it was. We have 4 first round picks on that side of the ball. There's no excuse. I don't care if we're young - these are first round picks... LB - we desperately need another playmaker or at least solid LB next to Bow. I feel bad for the guy because his job is 10x harder than it has been in the past. The Seahawks ran at Hodges multiple times and were able to exploit him as well as exploit him in the passing game. Hodges had one of the worst games I've seen from a LB. It was bad. He gave up chunk runs, chunk passes and was at fault numerous times. We also desperately need some more help at OLB. Harold and Carradine are not the answer. DL - Armstead played very few snaps in this game and I know I'm going to get flak and people calling me impatient - but the dude is in his 19th game as a pro and was a mid-first round pick. While I don't expect him to be J.J. Watt, he should be playing more than situation-ally at this point. Yes, he can push the pocket but he still disappears in the run game. We got equal production from Quinton Dial who was a 6th rounder. Armstead needs to step it up and step it up quick. Buckner also played sub-par IMO. He didn't do a whole lot to excel - again, he's an early first round pick. Mike Purcell also was the culprit on a few plays. Bear in mind, Seattle's offensive line is supposed to be one of the worst in the league. With the high round talent we have, we should've mauled them. Instead, we made them look all-pro. DB - 3/5 of our secondary were either 1st or 2nd round picks and we let Seattle throw on us quite a few times. We should be better, plain and simple. It wasn't a pretty game for anyone involved and the film is going to show that. To win more games we have to coach better, play better, execute better, throw better, catch better, defend better. We can't put that kind of crappy performance out on the field and expect to win. Not in this division, not in this league. We knew the early part of the season was going to be tough and we were facing a murderers row of front 7's in the league. But, these are also the gold-standard teams that we have to measure ourselves against to see where we're at. Unfortunately, we're measured as severely lacking in talent in comparison to these teams.

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:23 PM

miked1978
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So in other words, we suck at just about everything.

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Sep 27, 2016 at 12:27 PM

jonnydel
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Originally posted by miked1978:
So in other words, we suck at just about everything.

and that's after I calmed down...LOL

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:27 PM

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Why does AA not play full time ?

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by susweel:
Why does AA not play full time ?

bc he's s**tty

. Makes me hate Baalke so much lol.

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Dajanksta:

Originally posted by susweel:
Why does AA not play full time ?

bc he's s**tty . Makes me hate Baalke so much lol.

Srsly I want the answer for this he's a mid first round pick in his second year why is he not playing 80-90% of the snaps ?????????

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:32 PM

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Gabbert is terrible, zero redeemable factors. He was 1 for 11 on 3rd downs.

How can you explain the guy being so great at reads yet failing so hard to pass the ball?

It's not like he just delivers bad passes too. He consistently doesn't even attempt to throw past the first down marker.

How can you possibly think a QB is reading the field or seeing the field well when they are dead last on 3rd downs, going 2 years in a row?

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:32 PM

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I don't think Gabbert did anything in that game to lose the game for us but he didn't do anything to win it.. The INT he had wasn't his fault, the ball was right where the receiver would want it, Patton simply blew it. I really hated a number of the play calls. I think Modkins hit it right on the head in his presser when he said they have to give their guys a better plan and a better situation. There were a number of designed play calls that were just bad ideas. I don't care who would've been our QB in this game, I don't think we win. We could've had Steve Young under center and I don't think we win this game.

didn't do anything to lose the game? How about converting 1st downs? Helping our defense to rest, TO FEEL MOTIVATED TO STAY IN THE GAME. How about waiting for something else to be open than hitting the first short pass he feels comfortable with

of course you don't care who could've been the QB this game. The point is, we don't know what could've happened. BUT what we do know, is Gabbert continues to play as the worse Starting QB in the League.

I got to get back to work.. I'll edit it this later....

[ Edited by Afrikan on Sep 27, 2016 at 12:40 PM ]

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:33 PM

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Here's the first big play we gave up on D. We just got out-schemed.

Here, we come out with a single high safety and show press on the outside. We've been beat by rub routes like this several times this season. This was one thing that Fangio's defense almost never got beat by because of his pattern-matching. Here, since we're trying to press, we can't pattern-match. So, to defeat these rub/pick plays your inside DB has to jam his guy off the line hard. I talked about it in another film thread and showed how Browner did that vs the Seahawks in the SB winning play.

Right before the snap, Ward backs off but Davis doesn't get any kind of jam on his guy and gets picked easily. Our defenders don't swap receivers and you see Davis has lost.

Because we're running a single high safety, he can't provide any help to the outside and it's now just an easy throw and catch. Even Blaine Gabbert could make this throw.

Easy play for 34 yards. Poor execution on our part and great execution on Seattle's part.

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by Afrikan:
I don't think Gabbert did anything in that game to lose the game for us but he didn't do anything to win it.. The INT he had wasn't his fault, the ball was right where the receiver would want it, Patton simply blew it. I really hated a number of the play calls. I think Modkins hit it right on the head in his presser when he said they have to give their guys a better plan and a better situation. There were a number of designed play calls that were just bad ideas. I don't care who would've been our QB in this game, I don't think we win. We could've had Steve Young under center and I don't think we win this game.

didn't do anything to lose the game? How about converting 1st downs? Helping our defense to rest, TO FEEL MOTIVATED TO STAY IN THE GAME. How about waiting for something else to be open than hitting the first short pass he feels comfortable with

of course you don't care who could've been the QB this game. The point is, we don't know what could've happened. BUT what we do know, is Gabbert continues to play as the worse Starting QB in the League.

I got to get back to work.. I'll edit it this later....

I called it last week. Again taking it easy on the current QB, who has a better Oline and Chip Kelly running the offense but struggling worse than Kap last season with Tomsula and Pears blocking for him and while injured.

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:34 PM

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jonnydel
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Originally posted by awp8912:
Gabbert is terrible, zero redeemable factors. He was 1 for 11 on 3rd downs.

How can you explain the guy being so great at reads yet failing so hard to pass the ball?

It's not like he just delivers bad passes too. He consistently doesn't even attempt to throw past the first down marker.

How can you possibly think a QB is reading the field or seeing the field well when they are dead last on 3rd downs, going 2 years in a row?

read Modkins' presser and you'll see why it was in this game.... it's what I saw...

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Dajanksta:

Originally posted by susweel:
Why does AA not play full time ?

bc he's s**tty . Makes me hate Baalke so much lol.

Srsly I want the answer for this he's a mid first round pick in his second year why is he not playing 80-90% of the snaps ?????????

Have we all forgotten about this????

http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/8/31/12729630/arik-armstead-shoulder-injury-might-eventually-need-surgery

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:36 PM

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Him and Buckner are too dam tall and don't play low enough. Thus they both are getting pushed around in the run game regardless of their strength. They do better on pass rush downs b/c the o lineman isn't firing off at them low. Thus they can use their raw power. But this only makes both of them part time players and not every down play makers like we need. Hopefully they can learn to play lower

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by susweel:
Why does AA not play full time ?

Last week he was on the injury report with knee and shoulder issues. I haven't heard what the shoulder issue is but Maiocco said last week that Armstead would be "dealing with the shoulder issue all season." If that is the case, he won't be of much help this year. Too bad after standing out in TC.

Sep 27, 2016 at 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by Afrikan:
I don't think Gabbert did anything in that game to lose the game for us but he didn't do anything to win it.. The INT he had wasn't his fault, the ball was right where the receiver would want it, Patton simply blew it. I really hated a number of the play calls. I think Modkins hit it right on the head in his presser when he said they have to give their guys a better plan and a better situation. There were a number of designed play calls that were just bad ideas. I don't care who would've been our QB in this game, I don't think we win. We could've had Steve Young under center and I don't think we win this game.

didn't do anything to lose the game? How about converting 1st downs? Helping our defense to rest, TO FEEL MOTIVATED TO STAY IN THE GAME. How about waiting for something else to be open than hitting the first short pass he feels comfortable with

of course you don't care who could've been the QB this game. The point is, we don't know what could've happened. BUT what we do know, is Gabbert continues to play as the worse Starting QB in the League.

I got to get back to work.. I'll edit it this later....

Hilarious.