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The 49ers Read Option
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May 25, 2013 at 7:32 PM
- ElephantHaley
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Its been about 8 years for me, around 2005 when I first watched the Read option offense in college. And I just thought, How in the heck are defenses supposed to stop the Read option?? And i also wondered why NFL teams didn't install it into the league until recently. All i've been hearing all offseason is that all these so called experts are saying that NFL coaches will find a way to stop the Read option. Well i'm here to tell you that I personally dont think it can be stopped. Look at the college game, teams that run the read option are scoring almost at will. Notice all these Ping Pong High scoring college games. and look at 2012 with Our Kaep and RGIII and even pipp squak russell wilson and Cam Newton, especially Us 9ers, our offense when Kaep was in there with all 10 of his starts was so dang EXPLOSIVE!!! I dare teams to think they can stop us and the read option, because the Read Option is HERE TO STAY, it will stand the test of time. Heck we fell down 17-0 at Atlanta and won and shoulda won by atleast 10 points had Crabs not fumbled at the 1 yard line and Akers choking that FG and even in the Super Bowl when we fell down 28-6, we even shoulda won the Game all thanks to the Read Option, even though it was used as a decoy in the Super Bowl. I even started using it on Madden and I kid you not I had a 41 yard TD run by Kaep almost identical to his TD vs the Cheesehead. It is such an awesome Offense. Maybe now with the loss of Crabs, we can use the Read Option + play action to VD & Boldin to blow teams out!! Anyway LOVE THE READ OPTION!!
May 25, 2013 at 11:08 PM
- RishikeshA
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I agree, with the right QB it seems impossible to stop. The big problem is injury, no way a QB goes a whole season without that happening. Secondly, the life span of a QB will be shortened. In 1960 the 49ers ran the shotgun with Billy Kilmer at quarterback, they ran through a few games putting up big numbers until the Bears shut the offense down. I think you'll see defensive coordinators finding ways to at least limit the offense if not shut it down completely. Watch replays of the Super Bowl, Suggs would tee off on Kaep with no regard for the play every time he had a chance.
May 26, 2013 at 12:13 AM
- ElephantHaley
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Yeah Suggs teed off on Kap, but it was mental mistakes in the redzone and the last drive that was wrong. We had a 300 yard passer, 100 yard rusher, and 2 100 yard recievers. It wasnt the Ravens stopping the 49ers in the SB, it was awful 9er defense in the 1st half and a Jacoby Jones KO return otherwise the Read Option offense would have breezed the title number 6.
May 26, 2013 at 12:54 AM
- RishikeshA
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Originally posted by ElephantHaley:Yeah Suggs teed off on Kap, but it was mental mistakes in the redzone and the last drive that was wrong. We had a 300 yard passer, 100 yard rusher, and 2 100 yard recievers. It wasnt the Ravens stopping the 49ers in the SB, it was awful 9er defense in the 1st half and a Jacoby Jones KO return otherwise the Read Option offense would have breezed the title number 6.
The point is that opposing defenses will tee off on Kaep if we run the option too much. His passing game is so strong the Niners can run the option a few times a game and it would break every time. When I go over the Super Bowl there were so many mistakes the 49ers made that cost them the game. The opening illegal formation penalty on the first play of the game was huge.The Ravens had one mistake, the fumble by Rice, that's it. The only way the Ravens stop us on the last series is if there is little room to operate. If Gore is stopped at the 20 instead of the 7 we win. The overweight Raven front seven didn't have to move once we reached the 7 yard line.
May 26, 2013 at 2:52 AM
- WildBill
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First of all, let's get one thing straight, although it is here to stay, it is never going to be a staple offense. It is something you pull out several times a game to present match up problems and make the otherside adjust and think about for the rest of the game. Second, pistol is the same. Third, people think that the niners run the rea option an extraordinay amount of times because of the stat that Kaep produces in the category of rushing yards and assume many of it is because of it when in fact a lot of his yards come off of scrambles from broken pass plays.
The other thing is that what it comes down to is who can make the adjustments better and who has the better talent, just cause one team has stopped the read option doesn't mean another can if the other teams don't have the talent/experience/discipline to do so.
The other thing is that what it comes down to is who can make the adjustments better and who has the better talent, just cause one team has stopped the read option doesn't mean another can if the other teams don't have the talent/experience/discipline to do so.
May 26, 2013 at 6:41 AM
- dtg_9er
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Originally posted by WildBill:
First of all, let's get one thing straight, although it is here to stay, it is never going to be a staple offense. It is something you pull out several times a game to present match up problems and make the otherside adjust and think about for the rest of the game. Second, pistol is the same. Third, people think that the niners run the rea option an extraordinay amount of times because of the stat that Kaep produces in the category of rushing yards and assume many of it is because of it when in fact a lot of his yards come off of scrambles from broken pass plays.
The other thing is that what it comes down to is who can make the adjustments better and who has the better talent, just cause one team has stopped the read option doesn't mean another can if the other teams don't have the talent/experience/discipline to do so.
This seems to be correct from my point of view. Balt did a pretty good job of shutting down the read option because they have a good, disciplined defense. The NYG would likely play well against it as well. But making the defense aware of Kaepernick's potential to take off forces them to account for the read option AND all other aspects of the offense. Harbaugh has always done this type of thing--using many formations and substitutes to present different looks, this is just another very effective wrinkle.
May 26, 2013 at 7:22 AM
- HearstFan
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The read option is not an entire offense for the 49ers. Maybe for college teams it is a big part of the run plays called. The read option gets a lot of attention in the NFL because even 5 plays a game of it are exciting.
It is really the pistol formation that is revolutionary. It is a short shotgun set with a heavy run formation. What is so problematic for a defense is that this set enables a true versatility of a run or pass with equal effect. In a standard shotgun it is very hard (in this split second makes a huge difference level of football) for a running play to be quick hitting. But with the pistol, the run is a big threat, while the pass remains an equal threat (with the right personnel).
Walker as H-back, TE, Fullback and motioning out to WR made the pistol so versatile. The big question for the 49ers pistol is who can bring that kind of triple threat to the formation this year?
It is really the pistol formation that is revolutionary. It is a short shotgun set with a heavy run formation. What is so problematic for a defense is that this set enables a true versatility of a run or pass with equal effect. In a standard shotgun it is very hard (in this split second makes a huge difference level of football) for a running play to be quick hitting. But with the pistol, the run is a big threat, while the pass remains an equal threat (with the right personnel).
Walker as H-back, TE, Fullback and motioning out to WR made the pistol so versatile. The big question for the 49ers pistol is who can bring that kind of triple threat to the formation this year?
May 26, 2013 at 8:19 AM
- Big_Daddy
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Should be minimized. Power run game with vertical passing game. We don't need anything more than that, and certainly need Kap to stay healthy once he signs a big contract
May 26, 2013 at 8:40 AM
- TruNinerFan
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I just find it funny that all these fans and experts think that we are finished once the NFL figures out the read option. That is just a small part of our offense. Will stopping the read option also stop our power running game? Will it stop Kaepernick throwing strikes down the field? will it stop Kapernick scrambling out of trouble for huge gains? I really hope D coordinators spend all their time focusing on the read option.
May 26, 2013 at 8:44 AM
- 60sFan
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Originally posted by TruNinerFan:
I just find it funny that all these fans and experts think that we are finished once the NFL figures out the read option. That is just a small part of our offense. Will stopping the read option also stop our power running game? Will it stop Kaepernick throwing strikes down the field? will it stop Kapernick scrambling out of trouble for huge gains? I really hope D coordinators spend all their time focusing on the read option.
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May 26, 2013 at 8:12 PM
- 49erfeeeever808
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Originally posted by 60sfan:
Originally posted by TruNinerFan:
I just find it funny that all these fans and experts think that we are finished once the NFL figures out the read option. That is just a small part of our offense. Will stopping the read option also stop our power running game? Will it stop Kaepernick throwing strikes down the field? will it stop Kapernick scrambling out of trouble for huge gains? I really hope D coordinators spend all their time focusing on the read option.
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read option = greatest smokescreen ever.
May 27, 2013 at 7:23 AM
- UKNiners
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Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:read option = greatest smokescreen ever.
Best way I've heard it put. The question now is, D's will adjust, how well the Niners?
May 27, 2013 at 11:39 AM
- m_brockalexander
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The Niners ran the read option less than 5% of the time last year. When are people going to get it through their thick skulls that the Niners run the Pistol offense which is a power running, play action offense more than the read option. If NFL coaches can figure out how to stop what is a traditional offensive approach that is just run out of a different formation, then they will have something.
Until then, stop worrying about a problem that does not exist.
Until then, stop worrying about a problem that does not exist.
May 27, 2013 at 11:58 AM
- Pillbusta
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Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
The Niners ran the read option less than 5% of the time last year. When are people going to get it through their thick skulls that the Niners run the Pistol offense which is a power running, play action offense more than the read option. If NFL coaches can figure out how to stop what is a traditional offensive approach that is just run out of a different formation, then they will have something.
Until then, stop worrying about a problem that does not exist.
And Kaep did just fine in the Alex Smith offense when he got in the CHI game. We can do any and everything on offense and we have shown that. All people can keep in their minds are Kaep's explosive performance vs GB in the playoffs. Good grief!!
May 27, 2013 at 1:22 PM
- m_brockalexander
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:Originally posted by m_brockalexander:The Niners ran the read option less than 5% of the time last year. When are people going to get it through their thick skulls that the Niners run the Pistol offense which is a power running, play action offense more than the read option. If NFL coaches can figure out how to stop what is a traditional offensive approach that is just run out of a different formation, then they will have something.
Until then, stop worrying about a problem that does not exist.
And Kaep did just fine in the Alex Smith offense when he got in the CHI game. We can do any and everything on offense and we have shown that. All people can keep in their minds are Kaep's explosive performance vs GB in the playoffs. Good grief!!
I was there for his debut and Kaep made all the downfield throws that Alex wouldn't.
The Green Bay game was an aberration, but it will stick in people's minds because Kaep broke the record for QB rushing yards in a single game and it was a playoff game.
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