Rosterbation - who are the 53 | Page 3

DarkKnight1680 · 2013-05-02T10:07:54-07:00

Inspired by the recent article, I was putting together my 53 man roster and decided to share. For those of you that have read my posts over this offseason, you will notice a continuing theme - there is no place on this roster for Donte Whitner, who is very possibly the worst starting safety in the league. On to the List! Offense (25) QB (3): Kaep, McCoy, Tolzien - Scott gets the nod over Daniels. BJ may fit the Kaep scheme better, but the coaching staff has had Tolzien for a while and I think they stick with him. Daniels is a PS possibility. RB (4): Gore, Hunter, James, Dixon - Dixon makes it dure to ST value and potential as a short-yardage guy. UDFA Harper is an interesting option for the PS or as a last man. Lattimore to the PUP, maybe to come off if there is a midseason injury like we saw with Hunter last year. FB (1): Miller - Not much here. WR (6): Crabtree, Boldin, Manningham, Jenkins, Patton, Williams - I think this is a pretty obvious group at this point. The 3 older vets, the 2 young guys, and Williams, who has shown flashes from the slot and adds value in the return game. TE (3): Davis, McDonald, Celek - I wish there was more excitement here but it seems pretty set. OT (3): Staley, Davis, Marquadt - The first surprise here - I have a feeling that the enormous kid from DII is going to impress enough to make the roster. There are not a lot of talented kids that size out there, and if they think he's recovered from his injury and looks good in camp I think they keep him around. Doesn't hurt him that there aren't a lot of other true Tackles on the roster. OG (4): Iupati, Boone, Kilgore, Looney - Two unquestioned starters and two young backups. I don't really see much of a challenge here. C (1): Goodwin - Kilgore could beat him out in camp but I would guess Goodwin remains on the roster unless his play take a huge nosedive Defense (25) DL (7): Smith, McDonald, Dorsey, Carradine, Williams, Dial, Okoye - Niners had 7 D Lineman going into last year and I think thats a safe number. With the expected number of snaps for Smith, Ray, Dorsey, and Tank they can afford to keep some of the young guys around to develop. I think Dial and Okoye have upside that guys like Dobba and Tukafu can't match. OLB (5): Smith, Brooks, Haralson, Lemonier, Johnson - Pretty obvioust hat, barring injury, the first 3 guys will get 90+% of the snaps. Johnson has talent if he's healthy and Lemonier was a high-enough pick to stick around. ILB (4): Willis, Bowman, Skuta, Moody - The 4th spot here is one of the toughest to predict. I took moody due to youth and special teams ability. Could be wilhoite or another. CB (5): Rogers, Brown, Culliver, Asomugha, Cox - Despite their seeming commitment to him, I think the coaches realize that Tramaine Brock is not good enough to play corner in the NFL. He was burned almost every time he stepped on the field. Offenses picked on him and he was powerless. Too many better guys ahead of him. ST value isn't enough to keep him. S (4): Reid, Dahl, Spillman, Robinson - So, no Whitner. I've posted the true stats in other threads, and I'll add them later if people argue too much that he's not a liability. But he needs to go, for salary and football reasons. I would not be surprised to see him go and a FA come in after some cuts happen throughout the NFL. Woodson is also an option. I have Robinson pencilled in for now. Special Teams (3) K (1): Dawson P (1): Lee LS (1): Jennings Not much to argue about with this group. Similar structure to last year. One more LB and one less DB, but those guys are really just ST players anyway. TO me it looks like a terrific roster, with some young upside and a ton of solid veterans. The weaskest point is still the Safety group, but I really believe there is addition-by-subtraction simply by removing Whitner. You may see more CBs on the field in the nivkel/dime situations depending on how things go with Nnamdi. Special teams should be improved, with a umber of good ST guys (Skuta, Moody, Spillman) and an upgrade at kicker. Return duties are up in the air, but expect Williams, Hunter and James to be the main guys. Thats my roster! Have fun picking it apart!

May 2, 2013 at 2:39 PM

#31

valrod33
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Originally posted by blm7754:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by blm7754:

Originally posted by NickSh49:
Donte Whitner is a lock. Sorry bro...

I don't know about that. Whitner has a lot of downsides. Yes, his leadership, experience, and run support will be missed. But his contract and pass coverage liability will not be missed.

To me, he has more going against him. If Reid is really, NFL ready and is as smart as he seems, I think he makes Whitner expendable.

Lol then who plays FS? Dahl? Reid and Whitner will be our starters.

Trenton Robinson plays FS. You know, our 6th round pick last year? Great cover skills. Fell in the draft due to the fact that he's not built like a safety.

Plenty of good free safeties are short (Earl Thomas, Eric Weddle, Reggie Nelson, Mike Adams, Ed Reed).

SO basically start two rookies at safety? You think we got torched last year during the playoffs? watch happens if we start two rookies. Yes i know Robinson isnt a rookie but he never has played an NFL game either

May 2, 2013 at 2:54 PM

#32

NowImLost
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Originally posted by dhp318:
I suspect there's some sort of handshake deal, where the 49ers basically say this is at least a 2 year commitment, and by being on the 49ers PS, you'd have the best chance to learn to play football and the DL position from a guy like Tomsula with NFL Europe experience. the 49ers PS would be a much better way of becoming a good player than making the 53 and being inactive on another team. This guy is smart enough to know that joining a random team's 53 man squad isn't the best for his development, unless that team promises regular starting time (which is unlikely).

Exactly my thought, too. During the interview he had with Jamal Anderson, I remember him saying he wanted continuity and good coaching. He's not going to get continuity by jumping around from team to team and it's already been mentioned that he was high on Jim Tomsula, because of his experience in NFL Europe. I think this is where he wants to be, and knows it's where his best chance to sit, learn, and eventually succeed is.

May 2, 2013 at 3:13 PM

#33

daragon
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Originally posted by NinerG94:
Where did all this nonsense about our safeties all sucking arse start? I swear it snowballs and has now grown out of control. Give me the best safeties of all time and put them up against Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Tony Gonzalez with no pass rush and I guarantee you they get roasted like a Thanksgiving turkey. We fielded a top five pass defense for most of the season and yet they had a couple down games and all of a sudden are trash? This is getting old.

Whitner isn't the best safety in coverage I get that but he is a STRONG safety for crying out loud. Goldson had much better range than he'll ever be given credit for by this fan base too. Way too many people judging these players entire skillsets and careers from way too few games. Its like they completely forgot about all the great plays that player made. The 49ers placed the franchise tag on Goldson once, his peers voted him to the top 100 players list, probowls, and the Bucs signed him to very lucrative deal all because he's not very good! This is coming from the fans of the team they play for!! All of these players, coaches, and professional sports organizations have no idea what they're talking about I guess. And one more thing, the term "ballhawk" is thrown around way too loosely around here. Both FS and SS have to cover, both have to tackle, and both have to be able to bring the wood. The notion that coverage safeties can't tackle and big hitters can't play coverage is ridiculous.

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