Here's what happened:
Justin Smith was injured.
Aldon Smith was injured.
Depth is needed.
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The Demise of our Pass Defense in the Play-Offs
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Apr 4, 2013 at 3:06 PM
- Beeker
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Apr 4, 2013 at 3:16 PM
- buck
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Originally posted by Beeker:
Here's what happened:
Justin Smith was injured.
Aldon Smith was injured.
Depth is needed.
Seems a bit simplistic.
That might explain some of the difference between the regular season and the play-offs, but it does not explain the critical difference of the pass defense in the first and second halves of the Atlanta and Baltimore games.
They were injured in both halves of the Baltimore and Atlanta games, and the pass defense went from piss poor in the first half to decent in the second half of each of those games.
If anything, you would expect the effectiveness of the past defense to decrease, not increase, in the second halves as the accumulated stress on those injuries increased with playing time.
Yes, we do need more depth.
[ Edited by buck on Apr 4, 2013 at 3:19 PM ]
Apr 4, 2013 at 3:19 PM
- LoneWolf
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Originally posted by Beeker:Here's what happened:
Justin Smith was injured.
Aldon Smith was injured.
Depth is needed.
This. A very large part of our success in pass defense this last year was our pass rush and ability to just rush 4 men leaving more in the backfield to defend receivers part of the reason our run defense had fallen a small amount. Our 4 man rush was very successful getting to the qb this year and not always for a sack we were praised for our abilities to get in the qbs face and disrupt his vision leaving him throwing to the last known location of his receiver, as well as cutting down the receivers time to get open. This greatfully benefitted our pass defense and our abiliy to keep coverage tight. The big issue with Justin and aldon being injured gave qbs alot more time to let there receivers get open, and this wasnt only in the post season. It started against the Pats after Justins injury Brady had much more time to let his receivers and tes get open that they walked all over our secondary almost leading to a comeback, same happened the next week against Seattle. If you look at the weekly stats for our defense against the pass it started to fall right after the pats game not just the post season.
Apr 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM
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Now between halfs im not totally sure other then a change of game plan. We went in with one then had to adjust because i dont think we thought the Falcons or the Ravens would come at us the way they did.
Apr 4, 2013 at 3:23 PM
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Originally posted by LoneWolf:
This. A very large part of our success in pass defense this last year was our pass rush and ability to just rush 4 men leaving more in the backfield to defend receivers part of the reason our run defense had fallen a small amount. Our 4 man rush was very successful getting to the qb this year and not always for a sack we were praised for our abilities to get in the qbs face and disrupt his vision leaving him throwing to the last known location of his receiver, as well as cutting down the receivers time to get open. This greatfully benefitted our pass defense and our abiliy to keep coverage tight. The big issue with Justin and aldon being injured gave qbs alot more time to let there receivers get open, and this wasnt only in the post season. It started against the Pats after Justins injury Brady had much more time to let his receivers and tes get open that they walked all over our secondary almost leading to a comeback, same happened the next week against Seattle. If you look at the weekly stats for our defense against the pass it started to fall right after the pats game not just the post season.
see post #3. True, but not sufficient.

Whoops. missed your comments about the differences between halves.
It really is complicated.
[ Edited by buck on Apr 4, 2013 at 3:25 PM ]
Apr 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM
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I dont think we expected both teams to come out as one dimensional as they did i think we had a game plan to try to force them into being one dimensional, and by them coming out guns blazing they actually caught us of guard.
Apr 4, 2013 at 3:33 PM
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Originally posted by LoneWolf:
I dont think we expected both teams to come out as one dimensional as they did i think we had a game plan to try to force them into being one dimensional, and by them coming out guns blazing they actually caught us of guard.
I tend to agree, but I am not positive. If I remember the games correctly, both Atlanta and Baltimore stayed with the run even though the run produced next to nothing for them.
Apr 4, 2013 at 4:01 PM
- Beeker
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Originally posted by buck:
Seems a bit simplistic.
That might explain some of the difference between the regular season and the play-offs, but it does not explain the critical difference of the pass defense in the first and second halves of the Atlanta and Baltimore games.
They were injured in both halves of the Baltimore and Atlanta games, and the pass defense went from piss poor in the first half to decent in the second half of each of those games.
If anything, you would expect the effectiveness of the past defense to decrease, not increase, in the second halves as the accumulated stress on those injuries increased with playing time.![]()
Yes, we do need more depth.
Not disagreeing with you as to simplistic. It really is, and for the most part, what Lone said in his posts expounded on what I said, too. Second half adjustments - I don't think there is a team better than the 49ers in the NFL at making the adjustments. And it isn't just secondary adjustments, either - it has a lot to do with the LB's, too.
Apr 4, 2013 at 4:46 PM
- DrGonzo00
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How about we actually blitz more than twice a game.
Apr 4, 2013 at 4:56 PM
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Originally posted by DrGonzo00:
How about we actually blitz more than twice a game.
I'm all for that.
Apr 4, 2013 at 5:06 PM
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Originally posted by LoneWolf:
Now between halfs im not totally sure other then a change of game plan. We went in with one then had to adjust because i dont think we thought the Falcons or the Ravens would come at us the way they did.
I think the difference in halfs is due to the fact that we have great coaches and smart veteran players than can make adjustments to what the opponent is doing. I think we play smarter in the second half, not necessarily better.
Apr 4, 2013 at 5:16 PM
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Originally posted by blm7754:
I think the difference in halfs is due to the fact that we have great coaches and smart veteran players than can make adjustments to what the opponent is doing. I think we play smarter in the second half, not necessarily better.
Not sure, I understand the distinction that you are making.
I agree good adjustments were made. The results were better in the second half of those two games.
If we played smarter and the results were better, how does playing smarter not equal playing better.
What is the difference between playing smarter and playing better.
Apr 4, 2013 at 5:21 PM
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Apr 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM
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I have not compared the 2 years but it seemed like teams were able to run better on us in 2012 so they might have been passing less and improving the overall pass D.