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Boldin versus Harvin

We can all hope that P. Carroll uses him as effectively as he was used on the Vikings where, when they beat the Niners last season, Ponder had one of his best days and Harvin torched the Niners for an amazing zero touchdowns.
I can't lie I was licking my chops at the idea of harvin in red and gold with Kap Vernon Crabtree James and co.. So it hit me hard when sea got him. I think they just flat outbid us.
And the more I think about boldin and Crabtree lining up opposite each other the more I like it. They are both everydown receivers who have a physical edge . We will be so versatile running or passing and crabbie and boldin are the kina guys who we need to brawl for four quarters against Seattles comers of unusual size. They will also open up the passing game for guys like Jenkins Williams manningham. I think we could have let him get released and signed him cheaper and maybe we had to do something quick en liu of the harvin deal. But overall I like it. Harbaugh got his blue collar hardworking guy.. Pete Carroll got his flashy but risky and volatile player. I still ask myself tho. Who gonna cover harvin. He bad
Well, somebody covered him when the Vikings played the Niners last season because had had no touchdowns. He did have 9 receptions for 89 yards, but no touchdowns. That's hardly owning the Niners secondary.
Originally posted by matthewabbit:
I can't lie I was licking my chops at the idea of harvin in red and gold with Kap Vernon Crabtree James and co.. So it hit me hard when sea got him. I think they just flat outbid us.
And the more I think about boldin and Crabtree lining up opposite each other the more I like it. They are both everydown receivers who have a physical edge . We will be so versatile running or passing and crabbie and boldin are the kina guys who we need to brawl for four quarters against Seattles comers of unusual size. They will also open up the passing game for guys like Jenkins Williams manningham. I think we could have let him get released and signed him cheaper and maybe we had to do something quick en liu of the harvin deal. But overall I like it. Harbaugh got his blue collar hardworking guy.. Pete Carroll got his flashy but risky and volatile player. I still ask myself tho. Who gonna cover harvin. He bad

I think getting a guy like Harvin can benefit any team, especially the 9ers....but giving up a 1st rounder makes you think twice....we got a bunch of draft picks with a chance to dominate in future with a reload of young guys willing to play for a great coaching staff...I really like the Boldin trade, especially since we gave up only a sixth round pick
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
We can all hope that P. Carroll uses him as effectively as he was used on the Vikings where, when they beat the Niners last season, Ponder had one of his best days and Harvin torched the Niners for an amazing zero touchdowns.

Didn't he have like 175 total yards though.
Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by GNielsen:
We can all hope that P. Carroll uses him as effectively as he was used on the Vikings where, when they beat the Niners last season, Ponder had one of his best days and Harvin torched the Niners for an amazing zero touchdowns.

Didn't he have like 175 total yards though.
According to the box score, he had nine receptions for 89 yards and no TD's. So, he was effective, but it's not like he torched the Niners or anything like that. He also had three KO returns for decent yardage, so maybe that's where you got the total yards. Hey, he's good. No question about it. But, IMO, they paid too much for him and they are taking a huge gamble mainly because of his injury history and, shall we say, his commitment to the game. He's a quick cutter going to a cold, wet, slippery artificial surface for 8 games a year. He's been known to miss games because of a headache. A headache??!!
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by GNielsen:
We can all hope that P. Carroll uses him as effectively as he was used on the Vikings where, when they beat the Niners last season, Ponder had one of his best days and Harvin torched the Niners for an amazing zero touchdowns.

Didn't he have like 175 total yards though.
According to the box score, he had nine receptions for 89 yards and no TD's. So, he was effective, but it's not like he torched the Niners or anything like that. He also had three KO returns for decent yardage, so maybe that's where you got the total yards. Hey, he's good. No question about it. But, IMO, they paid too much for him and they are taking a huge gamble mainly because of his injury history and, shall we say, his commitment to the game. He's a quick cutter going to a cold, wet, slippery artificial surface for 8 games a year. He's been known to miss games because of a headache. A headache??!!

He hasn't had a migraine in two years And was in the conversation for MVP at one point last season. Baalke also wanted him. In Baalke We trust.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/migraines-no-longer-a-concern-for-percy-harvin/
Tavon Austin <<<<<< Harvin. They would have had to use a 1st anyway to get a similar player that's not proven. Harvin's still very young. 24 I think.

And That total yards does include kickoff returns because he's one of the best in the league at it. (Top 2 or 3)
[ Edited by KID9R on Mar 16, 2013 at 7:57 PM ]
Originally posted by KID9R:
He hasn't had a migraine in two years And was in the conversation for MVP at one point last season. Baalke also wanted him. In Baalke We trust.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/migraines-no-longer-a-concern-for-percy-harvin/
Tavon Austin <<<<<< Harvin. They would have had to use a 1st anyway to get a similar player that's not proven. Harvin's still very young. 24 I think.

Like I said on the other thread, re-read the article and think about it. The Seahawks just dropped a first round pick and 30 or 40 million over the next four years on the player in that article. Reading the article, I'd be a little nervous about my team gambling that much on the player in that article.
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by KID9R:
He hasn't had a migraine in two years And was in the conversation for MVP at one point last season. Baalke also wanted him. In Baalke We trust.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/migraines-no-longer-a-concern-for-percy-harvin/
Tavon Austin <<<<<< Harvin. They would have had to use a 1st anyway to get a similar player that's not proven. Harvin's still very young. 24 I think.

Like I said on the other thread, re-read the article and think about it. The Seahawks just dropped a first round pick and 30 or 40 million over the next four years on the player in that article. Reading the article, I'd be a little nervous about my team gambling that much on the player in that article.

But but but Baalke wanted him. In Baalke we Trust?
Originally posted by KID9R:
But but but Baalke wanted him. In Baalke we Trust?

And you know that how? Isn't it possible that again, you're not giving Baalke credit for knowing what he's doing. I don't know what he's doing. I can only guess. And if I had to guess, I would say there is at least the possibility that the Niners expressed interest in Harvin to help drive his price up. After all, it's been five years since they spent any serious money on a free agent. That doesn't seem to be the way they work. Maybe Baalke and Harbaugh were playing the Seahawks. We don't know. They did, after all, get a receiver who will be nails all season, a receiver who was lights out in the playoffs, a very tough competitor who fights for every reception, and they got him for a sixth round pick. Some would call that better value and smarter shopping.
Originally posted by KID9R:
But but but Baalke wanted him. In Baalke we Trust?

Baalke wanted him at what price?
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by KID9R:
But but but Baalke wanted him. In Baalke we Trust?

And you know that how? Isn't it possible that again, you're not giving Baalke credit for knowing what he's doing. I don't know what he's doing. I can only guess. And if I had to guess, I would say there is at least the possibility that the Niners expressed interest in Harvin to help drive his price up. After all, it's been five years since they spent any serious money on a free agent. That doesn't seem to be the way they work. Maybe Baalke and Harbaugh were playing the Seahawks. We don't know. They did, after all, get a receiver who will be nails all season, a receiver who was lights out in the playoffs, a very tough competitor who fights for every reception, and they got him for a sixth round pick. Some would call that better value and smarter shopping.

For the record I completely trust Baalke,seriously he's done nothing to make me think otherwise I'm just saying you're not giving credit for the player that Harvin is. If the Seahawks can make his salary work in their system then it is a very good move. Not for us, for them!
It's funny, because analysts seem to love this move by the Hawks to get them over the top. However, they gave up a 1st plus 2 additional picks for him and a $60 million deal. These same analysts call the Wallace to Miami deal a waste because they paid too much. Seems, for some reason, media wants the Seahawks to take over the west. Weird. I think we are a much more likable team.
Originally posted by VANiner:
It's funny, because analysts seem to love this move by the Hawks to get them over the top. However, they gave up a 1st plus 2 additional picks for him and a $60 million deal. These same analysts call the Wallace to Miami deal a waste because they paid too much. Seems, for some reason, media wants the Seahawks to take over the west. Weird. I think we are a much more likable team.

Oh no the 49ers some how are the evil of the NFL.... No idea why but for some reason people like to look at the Hawks like some special team of alter boys, I remember after the Seahawks redskins game when Sherman got b***hslapped like he deserved and they made him seem like he was some innocent child that had just been brutally abuse by his parents.
There's no "vs" there. Boldin's a has been, Harvin's a playmaker just priming.