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Is Harbaugh an excellent HC who can't win the "BIG GAME?"

Can we stop bumping this? I just did, but it's the last time I'll be posting in this ridiculous thread. Just let it die already.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Can we stop bumping this? I just did, but it's the last time I'll be posting in this ridiculous thread. Just let it die already.

I would rather let a mod have the joy of killing this dumbass knee jerk reaction of a thread. Somebody start a fight on here.
Originally posted by LoneWolf:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Can we stop bumping this? I just did, but it's the last time I'll be posting in this ridiculous thread. Just let it die already.

I would rather let a mod have the joy of killing this dumbass knee jerk reaction of a thread. Somebody start a fight on here.

I'm trying. See my last post, I edited it for your viewing pleasure
Originally posted by ninermedic:
are you sure bc I heard a story that when jim and john were growing up there dad was trying to teach them about footballs and he sat them on his lap and he said "listen up sons I'm fixing to teach you how to win the big game" and john was good and listened but jim said "no pop not I'm fixin to listen I don't ever want to win the big game" and he never did

LMAO of course Jim was screaming instead about John not letting him have the ball. Such a damn crybaby.
Originally posted by Ballistic:
lockworthy

derpy short bus worthy
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Can we stop bumping this? I just did, but it's the last time I'll be posting in this ridiculous thread. Just let it die already.

When he wins the big game I will be happy. So far on the biggest stages he has come up short. The WZ love for him as compared to Sing and Nolan is what drives this. But objectively he has failed in big games both college and pro. Will it get corrected? Time will tell.

Because you WZers love him does not mean we can never, ever question anything about him. I like him too. I wish he would do better in big games.
we must have the most unhappy little children of fans it seems, no trust at all, and complaining at every single stop of the road. Every move is critized and every play called is under judgement, When will they shut up and go back in their caves. Its almost like they want us to lose.
Member Milestone: This is post number 200 for 4t9ers.
Originally posted by Beeker:
Originally posted by ninermedic:
Will Jim Harbaugh win the super bowl? an objective look at the data says no. just because he won 27 games (including playoffs) in his first two seasons. so what. he didn't win a super bowl. good coaches like john harbaugh and tom coughlin won the super bowl each of their first two years. JH didn't. bill walsh won the super bowl every year he coached. JH hasn't won any. he has had a full 37 games to win the super bowl and he hasn't. he chokes so hard we won't even know for another year whether he has another shot at winning one. case closed.

1979 (2-14)
Bill Walsh, Coach

1980 (6-10)
Bill Walsh, Coach

1981 (13-3/16-3)
NFC West Champions – World Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

1982 (3-6)
Bill Walsh, Coach

1983 (10-6/11-7)
NFC West Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

1984 (15-1/18-1)
NFC West Champions – World Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

1985 (10-6/10-7)
Bill Walsh, Coach

1986 (10-5-1/10-6-1)
NFC West Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

1987 (13-2/13-3)
NFC West Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach


1988 (10-6/13-6)
NFC West Champions – World Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

Bill Walsh didn't even win the DIVISION every year he coached. In his first 3 years he was 24 - 27 as head coach. 8 - 24 his first 2 years.


i love how this is an argument FOR JH, when i reality, its the exact reason SD, others, and i myself included are concerned.

Bill is the best coach in our history - hands down. he coached in a dynasty encouraged era with having no salary cap. most of his teams were more talent rich than some whole divisions in todays era-

and yet, HE COULDNT EVEN WIN THE DIVISION EVERY YEAR!

so why is it, that 99% Zoners seem to think hes gonna win a Super Bowl?

esp when the odds are against us getting back to the Super Bowl coupled with the FACT he was just in a Super Bowl and LOST?




IDK, maybe Zoners think JH > BW?
  • cciowa
  • Veteran
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
we must have the most unhappy little children of fans it seems, no trust at all, and complaining at every single stop of the road. Every move is critized and every play called is under judgement, When will they shut up and go back in their caves. Its almost like they want us to lose.

have you seen the free agency thread as of late in the forum? i am not sure about the head coach but some of the children are gathering the lighted torches to drive out the evil cheap front office because we did not over pay for 37 year old charles woodson or over pay for Nn the x philly corner
All we have to do is not bump it and it will die a slow, quiet death. That's the last time I post on this miserable excuse for a thread.
Originally posted by 4t9ers:
Originally posted by Beeker:
Originally posted by ninermedic:
Will Jim Harbaugh win the super bowl? an objective look at the data says no. just because he won 27 games (including playoffs) in his first two seasons. so what. he didn't win a super bowl. good coaches like john harbaugh and tom coughlin won the super bowl each of their first two years. JH didn't. bill walsh won the super bowl every year he coached. JH hasn't won any. he has had a full 37 games to win the super bowl and he hasn't. he chokes so hard we won't even know for another year whether he has another shot at winning one. case closed.

1979 (2-14)
Bill Walsh, Coach

1980 (6-10)
Bill Walsh, Coach

1981 (13-3/16-3)
NFC West Champions – World Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

1982 (3-6)
Bill Walsh, Coach

1983 (10-6/11-7)
NFC West Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

1984 (15-1/18-1)
NFC West Champions – World Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

1985 (10-6/10-7)
Bill Walsh, Coach

1986 (10-5-1/10-6-1)
NFC West Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

1987 (13-2/13-3)
NFC West Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach


1988 (10-6/13-6)
NFC West Champions – World Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

Bill Walsh didn't even win the DIVISION every year he coached. In his first 3 years he was 24 - 27 as head coach. 8 - 24 his first 2 years.


i love how this is an argument FOR JH, when i reality, its the exact reason SD, others, and i myself included are concerned.

Bill is the best coach in our history - hands down. he coached in a dynasty encouraged era with having no salary cap. most of his teams were more talent rich than some whole divisions in todays era-

and yet, HE COULDNT EVEN WIN THE DIVISION EVERY YEAR!

so why is it, that 99% Zoners seem to think hes gonna win a Super Bowl?

esp when the odds are against us getting back to the Super Bowl coupled with the FACT he was just in a Super Bowl and LOST?




IDK, maybe Zoners think JH > BW?

  • buck
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Second season and 2 years in a row we were 1 play away from beating the champion and winning the super bowl. I would say Jim is on pace to do a great job here. John just got lucky this year.

I'm not saying he is doing bad. He's good. But the big games he seems to fall apart. Or at least his teams do so far.


Why do ask these questions?

I am actually curious.

Sometimes, it just seems that you have an incredibly negative view of the team, or maybe the world in general.

But, whatever.

My answer is no he is not an excellent coach who is incapable of winning the big.

And no the window is not closed or closing.
[ Edited by buck on Mar 18, 2013 at 01:54:41 ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Can we stop bumping this? I just did, but it's the last time I'll be posting in this ridiculous thread. Just let it die already.

When he wins the big game I will be happy. So far on the biggest stages he has come up short. The WZ love for him as compared to Sing and Nolan is what drives this. But objectively he has failed in big games both college and pro. Will it get corrected? Time will tell.

Because you WZers love him does not mean we can never, ever question anything about him. I like him too. I wish he would do better in big games.
LOL. Too bad you didn't follow your own advise while you were defending a certain QB that shall not be named.
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Second season and 2 years in a row we were 1 play away from beating the champion and winning the super bowl. I would say Jim is on pace to do a great job here. John just got lucky this year.

I'm not saying he is doing bad. He's good. But the big games he seems to fall apart. Or at least his teams do so far.


Why do ask these questions?

I am actually curious.

Sometimes, it just seems that you have an incredibly negative view of the team, or maybe the world in general.

But, whatever.

My answer is no he is not an excellent coach who is incapable of winning the big.

And no the window is not closed or closing.

I think you are probably right and I hope for the best. He has done very amazing things so far. I just want to win the really big games eventually.
Originally posted by ninermedic:
Originally posted by leebert81:
Originally posted by Beeker:
Originally posted by ninermedic:
Will Jim Harbaugh win the super bowl? an objective look at the data says no. just because he won 27 games (including playoffs) in his first two seasons. so what. he didn't win a super bowl. good coaches like john harbaugh and tom coughlin won the super bowl each of their first two years. JH didn't. bill walsh won the super bowl every year he coached. JH hasn't won any. he has had a full 37 games to win the super bowl and he hasn't. he chokes so hard we won't even know for another year whether he has another shot at winning one. case closed.

1979 (2-14)
Bill Walsh, Coach

1980 (6-10)
Bill Walsh, Coach

1981 (13-3/16-3)
NFC West Champions – World Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

1982 (3-6)
Bill Walsh, Coach

1983 (10-6/11-7)
NFC West Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

1984 (15-1/18-1)
NFC West Champions – World Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

1985 (10-6/10-7)
Bill Walsh, Coach

1986 (10-5-1/10-6-1)
NFC West Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

1987 (13-2/13-3)
NFC West Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach


1988 (10-6/13-6)
NFC West Champions – World Champions
Bill Walsh, Coach

Bill Walsh didn't even win the DIVISION every year he coached. In his first 3 years he was 24 - 27 as head coach. 8 - 24 his first 2 years.
Seriously?? I think he was being sarcastic. Not too hard to see what he was doing. Pointing out the absurdity of this thread by being absurd.

are you sure bc I heard a story that when jim and john were growing up there dad was trying to teach them about footballs and he sat them on his lap and he said "listen up sons I'm fixing to teach you how to win the big game" and john was good and listened but jim said "no pop not I'm fixin to listen I don't ever want to win the big game" and he never did
Hmmm. You may be right. I must have missed that write up.