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Glenn Dorsey is a better 3-4 DE than McDonald

Originally posted by Jakemall:
Regardless of his being equal or better to Mac, he resolves the problem we had last season...we have someone worth rotating in our DL. If Smith and Mac can rotate out with this guy then we have a fresh front line at all times...Aldon is in for a great year next season again. What's more we reduce the odds of last season happening again.

If Justin was healthy in the superbowl we win that game. Our defense fell apart without him.


Aldon needs someone to spell him once in a while too.
McDonald is a better DE than Dorsey. Dorsey's best position is DT in a 4-3 scheme, playing the 3-technique. Sounds like he'll play some NT for the 49ers....probably 1 gap responsibility?
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Regardless of his being equal or better to Mac, he resolves the problem we had last season...we have someone worth rotating in our DL. If Smith and Mac can rotate out with this guy then we have a fresh front line at all times...Aldon is in for a great year next season again. What's more we reduce the odds of last season happening again.

If Justin was healthy in the superbowl we win that game. Our defense fell apart without him.


Aldon needs someone to spell him once in a while too.


Thinking either Parys or one of our PS guys will start to rotate in.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Thinking either Parys or one of our PS guys will start to rotate in.
If we draft an NT that can play right away, or if Ian Williams steps up in a big way, Dorsey may take RayMac's spot on 1st downs to keep Mac fresh since he's the superior pass rusher
VERY good article on Dorsey!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1567927-exploring-the-fit-between-the-san-francisco-49ers-and-glenn-dorsey?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=san-francisco-49ers
Glenn Dorkey ?
McDonald is a better DE than Dorsey. Dorsey's best position is DT in a 4-3 scheme, playing the 3-technique. Sounds like he'll play some NT for the 49ers....probably 1 gap responsibility?


Agreed. I'm cautiously optimistic about this signing because because of this. If you're playing a 3-4, you need a monster NT. 6-3 350 type to clog the whole middle. I liked Sopoaga because of his size. Dorsey's a bit short and plays at 300 supposedly. I'd take him at 315 with the right kind of weight added. I don't think he should be DE for us. McDonald's very solid IMO, we should draft another NT and DE in the first 4 rounds and really solidify that DL.
Dorsey was considered a can't miss prospect coming out of LSU. He has not turned into the pro-bowl player he was projected to be. Different schemes every year, ton of coaching and executive turn over in KC contributed to that. But he is considered, at worst, one of the best run stoppers at DT and the LBs playing behind him made the pro bowl.

McDonald was not as highly touted coming out, but has blossomed the last two years under a superb coaching staff.

If the roles were reversed I doubt anyone would be saying McDonald is the better player. I think Dorsey will benefit greatly from our coaching staff. He has more talent around him and will be put in a well-established system. He has huge upside. We have seen the best player McDonald can be. I don't think the NFL has seen the best player Dorsey can be. We will with the 49ers.
Originally posted by Overkill:
The NT talk is surprising and so is the talk of him replacing Ray Mac.

We only asked Soap to play 30% of the snaps last year, so if Dorsey could prove marginally effective at that while rotating with Smith at the RDT spot in our nickle & dime sets, than great. We also have a Ian Williams and potentially a high draft pick at NT if Doresy doesn't look good there. At worst, I see him rotating with Smith at the RDE/RDT spots to make sure Cowboy has enough juice at the end of the season. That will only help Aldon and the pass defense late in the year.

It might also add another year to Justin's career. If not, his replacement will be familiar with the system and already on the roster. Not that you can really replace Cowboy.

Maybe they figure he won't be as disruptive as Justin, but at least maybe he can hold blockers just as well. Give Aldon some more space.

Fairly indifferent to the signing. Pretty inconsistent player in his career, hurt a lot. Coming off the bench would as the first guy rotating would make quite a bit of sense. I don't see him as a great NT although he's probably not going to be a terrible one either. More active, but he might be more prone to giving up space when going up against 2 guys.

I guess we'll see.
Originally posted by lordsilva25:
Glenn Dorkey ?

Ken Dorsey
Also, this guy obviously can benefit here if he works with Justin, Ray Mac and Uwe by getting in 49er shape along with the excellent coaching he will receive. We have had several DL cash in recently that weren't necessarily highly regarded. Aubrayo, Soap, and RJF. Dorsey definitely sees an opportunity to get better and I think this is what draws free agents aside from the money. Can a coaching staff make me better and immerse me in a culture of winning and give me an opportunity to do something great?
We got a steal with signing Glenn Dorsey. I wanted him for the Niners when he came out of LSU. With Jim Tomsula coaching him up he'll reach his full potential with us.
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Originally posted by lordsilva25:
Glenn Dorkey ?

Ken Dorsey

Ken Dorsey $ucked donkey. Not to be confused with Glenn Dorsey.
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Originally posted by Jakemall:
Thinking either Parys or one of our PS guys will start to rotate in.

parys is a mystery, now maybe i missed something but what did we do with him? i think we still own him 3 million? I do not think we have cut him. i did not read he took a pay cut. is that one of those infamous things that is happening behind the scene? i think we will be much better in regards to this issue. even if parys does not come back, we will draft a outside linebacker and we have the two kids we picked last year that were hurt and did not contribute,, i have high hopes for those guys this coming year along with looney the offensive guy with the busted foot and of course jenkins... i have to have high hopes for those guys because the alternative makes me upset in regards to that draft last year
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Originally posted by Wrathman:
Ken Dorsey $ucked donkey. Not to be confused with Glenn Dorsey.

tommy dorsey and jimmy dorsey were good big band leaders, they were brothers and hated each other but thats a whole other story
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