Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Knowing he's pretty much a one-year rental who's coming off knee surgery, the Jets aren't going to get great value for him. If they would take our low 2nd (#63) and a 4th next year, I'd do it. His 2013 cap number is only $6M (that's less than Carlos Rogers' cap figure!)...to put that in perspective, by releasing David Akers (already done) and Parys Haralson (hopefully next), Revis is already paid for.
Even if Revis wanted to be a rental, which he has already said he does not, we don't know what kind of player we are getting for that one year. We are throwing away cheap labor with those draft picks. Cheap labor is everything. If we don't have cheap labor, it means we have to go out and find free agents to replace the cheap labor.
This is exactly like last year with the Nnamdi stuff. I really don't understand it, don't people want to keep the players we already have? Don't people LIKE the players we have? Crabtree, Iupati, Aldon, Kap, A Davis? We will LOSE a bunch of them if we: A: Lose draft picks, and/or B: Pay for big name free agents. Doing either ONE of those things is bad, but doing both? Why not just drive the team bus off a cliff? That will be just about as damaging to the team.
I understand some just want the one year rental, but we would have to lose critical draft picks, just to have a guy who may or may not be the same player for ONE lousy year. This is not Deion Sanders folks, this is not 1994, and Revis is not healthy. He is injurerd, badly. We need those draft picks, badly.
I didn't suggest we throw the entire draft away. I said, one low 2nd and something in 2014. With our projected compensatory picks, we'll have 15 picks in total....that's almost double what most teams will have this year.
And it's not Revis' choice to be a rental or not. Whether he gets traded or not, he has one year left on his deal at a very reasonable price. No team, not even the Jets, are going to give him an extension until they see him playing at the level he used to play at, so he's out of luck no matter what in terms of signing a long-term deal before the season starts.
So do we need our picks badly? Sort of. We actually don't have 15 open roster spots so we won't be using all of our draft picks anyway. But to trade JUST ONE of our 2013 picks for a potential shut down corner as we make a Super Bowl run, I seriously don't see the downside in it. Revis should be ready to go by training camp, and by mid-way in the season, should be back to normal playing speed (heck, Adrian Peterson came back even quicker than that).
I see almost no downside to giving up JUST ONE of our 2013 picks from our total of 15 to land a player like Revis. I think you're overstating the whole "cheap labor" thing considering how many picks we have and how many roster spots are actually open. I also think you're overstating his injury; it's fairly common now for players to return from the surgery he had. Yes, it's absolutely possible that he may never return to full health and be the player he was....absolutely correct about that. And if I didn't have a whole boatload of picks to work with, I wouldn't give them up and take that gamble either.
But we do have a boatload of picks, 5 of them in the top 100 to be exact. So giving up just one of those (knowing I'd have 10 more in the next 4 rounds) on a 27 year-old corner who (when healthy) is considered the games best, isn't much of a gamble at all. Also, take a look at Peyton Manning...many on this board didn't want to touch him because of the neck injury. I think he showed a lot of people what a determined athlete who has something to prove, can do. Knowing Revis is a free agent in 2014, you have to believe he'll put everything he can into his rehab and into getting back to top form in 2013.
And what if he doesn't regain his form? Even though we gave up a late 2nd (#63), we could still use that early 2nd (#34 overall) to land a top CB JUST IN CASE Revis isn't the same player....and we'd still have Brown, Culliver, Rogers, Cox and Brock (the group that we got to the Super Bowl with) to handle the CB duties in the event Revis isn't capable and the rookie CB isn't ready. I'm not sure one can cover his bases any better than that.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Mar 8, 2013 at 09:40:55 ]