Originally posted by CRABTREE:
Do it! We Dont need 15 picks! Trade 2 PICKS For THE BEST CB
But IS HE still THE BEST CB? We don't know. I would say probably, but, until he's back at however close he gets to 100%, we don't KNOW.
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Originally posted by CRABTREE:
Do it! We Dont need 15 picks! Trade 2 PICKS For THE BEST CB
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Dont know why everyone is so high on all these draft picks. We're not rebuilding. And I dont buy the "build for the future" hype. If we had won the last 2 SBs, then Id be all for the status quo and building for a dynasty. But the reality here is that we're NOT a dynasty, and in today's league full of parity, it's easy for teams to fall apart in a frame of 2-3 years. The goal is to win ONE first, then think about the future. At this point, Revis is a better option at winning the SB next year than any draft choice we will pick late in the first / early 2nd. And this is taking into consideration that neither of those 2 picks are necessarily required to make a trade for him.
I say we give up a couple picks for him, and see how he pans out. It could turn out to be a foil, but what if does actually return to form (as expected) ? With our explosive offense, this team will be very tough to beat.
Draft picks = cheap labor = more super stars on the team.
Free agents = expensive labor = fewer super stars on the team.
It's like that Capitol One commercial. "Who wouldn't want 50% more cash?" Except instead of cash, it's star players.
No guarantee that one of those draft picks becomes a superstar. More specific, very small chance that said draft picks become instant contributors to an already beefed roster. All Im saying is that this team is not in rebuild mode. Neither are we short in major facets of the team. What we need is to plug holes to shore up some weak spots. This is where guys like Revis can play a major role of a roster. If this was 2005-2007 and we were going after Revis (like we did Clements), then Im with the masses -- we had bigger needs at that time. But what we have here is a SB team that got burned in the last 6 weeks bc the dline / corners couldnt consistently do their jobs. If you have an opportunity to fix one of these weaknesses (and I acknowledge that its a risk, but only a ONE year risk), why not give up a couple picks knowing that we have a boatload more in the treasure trunk ?
Originally posted by Beeker:
Check this one out:
http://www.nfl.com/photos/0ap1000000147634/0ap2000000147595
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
No.
~ Injured leg.
~ Huge salary.
~ Hasn't played like his peak in a while.
~ No guarantee he ever regains that form.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Dont know why everyone is so high on all these draft picks. We're not rebuilding. And I dont buy the "build for the future" hype. If we had won the last 2 SBs, then Id be all for the status quo and building for a dynasty. But the reality here is that we're NOT a dynasty, and in today's league full of parity, it's easy for teams to fall apart in a frame of 2-3 years. The goal is to win ONE first, then think about the future. At this point, Revis is a better option at winning the SB next year than any draft choice we will pick late in the first / early 2nd. And this is taking into consideration that neither of those 2 picks are necessarily required to make a trade for him.
I say we give up a couple picks for him, and see how he pans out. It could turn out to be a foil, but what if does actually return to form (as expected) ? With our explosive offense, this team will be very tough to beat.
Draft picks = cheap labor = more super stars on the team.
Free agents = expensive labor = fewer super stars on the team.
It's like that Capitol One commercial. "Who wouldn't want 50% more cash?" Except instead of cash, it's star players.
Originally posted by Beeker:
Check this one out:
http://www.nfl.com/photos/0ap1000000147634/0ap2000000147595
Originally posted by gunslinger8:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Dont know why everyone is so high on all these draft picks. We're not rebuilding. And I dont buy the "build for the future" hype. If we had won the last 2 SBs, then Id be all for the status quo and building for a dynasty. But the reality here is that we're NOT a dynasty, and in today's league full of parity, it's easy for teams to fall apart in a frame of 2-3 years. The goal is to win ONE first, then think about the future. At this point, Revis is a better option at winning the SB next year than any draft choice we will pick late in the first / early 2nd. And this is taking into consideration that neither of those 2 picks are necessarily required to make a trade for him.
I say we give up a couple picks for him, and see how he pans out. It could turn out to be a foil, but what if does actually return to form (as expected) ? With our explosive offense, this team will be very tough to beat.
Draft picks = cheap labor = more super stars on the team.
Free agents = expensive labor = fewer super stars on the team.
It's like that Capitol One commercial. "Who wouldn't want 50% more cash?" Except instead of cash, it's star players.
Especially since last years draft picks were such a HUGE part of our success. Lets keep drafting for the bench.....
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Dont know why everyone is so high on all these draft picks. We're not rebuilding. And I dont buy the "build for the future" hype. If we had won the last 2 SBs, then Id be all for the status quo and building for a dynasty. But the reality here is that we're NOT a dynasty, and in today's league full of parity, it's easy for teams to fall apart in a frame of 2-3 years. The goal is to win ONE first, then think about the future. At this point, Revis is a better option at winning the SB next year than any draft choice we will pick late in the first / early 2nd. And this is taking into consideration that neither of those 2 picks are necessarily required to make a trade for him.
I say we give up a couple picks for him, and see how he pans out. It could turn out to be a foil, but what if does actually return to form (as expected) ? With our explosive offense, this team will be very tough to beat.
Draft picks = cheap labor = more super stars on the team.
Free agents = expensive labor = fewer super stars on the team.
It's like that Capitol One commercial. "Who wouldn't want 50% more cash?" Except instead of cash, it's star players.
No guarantee that one of those draft picks becomes a superstar. More specific, very small chance that said draft picks become instant contributors to an already beefed roster. All Im saying is that this team is not in rebuild mode. Neither are we short in major facets of the team. What we need is to plug holes to shore up some weak spots. This is where guys like Revis can play a major role of a roster. If this was 2005-2007 and we were going after Revis (like we did Clements), then Im with the masses -- we had bigger needs at that time. But what we have here is a SB team that got burned in the last 6 weeks bc the dline / corners couldnt consistently do their jobs. If you have an opportunity to fix one of these weaknesses (and I acknowledge that its a risk, but only a ONE year risk), why not give up a couple picks knowing that we have a boatload more in the treasure trunk ?
It's not even that these draft picks will turn into superstars, they might but it is not a given. It's that they will be much cheaper and will allow us more money to keep our already proven stars.
It's been mentioned a lot around the board that in next couple years we will have a lot of big names to resign, such as Iupati, AD, T brown, Aldon, Kap etc. Revis is going to want big time money and I would rather that go to resigning the previous mentioned players than a busted up Revis.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Knowing he's pretty much a one-year rental who's coming off knee surgery, the Jets aren't going to get great value for him. If they would take our low 2nd (#63) and a 4th next year, I'd do it. His 2013 cap number is only $6M (that's less than Carlos Rogers' cap figure!)...to put that in perspective, by releasing David Akers (already done) and Parys Haralson (hopefully next), Revis is already paid for.
Originally posted by mayo49:
I wouldn't touch Revis. Bad knee and bad attitude is a bad combination.
Originally posted by mayo49:
I wouldn't touch Revis. Bad knee and bad attitude is a bad combination.