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Culliver to Safety?

I kinda feel like Culliver is too small to play safety. I thought he did well at CB last season. I think he lost his head in the Super Bowl but I don't see that happening again.
Again...not saying we should, but Cully is big enough to play Free. Strong maybe not.
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
I kinda like it, to be honest. Draft a good CB at # 34 or # 61 ( Banks--Poyer--Taylor--Alford--Slay) and move Culliver to S.

Or draft a top safety at # 34 or # 61 ( Swearinger--Reid--Thomas--Cyprien ) and keep Cully at CB.

I can dig either scenario..

( really still don't like Rogers playing NCB though )

Thank you! The problem with Culliver is that he's a physial CB who doesn't play for Seattle. He plays for us...and gets flagged. The other bigger problem is that he obviously has trouble tracking the ball in the air and then making a play on it as it arrives. If you move him to FS, he now has everything in front of him...with his speed, range, the time to track balls in the air as they arrive, his physical mentality, etc. he could end up becoming THE FS we have lacked for so long. That said, we need a serious upgrade at SS as well. Whitner gave up 8 TD's last year and all big ones. He BLOWS in coverage in the RZ/EZ...TE's and WR's just push him off like nothing. He's short. I was hoping we could sign Goldson and move him to SS and release Whitner but who knows now.

We also seem to have some depth with Robinson, McBath and Cox. Now you add in all these draft picks as well with a draft deep in CB and S and we could see a very different secondary next year...one with range, speed and coverage ability; young with upside. Vic plays a vanilla scheme anyhow so a signing like Revis could work two-fold for a young group here.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
I kinda like it, to be honest. Draft a good CB at # 34 or # 61 ( Banks--Poyer--Taylor--Alford--Slay) and move Culliver to S.

Or draft a top safety at # 34 or # 61 ( Swearinger--Reid--Thomas--Cyprien ) and keep Cully at CB.

I can dig either scenario..

( really still don't like Rogers playing NCB though )

Thank you! The problem with Culliver is that he's a physial CB who doesn't play for Seattle. He plays for us...and gets flagged. The other bigger problem is that he obviously has trouble tracking the ball in the air and then making a play on it as it arrives. If you move him to FS, he now has everything in front of him...with his speed, range, the time to track balls in the air as they arrive, his physical mentality, etc. he could end up becoming THE FS we have lacked for so long. That said, we need a serious upgrade at SS as well. Whitner gave up 8 TD's last year and all big ones. He BLOWS in coverage in the RZ/EZ...TE's and WR's just push him off like nothing. He's short. I was hoping we could sign Goldson and move him to SS and release Whitner but who knows now.

We also seem to have some depth with Robinson, McBath and Cox. Now you add in all these draft picks as well with a draft deep in CB and S and we could see a very different secondary next year...one with range, speed and coverage ability; young with upside. Vic plays a vanilla scheme anyhow so a signing like Revis could work two-fold for a young group here.

Yep. Really wanted to tag Goldson (unless he'll take a reasonable deal) and shift him to SS. Trade or cut Whitner to gain back 4 mil on the cap. Slide Culliver to FS and give him the full offseason to sharpen his safety skills of old... and then draft another CB within the first 4 rds of a thick and talented CB class.

Madden-esque? Eh.. perhaps... but a truly viable solution that could easily boost our pass defense.

( or instead of bothering with Goldson... as it seems he is as good as gone.. move Culliver to FS and then draft a top prospect like Swearinger or Reid to battle Spillman for the starting SS job )
yup his great coverage in the super bowl impressed me enough for him to become our starting FS.
Because leaving him at corner means he wont have to cover? Seriously...I dont want to move him but thats not even an arguement...its just a backhanded way to insult the kid.
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[ Edited by PhillyNiner on Mar 5, 2013 at 12:44 PM ]
I think he'd do very well. How well is hard to say. He has a excellent work ethic and all the physical toos to succeed.

Now he has real NFL game experience. DEFINITELY worth looking into.
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
I kinda like it, to be honest. Draft a good CB at # 34 or # 61 ( Banks--Poyer--Taylor--Alford--Slay) and move Culliver to S.

Or draft a top safety at # 34 or # 61 ( Swearinger--Reid--Thomas--Cyprien ) and keep Cully at CB.

I can dig either scenario..

( really still don't like Rogers playing NCB though )

Thank you! The problem with Culliver is that he's a physial CB who doesn't play for Seattle. He plays for us...and gets flagged. The other bigger problem is that he obviously has trouble tracking the ball in the air and then making a play on it as it arrives. If you move him to FS, he now has everything in front of him...with his speed, range, the time to track balls in the air as they arrive, his physical mentality, etc. he could end up becoming THE FS we have lacked for so long. That said, we need a serious upgrade at SS as well. Whitner gave up 8 TD's last year and all big ones. He BLOWS in coverage in the RZ/EZ...TE's and WR's just push him off like nothing. He's short. I was hoping we could sign Goldson and move him to SS and release Whitner but who knows now.

We also seem to have some depth with Robinson, McBath and Cox. Now you add in all these draft picks as well with a draft deep in CB and S and we could see a very different secondary next year...one with range, speed and coverage ability; young with upside. Vic plays a vanilla scheme anyhow so a signing like Revis could work two-fold for a young group here.

Yep. Really wanted to tag Goldson (unless he'll take a reasonable deal) and shift him to SS. Trade or cut Whitner to gain back 4 mil on the cap. Slide Culliver to FS and give him the full offseason to sharpen his safety skills of old... and then draft another CB within the first 4 rds of a thick and talented CB class.

Madden-esque? Eh.. perhaps... but a truly viable solution that could easily boost our pass defense.

( or instead of bothering with Goldson... as it seems he is as good as gone.. move Culliver to FS and then draft a top prospect like Swearinger or Reid to battle Spillman for the starting SS job )

I'm all in!!! And then if Goldson comes crawling back...again...we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
I'm not saying he's a bad cb but does anyone think he'd be a better fit at FS?
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don't we have a thread on him already?
Nope, he's actually a very very good CB who got exposed in the Superbowl b/c he had ZERO safety help. In fact, IIRC, PFF had him rated as one of the best CB's during the regular season. The issue is he's a very physical and aggressive CB who plays with a mean streak. If he was playing for Seattle, in Seattle, he'd be one of the best CB's in the game b/c he'd be allowed to play physical with WR's at the LOS and aggressive throughout the WR's routes. Unfortunately he plays for us and as we saw in the Superbowl, he's called for P.I. on critical situations in which he played the same as the Raven's CB's but well within his rights and the rules. He's young. He won't get that call.

That said, IF Nnamdi beats out Rogers and we establish that aggressive style of CB culture with the refs like how Brown-stain/Dick up in Seattle, we too will be allowed to play our own game and make our own set of rules. I think with Baalke's off season moves, he'd REALLY like to get much bigger, stronger, taller and more physical/aggressive at the LOS vs. playing 15 yards off on 3rd and 5 like we currently do with Brown/Rogers.

There is also a huge issue with ALL of our DB's and their "technique" last year that was especially highlighted in the Superbowl. Our DB's don't track the QB or the ball. They are only playing the body language of the WR's and that more often than not, meant easy catches for WR's and our DB's looking embarrassing (e.g. Culliver on Boldin/Jones on punt-like passes).

The other issue is that we had horrendous coverage ability by both Goldson and esp. Whitner. IF Reid can provide ANY kind of coverage over the top and esp. along the sidelines, suddenly everyone in NT will be talking about how Culliver has really stepped up his game. LOL
he's shown many signs of being a really good cover corner. Hope he continues to progress.