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Ed Dickson's Hold on Anthony Dixon in the End Zone

Watching Mike and Mike in the Morning and they brought up something I didn't notice. In the 4th quarter when the punter held on to the ball in the end zone to run the clock down, Ed Dickson clearly held Anthony Dixon to prevent him from getting to the punter. This should have resulted a safety which would have stopped the clock with 10 seconds and given the Niners a chance to get into field goal range. Instead, it was not called and the game ended the way it did.

I know the refs were allowing them to play and non calls went both ways, but there was a ref that was in the back of the end zone and could clearly see the hold and did nothing. its b******t.
Originally posted by NinerGod:
Watching Mike and Mike in the Morning and they brought up something I didn't notice. In the 4th quarter when the punter held on to the ball in the end zone to run the clock down, Ed Dickson clearly held Anthony Dixon to prevent him from getting to the punter. This should have resulted a safety which would have stopped the clock with 10 seconds and given the Niners a chance to get into field goal range. Instead, it was not called and the game ended the way it did.

I know the refs were allowing them to play and non calls went both ways, but there was a ref that was in the back of the end zone and could clearly see the hold and did nothing. its b******t.

Time would have ran off the clock eitherway, the ref could have thrown the flag, but the play wouldn't stop until the guy with the ball was stopped, it changed absolutely nothing.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NinerGod:
Watching Mike and Mike in the Morning and they brought up something I didn't notice. In the 4th quarter when the punter held on to the ball in the end zone to run the clock down, Ed Dickson clearly held Anthony Dixon to prevent him from getting to the punter. This should have resulted a safety which would have stopped the clock with 10 seconds and given the Niners a chance to get into field goal range. Instead, it was not called and the game ended the way it did.

I know the refs were allowing them to play and non calls went both ways, but there was a ref that was in the back of the end zone and could clearly see the hold and did nothing. its b******t.

Time would have ran off the clock eitherway, the ref could have thrown the flag, but the play wouldn't stop until the guy with the ball was stopped, it changed absolutely nothing.


It would have been a safety. time would have been put back on the clock.
Yea I'm not sure if they would have put time back on the clock. Either way they just didn't play well enough to win the game. All 3 phases failed yesterday including coaching.

Originally posted by NinerGod:
It would have been a safety. time would have been put back on the clock.

You're expecting Booger to figure that out, dude's a moron, he'd screw it up anyways.

He shouldn't have been in charge of this game.
[ Edited by linkboy on Feb 4, 2013 at 7:53 AM ]
Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea I'm not sure if they would have put time back on the clock. Either way they just didn't play well enough to win the game. All 3 phases failed yesterday including coaching.

I agree with this. shouldnt have ever been in that position. i would of course like any opportunity to win though given the situation.
They don't put time back on the clock. A game cannot end on a defensive penalty, thats the only difference. It wouldn't have mattered if the ref threw a flag or not, the time still would have came off the clock.
Originally posted by NinerGod:
Watching Mike and Mike in the Morning and they brought up something I didn't notice. In the 4th quarter when the punter held on to the ball in the end zone to run the clock down, Ed Dickson clearly held Anthony Dixon to prevent him from getting to the punter. This should have resulted a safety which would have stopped the clock with 10 seconds and given the Niners a chance to get into field goal range. Instead, it was not called and the game ended the way it did.

I know the refs were allowing them to play and non calls went both ways, but there was a ref that was in the back of the end zone and could clearly see the hold and did nothing. its b******t.

Yeah, it was really really obvious. Why no challenge?
Originally posted by linkboy:
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Originally posted by NinerGod:
It would have been a safety. time would have been put back on the clock.

You're expecting Booger to figure that out, dude's a moron, he'd screw it up anyways.

He shouldn't have been in charge of this game.

agreed. the game was painful to watch on both sides.
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Originally posted by NinerGod:
Watching Mike and Mike in the Morning and they brought up something I didn't notice. In the 4th quarter when the punter held on to the ball in the end zone to run the clock down, Ed Dickson clearly held Anthony Dixon to prevent him from getting to the punter. This should have resulted a safety which would have stopped the clock with 10 seconds and given the Niners a chance to get into field goal range. Instead, it was not called and the game ended the way it did.

I know the refs were allowing them to play and non calls went both ways, but there was a ref that was in the back of the end zone and could clearly see the hold and did nothing. its b******t.
Anytime I have seen end zone holding result in a safety play continues in normal fashion. There is not an immediate whistle to blow the play dead. A penalty flag would have not saved any time. A safety by way of a holding call does not immediately stop play as the opposing team has an option to not accept the penalty in the case the outcome of the play would have been more advantageous than two points. They let the play continue, what would have happened if the punter fumbled the ball away?
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by NinerGod:
Watching Mike and Mike in the Morning and they brought up something I didn't notice. In the 4th quarter when the punter held on to the ball in the end zone to run the clock down, Ed Dickson clearly held Anthony Dixon to prevent him from getting to the punter. This should have resulted a safety which would have stopped the clock with 10 seconds and given the Niners a chance to get into field goal range. Instead, it was not called and the game ended the way it did.

I know the refs were allowing them to play and non calls went both ways, but there was a ref that was in the back of the end zone and could clearly see the hold and did nothing. its b******t.

Yeah, it was really really obvious. Why no challenge?


i dont think its reviewable
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by NinerGod:
Watching Mike and Mike in the Morning and they brought up something I didn't notice. In the 4th quarter when the punter held on to the ball in the end zone to run the clock down, Ed Dickson clearly held Anthony Dixon to prevent him from getting to the punter. This should have resulted a safety which would have stopped the clock with 10 seconds and given the Niners a chance to get into field goal range. Instead, it was not called and the game ended the way it did.

I know the refs were allowing them to play and non calls went both ways, but there was a ref that was in the back of the end zone and could clearly see the hold and did nothing. its b******t.

Yeah, it was really really obvious. Why no challenge?
You cannot challenge a penalty call or non call.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea I'm not sure if they would have put time back on the clock. Either way they just didn't play well enough to win the game. All 3 phases failed yesterday including coaching.

They wouldn't have reset the time to the beginning of the play, but they would have stopped the clock at the time of the infraction right? so that would have been enought imte for a run out of bounds and a heave ho/long field goal attempt.
Originally posted by BobS:
Originally posted by NinerGod:
Watching Mike and Mike in the Morning and they brought up something I didn't notice. In the 4th quarter when the punter held on to the ball in the end zone to run the clock down, Ed Dickson clearly held Anthony Dixon to prevent him from getting to the punter. This should have resulted a safety which would have stopped the clock with 10 seconds and given the Niners a chance to get into field goal range. Instead, it was not called and the game ended the way it did.

I know the refs were allowing them to play and non calls went both ways, but there was a ref that was in the back of the end zone and could clearly see the hold and did nothing. its b******t.
Anytime I have seen end zone holding result in a safety play continues in normal fashion. There is not an immediate whistle to blow the play dead. A penalty flag would have not saved any time. A safety by way of a holding call does not immediately stop play as the opposing team has an option to not accept the penalty in the case the outcome of the play would have been more advantageous than two points. They let the play continue, what would have happened if the punter fumbled the ball away?

i think youre right. when thinking about it i think they said more time would have been put on the clock because the niners would have been able to get to the punter 5-6 seconds faster then they did had Dixon not been held.
We would of just declined it. We accept it they kick again./thread