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Which 49er Unit are you Most Concerned about Against GB?

Which 49er Unit are you Most Concerned about Against GB?

  • VDSF
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Originally posted by redpops:
I am most concerned about Nelson vs. Rogers.


I'd switch Culliver on Nelson

I am more comfortable with rogers on jennings and brown on cobb
[ Edited by VDSF on Jan 7, 2013 at 1:18 PM ]
Cornerbacks

Defensive backs

the CBs





Um yeah.
Justin Smith's condition. They'll test him and anyone going in for him by running right at that position.
I dont see how it can be anything other than the offense.

ONly because lets be honest, i doubt our D blanks Rodgers for no scoring at all. However, they will show up, regardless of Justin Smith. Defense is still the strongest part of our team barnone, thats why i dont worry bout them too much.

I worry more about the offense. We have to score. Defense wins championships, no doubt, but if you cant score, then you'll probably lose.

I used to love that saying because if defenses hold u to 0-0, 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Then someone still needs to score.

So once again, Kaep and that unit need to score, despite what Rodgers does. We score, then we give the defense rest, keep Rodgers off the field, and run up the time. it's just that simple.
[ Edited by Jersey9er on Jan 7, 2013 at 1:50 PM ]
Originally posted by Jersey9er:
I dont see how it can be anything other than the offense.

ONly because lets be honest, i doubt our D blanks Rodgers for no scoring at all. However, they will show up, regardless of Justin Smith. Defense is still the strongest part of our team barnone, thats why i dont worry bout them too much.

I worry more about the offense. We have to score. Defense wins championships, no doubt, but if you cant score, then you'll probably lose.

I used to love that saying because if defenses hold u to 0-0, 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Then someone still needs to score.

So once again, Kaep and that unit need to score, despite what Rodgers does. We score, then we give the defense rest, keep Rodgers off the field, and run up the time. it's just that simple.
Green Bay's defense gives up an average of 21 points a game, 11th in the league. The Niners are at 17 for 2nd in the league. Bonus not-so-fun fact: Seahawks are #1 in the league - Go Falcons!
Defense, but for different reasons.

I think our D comes out fired up and gives Rodgers and Co. all kinds of fits early on. Hopefully, our offense takes advantage of this and puts up some points. The concern I have is our defensive COACH'S propensity to take the pedal off the metal, and allow teams to get back in it when hope is lost.

We saw our D lay back and allow teams like GB (week 1), Miami, NE stick around bc we went into prevent D mode. We have got to keep the intensity up by pressuring Rodgers and sgutting down the running lanes. McCarthy is excellent at the dink-and-dunk game, and if we lay back just a bit, this can start to build momentum for Rodgers like it did for Brady.

I still think we win, but we're gonna have to put our A effort in.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by Jersey9er:
I dont see how it can be anything other than the offense.

ONly because lets be honest, i doubt our D blanks Rodgers for no scoring at all. However, they will show up, regardless of Justin Smith. Defense is still the strongest part of our team barnone, thats why i dont worry bout them too much.

I worry more about the offense. We have to score. Defense wins championships, no doubt, but if you cant score, then you'll probably lose.

I used to love that saying because if defenses hold u to 0-0, 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Then someone still needs to score.

So once again, Kaep and that unit need to score, despite what Rodgers does. We score, then we give the defense rest, keep Rodgers off the field, and run up the time. it's just that simple.
Green Bay's defense gives up an average of 21 points a game, 11th in the league. The Niners are at 17 for 2nd in the league. Bonus not-so-fun fact: Seahawks are #1 in the league - Go Falcons!

Well thats a good thing then, thanks for the info. Means at the very least we should score 21 on offense. i said maybe one more to just to be on the safe side. lol
Defense. Justin Smith needs to play, but regardless, the unit needs to step up big time after the fall off since the pats' game.
Good call HudsonValley.

JH/Fangio worry me about not killing the other guy when they're down.

We have to be relentless from the first kickoff to the last whistle.
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Defense, but for different reasons.

I think our D comes out fired up and gives Rodgers and Co. all kinds of fits early on. Hopefully, our offense takes advantage of this and puts up some points. The concern I have is our defensive COACH'S propensity to take the pedal off the metal, and allow teams to get back in it when hope is lost.

We saw our D lay back and allow teams like GB (week 1), Miami, NE stick around bc we went into prevent D mode. We have got to keep the intensity up by pressuring Rodgers and sgutting down the running lanes. McCarthy is excellent at the dink-and-dunk game, and if we lay back just a bit, this can start to build momentum for Rodgers like it did for Brady.

I still think we win, but we're gonna have to put our A effort in.

Our offense needs to take advantage of the early stops. In our last game against Arizona this wasn't the case and it was a good thing it was Arizona. If it were a high powered offense like the one we are playing this week, we would've been in trouble. If we don't get going early and GB takes the crowd out of the game, it's not going to look good. We put up 16 points in the first half in our first meeting and took their crowd out of it early. We can't let them do that to us on our turf.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Good call HudsonValley.

JH/Fangio worry me about not killing the other guy when they're down.

We have to be relentless from the first kickoff to the last whistle.


Thanks.

I remember this used to be a big deal during the Mooch era, where he would take it easy on the opposition because he was friends with the coaches, players, etc.

I know thats not necessarily the case with Harbaugh, and Im also sure that Harbaugh would like nothing better than to gut a team if he has the chance to. But it seems like Fangio is too prone to lay off when we're up big, and Im not sure if its bc he's afraid of the big play by the opposing offense or he just thinks we will milk the clock enough to give the opposition no time to catchup. If it's the latter, then Im hoping lesson learned bc all 3 games (GB / MIA / NE) looked like blowouts until we let them back in it.
Originally posted by paperplanemedia:
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Defense, but for different reasons.

I think our D comes out fired up and gives Rodgers and Co. all kinds of fits early on. Hopefully, our offense takes advantage of this and puts up some points. The concern I have is our defensive COACH'S propensity to take the pedal off the metal, and allow teams to get back in it when hope is lost.

We saw our D lay back and allow teams like GB (week 1), Miami, NE stick around bc we went into prevent D mode. We have got to keep the intensity up by pressuring Rodgers and sgutting down the running lanes. McCarthy is excellent at the dink-and-dunk game, and if we lay back just a bit, this can start to build momentum for Rodgers like it did for Brady.

I still think we win, but we're gonna have to put our A effort in.

Our offense needs to take advantage of the early stops. In our last game against Arizona this wasn't the case and it was a good thing it was Arizona. If it were a high powered offense like the one we are playing this week, we would've been in trouble. If we don't get going early and GB takes the crowd out of the game, it's not going to look good. We put up 16 points in the first half in our first meeting and took their crowd out of it early. We can't let them do that to us on our turf.


The problem here is how JH manages this offense. As the season has progressed, Im starting to doubt the notion that Harbaugh just "decided" to open up the playbook and let Kaep beat teams with his big arm, and in essence restricted Alex Smith bc he lacked one. Im actually convinced that the Kaep offense was the real offense by design; it was Alex's hesitancy to open it up that allowed us to control the clock with safe, short passes. This was a HUGE advantage for us in Week 1, as his slow progressive drives ate up the majority of clock and left Rodgers watching. Kaep, on the other hand, plays for the kill. NE is a prime example. Even when A.Smith INTd Brady with the score 24-3, look what happens on the next play. Kaep throws a dart down the seam to Crabtree for a TD.

My only fear is that if we make this into a shootout, the odds are HEAVY favored towards Rodgers. The more snaps/opportunities he gets, the warmer he gets....the more comfortable he gets....the more dangerous he gets. Kaep is an up and coming QB, but he's more likely to make a late game mistake than Rodgers. All the more reason I HOPE that we go back to classic smash mouth run-run-pass football this Saturday.

Clock management and the run game will be ESSENTIAL for a victory. Kape's main focus this game, ironically, is to be a game manager and not a game winner. Keep the TOs to a mimimum, convert the 3rd downs, and let Gore/LMJ eat the clock. Keep Rodgers off the field.
  1. Kickers
  2. D-Line
  3. Secondary
  4. QB
We break Rodgers, we break the whole team.
My greatest concern is with the offense: an inexperienced QB going against Dom Capers defensive schemes which are some of the toughest to read in the league. Also, with Vernon Davis continuing to be invisible, only Michael Crabtree is a legit starting receiver on this team. That puts a lot of pressure on Frank Gore at a time that BJ Ragi and the Packer interior DL is playing very well. If the 49ers cannot run, the offense will be stymied.