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NFC West Champs! 2nd seed!! (End of Reg Season)

Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Matt Barrows ‏@mattbarrows
Michael Crabtree is 67 yards from becoming the first #49ers pass catcher to reach 1,000 receiving yards since Terrell Owens did it in 2003.


c'mmon king crab


lets go Crabs!!!


He WILL get it.

My nigha Crabs owns Pat Peterson
Come on Crabs!!! You can do it!!
Originally posted by Afrikan:
So has anyone else ignored ESPN and NFL Network (especially that b1tch Heath Evens) this week?

I have and all I can say is....



is kurt warner a b**tch too?
Originally posted by mayo49:
Yes.

I think you seriously get checked out.
Originally posted by Jersey9er:
Steve Young article.... I think it's a pretty cool idea going back to the chicago gameplan. Was funnyas hell with the Alex-Smith like comment (and i didnt make that up, he actually said it, so this doesnt turn into a Qb debating comment)
http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2012/12/inside-the-49ers/steve-young-if-i-was-the-coach-i-would-immediately-go-to-the-game-plan-from-chicago/

STEVE YOUNG: They got beat up. They got pounded. I was disappointed. Late in the year, great teams don't allow that. Earlier in the year, I can see championship teams having struggles in September and early Octorber – just get obliterated in one game and go, "Ok, we learned our lesson there." But in late December, a championship team getting blown up in the division, the more I talk about it the more alarmed I'm getting.

The Seahawks kind of bullied them. And the 49ers have been the bully. The 49ers, in my mind, what makes them great is they can come out in tight formations, goal line formations and push people around and dictate terms. I thought the 49ers holistically were the team most able to do that around the league. I thought this was the team that wouldn't get bullied, and they got bullied and bloodied and they didn't respond. They got hurt early, which you kind of figure. Go into Seattle, the noise, young quarterback – we might get hurt early. Block the field goal. OK, now we respond. But we never saw the response.

Q: How should the 49ers adjust going forward?

STEVE YOUNG: If I was the coach, I would immediately go to the game plan from Chicago. Tight formations. Bully them with the running game. Colin can get outside on boots and play actions. Cut the field in half deep-to-short. Don't read sideline-to-sideline, especially now that we've lost receivers. Crabtree can be out wide. There are no three-receiver sets that I feel comfortable with, but I wish I could because I would love to put Colin in that spot.

But let's go back. The first couple of games – Chicago, even New Orleans – it was Alex-Smith-like in a way. Tight formations. Very efficient. That has to be the mantra.

If I was the coach, that's what I'd go to because I can see I'm not extending myself beyond my capabilities and my personnel. If you now demand that a young kid that has not played (A.J. Jenkins) and Randy Moss go play in three-wide-receiver sets just because Colin can do it and spread the field, I'm nervous about that.

But knowing Jim, he'll put those guys in and spread the field. I would re-trench a little bit, especially for this week.

I agree 100% been wondering why we have abandoned what made us into such an awesome power running team
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by SFTifoso:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Yes.

I think you seriously get checked out.

"....especially now that we've lost receivers."

I'm not going to lie, I think it's really cool that he still identifies as a 49er ("we").

Steve Young is the man.
[ Edited by baltien on Dec 27, 2012 at 4:29 AM ]
Go Niners and go Kaep!
Originally posted by footballxpaul:
Originally posted by Jersey9er:
Steve Young article.... I think it's a pretty cool idea going back to the chicago gameplan. Was funnyas hell with the Alex-Smith like comment (and i didnt make that up, he actually said it, so this doesnt turn into a Qb debating comment)
http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2012/12/inside-the-49ers/steve-young-if-i-was-the-coach-i-would-immediately-go-to-the-game-plan-from-chicago/

STEVE YOUNG: They got beat up. They got pounded. I was disappointed. Late in the year, great teams don't allow that. Earlier in the year, I can see championship teams having struggles in September and early Octorber – just get obliterated in one game and go, "Ok, we learned our lesson there." But in late December, a championship team getting blown up in the division, the more I talk about it the more alarmed I'm getting.

The Seahawks kind of bullied them. And the 49ers have been the bully. The 49ers, in my mind, what makes them great is they can come out in tight formations, goal line formations and push people around and dictate terms. I thought the 49ers holistically were the team most able to do that around the league. I thought this was the team that wouldn't get bullied, and they got bullied and bloodied and they didn't respond. They got hurt early, which you kind of figure. Go into Seattle, the noise, young quarterback – we might get hurt early. Block the field goal. OK, now we respond. But we never saw the response.

Q: How should the 49ers adjust going forward?

STEVE YOUNG: If I was the coach, I would immediately go to the game plan from Chicago. Tight formations. Bully them with the running game. Colin can get outside on boots and play actions. Cut the field in half deep-to-short. Don't read sideline-to-sideline, especially now that we've lost receivers. Crabtree can be out wide. There are no three-receiver sets that I feel comfortable with, but I wish I could because I would love to put Colin in that spot.

But let's go back. The first couple of games – Chicago, even New Orleans – it was Alex-Smith-like in a way. Tight formations. Very efficient. That has to be the mantra.

If I was the coach, that's what I'd go to because I can see I'm not extending myself beyond my capabilities and my personnel. If you now demand that a young kid that has not played (A.J. Jenkins) and Randy Moss go play in three-wide-receiver sets just because Colin can do it and spread the field, I'm nervous about that.

But knowing Jim, he'll put those guys in and spread the field. I would re-trench a little bit, especially for this week.

I agree 100% been wondering why we have abandoned what made us into such an awesome power running team

The takeaway I get from the Steve Young piece is that Alex Smith should be starting and the team should go back to what it did last year and for most of this year.

Instead, as Young implies, the team is spreading out the WRs and throwing the ball deep. Those deep passes aren't working so the team starts the first drive of the Seatlle game 2nd and 10 instead of 2nd and 5 with a run or short pass. This deep pass crap was never part of the West Coast offense. Sure Rice and Taylor had big pass plays but that was off mainly short passes. There was the occassional long pass but not like we saw so much last game.

Oh, and I hate the pistol offense. I think the Seakhawks figured it out and others teams will as well. Its too gimkicky for the NFL>
Originally posted by taney71:
The takeaway I get from the Steve Young piece is that Alex Smith should be starting and the team should go back to what it did last year and for most of this year.

Instead, as Young implies, the team is spreading out the WRs and throwing the ball deep. Those deep passes aren't working so the team starts the first drive of the Seatlle game 2nd and 10 instead of 2nd and 5 with a run or short pass. This deep pass crap was never part of the West Coast offense. Sure Rice and Taylor had big pass plays but that was off mainly short passes. There was the occassional long pass but not like we saw so much last game.

Oh, and I hate the pistol offense. I think the Seakhawks figured it out and others teams will as well. Its too gimkicky for the NFL>

Lol, that's what you got from that? Kaep has been playing pretty much just like Alex. He can make some better throws and runs a bit faster but the stats are pretty even. Long run, this is great experience for Kaep as it will help his decision making. For the most part, he hasn't repeated mistakes bit obviously there is a lot to learn about being an nfl qb.

Bottom line kaepernick is the guy. Alex Smith will move on.
I do agree w/ Young. I love that Chicago gameplan. I would love if they kept our tight formations and just mix in more deep play actions and more screens and short passes to the backs. Colin has not really mastered the check down yet but once he does he will be solid all the way around. For the life of me I do not know why Jim and Roman do not call designed screens to Hunter/James, VD, Crab, or even Bruce Miller. All these guys can move after the catch and would really open things up and chew clock.
Originally posted by taney71:
The takeaway I get from the Steve Young piece is that Alex Smith should be starting and the team should go back to what it did last year and for most of this year.

Instead, as Young implies, the team is spreading out the WRs and throwing the ball deep. Those deep passes aren't working so the team starts the first drive of the Seatlle game 2nd and 10 instead of 2nd and 5 with a run or short pass. This deep pass crap was never part of the West Coast offense. Sure Rice and Taylor had big pass plays but that was off mainly short passes. There was the occassional long pass but not like we saw so much last game.

Oh, and I hate the pistol offense. I think the Seakhawks figured it out and others teams will as well. Its too gimkicky for the NFL>
No, you're incorrect, imho. You're letting the QB change confuse you about what Steve Young is saying--which is that the playcalling should go back to the tight formation, running game, "rely on the bell cow to set up play action" that was used against Chicago.

I think Steve Young's correct. Starting off with the tight formation, even with jumbo packages, means that the Niners O-line gets to pound on the other team to start with and should impose their will on them.

They started off with the passing game against Seattle, went three and out, and then Seattle used a pound the ball running attack on them. Total momentum shift to Seattle, which let them be the bullies and changed the nature of the entire game.

The concern SY voices about not allowing that to happen in December is a valid one, too. Even GB, which played at Seattle in the "Fail Mary" game, came back from a horrible first half where they were getting bullied--and took the game down to the final play.

Seattle is better now than they were back then, but the Niners should have been able to come back in the second half against them even more than they did. Manningham's injury play was big in that regard--a turnover in the red zone, plus the loss of a WR--devastating play in several ways.

The only silver lining from that game is that the Niners didn't quit. IMHO.

need to get James involved in some screen plays
why can't we just play old school west coast than this college gimmick b******t?
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by oldninerdude:
I agree with you that the Niners were intimidated by Seattle. They were put back on their heels from the very start--and their own offensive game plan was both ineffective and weak, and gave the momentum to Seattle from the start.

I get the impression that Harbaugh is not happy with the way things went.

I expect a different attitude, and performance, against Arizona. With or without Justin Smith, Manningham, or VD.

No excuses, and no options. Win or else.
good post,, we got no other options and it is all our own fault for f**king up the rams games and for being scared in seattle