Originally posted by verb1der:
I get your point regarding conventional passing. But do you think that your opinion is influenced primarily by the last two games? Remember this is chess not checkers, every opponent brings a different challenge, so it becomes hard to sustain offensive production on a weekly basis. But if you want to base it strictly on stats, then yes it's about the same.
You're saying "playoff teams will just gear up to stop the run". Meanwhile, the Bears came into monday night with the mentality to "stop the run and make ck beat you with his arm", they got carved up!
Then come the Rams, Fisher's mentality was "Ok, let's scheme to stop the pass and force CK to be like Alex Smith.". They took away all of CK's deep routes and forced 49ers to beat them by playing the short, game managing type game, yes CK struggled, but he overcame in many ways. Then here comes the Dolphins playing copycat in their approach, but this time Harbaugh and Roman were ready, which brings me to my main point..
Because of key injuries (hunter, kw,) Harbaugh and staff were forced to somewhat "re-evaluate" the strength of this unit. They know they have to make up for the loss of Hunter's production, since Gore cannot carry a full load. And only a fool would use LMJ like Kendall Hunter, I'm sure the coaches know this, therefore the offense must somehow "evolve" by engineering it to maximize CK & LMJ's strengths, and that's where the Pistol formation comes to play.
The combo of CK & LMJ is the perfect ingredient to have when attempting to execute a Pistol scheme. They should interview Chris Ault from Nevada (the inventor of this offense) what's his opinion, and I bet he would agree. If Roman can innovate the run game, it's safe to say he can also innovate our overall offense, it was on full display last Sunday.
Sooner or later continuity will develop, just wait and see, it's going to be explosive come playoff time.
Here is some interesting points from the source (Roman) himself. It certainly doesn't dismiss your point but if you take this face value, it's just another wrinkle. That said, if he's been studying this "Q" offense and it's ties to CK, we could be looking at the start of an installation of a totally new offense
I don't remember you guys practicing the Pistol too much during training camp. Is that something that you've really started doing over the last month now that Kap's been in?
"We've done some Pistol in training camp. We did it at Stanford some. It's just another formation and it's really all it is, just another formation."
How much time did you spend with University of Nevada head coach Chris Ault, talking about it?
"Yeah, did spend some time with Chris. About three years ago, made the trek to Nevada and visited with him and his staff. That was very valuable time spent. He was very accommodating and it was very interesting as a coach to go really learn something totally new. And he's a very good football coach that was very accommodating. So, it was good."
So you're watching the film, watching your quarterback now, back then.
"I was, yeah, matter of fact, yeah."
What are the common elements defenses are doing to take away TE Vernon Davis? Three catches the last three games total, so what's going on?
"I'm not going to get into the X's and O's of things, but every team's different, every situation's different. I'd say that they're paying a lot of attention to him at times. On [QB Colin Kaepernick] Kap's 50-yard run a couple of weeks ago, there was 10 guys. Vernon ran that way and there was 10 guys on that side of the field. So, I think that kind of paints a picture."
Was that an exaggeration?
"No exaggeration. [RB] Frank [Gore] cut the last guy."
We saw the Redskins running the Pistol the other night. Are there other teams besides you and the Redskins that run it? Do the Panthers run it?
"I believe the Panthers. I have seen the Panthers get in that formation, yeah. But the Redskins probably do it more than anybody. It's just another formation. There's a lot different ways you can build formations and rebuild formations. But, it's just another formation. I think the Redskins definitely do it more than anybody and we're just kind of starting to tap into it now."
Do you call it the Pistol when you have the three guys in the backfield or do you call it something else internally?
"We don't call it the Pistol, no. It's two syllables. We just use one syllable. It's a 'Q' formation
Have you talked to Chris Ault at all on Nevada just to pick your brain?
"A couple of years ago. Yeah, probably three years ago, three or four years ago, leading into the, what was it, before the 2010 season."
As to your points: My influence is and can only be based on the small sample size and well, the history of the NFL. Its certainly a little too early to consider a revolutionary-stye offense esp. if it isn't producing anything more than the previous regime (and still looks the same overall minus a few wrinkles and style-comparisons). That said, it would be interesting to note esp. now with James in there and perhaps, Jenkins being incorporated more, if we run more and more of the "Q" offense. How many snaps were we in the Q last week?
While I certainly don't want to discredit what CK actually did under the big lights on a national stage against the Bears, I also have to be realistic and believe that game plan was originally designed for a healthy Smith given the last second order by the Docs to sit him. That said, b/c CK was playing they had no clue how to play him but did stack 8 in the box more often than not. And guess what we did? We almost went spread. This was the first game all year where we actually game planned to get VD in single coverage (6 of 8 times and he caught 7 of those).
If anything, this highlights the fact that if a team does stack the box and run blitzes 8+ between the tackles, we've shown the potential to beat them no matter who's at QB. If a team like the Bears are going to play man-to-man b/c of this, we have the potential (VD, Williams, Walker, Manningham, Crabtree, etc. that game) to beat them through the air and off tackle with Hunter/James and then down their throats late with Gore between the tackles.
But that's not what Roman has called since then. In the Bears game, he was creative in how he got VD open early and often as it just opened up the offense overall, wide open. VD has since disappeared. That's scheme and it sure isn't innovative. The Rams tied us with ONE single weapon with a broken collar bone in Amendola. Jeff F. was VERY creative in moving him around and creating mismatches. He killed us. We have x5 the weapons they have.
I love your enthusiasm and optimism that we're morph quickly in time for the playoffs adding more and more Q offense as a weapon for CK, James and maybe, Jenkins et. al as well. I will be watching these next three gams closely to see if we see more and more Q b/c of your perspective/theory.