SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS GAMEDAY THREAD (Week 15)

they are reviewing the fumble by walker on NFL by their rules analyst.

They are saying its a blown call and he didn't complete the process.

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by BrianGO:

Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:

Originally posted by SofaKing:
I heard Eric Davis talking on KNBR and he said something very interesting. What if Goldson opted to hit Hernandez low, and Hernandez sustained a career ending knee injury? The NFL would be perfectly fine with that because players can't sue for knee injuries. Even though the result of the hit would be devastating, the NFL would tell Hernandez "tough luck, you knew the risks of playing this game, no compensation for you". The NFL doesn't give a flying f**k about player safety.

It was a good, clean, football play by Goldson. You can't tell players to not hit too hard. Goldson has every right to hit Hernandez and try to force the ball loose. If it was helmet-to-helmet contact, then fine. But that wasn't the call. It was for hitting a defenseless receiver. How can Hernandez be defenseless when he has the ball in his grasp?

Not even a grasp, Hernandez had the ball in his hands, that was a terrible call.

It wasn't a terrible call. It's the new RULE. Those are the new rules of the game. Blame the people who make the rules, but the refs called the play correctly.

the definition of a defenseless player......

(2) A receiver attempting to catch a pass; or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner. If the receiver/runner is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player;




so you are supposed to let him catch the ball THEN let him start running THEN hit him???

@ "has not had time to protect himself" ......... you're taught to get there at the same time as the ball.


http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/2012%20-%20Rule%20Book.pdf
(good thing to have downloaded)

Yeah the NFL is pretty much saying let them catch it, then tackle, or play the ball.

No more kill shots. I saw we still do it for intimidation factor.

technically........ he was playing the ball........ it was just in AH's arms.


but if he did brace himself he's no longer defenseless it sounds like... per rule.

haha can't play the ball like that. I meant before the catch is made. Attack the ball, not the player.

Its a bang bang play so its going to go either way, depending on the ref.

^haha no, i get what you're saying.

but even goodell talks about "making the same safer within the spirit of the game" (or something like that). Goldson's hit was within the spirit of the game and he didn't intend to injure Hernandez.

i agree with the people that say soon players are gonna start going for WR's knees.

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
^haha no, i get what you're saying.

but even goodell talks about "making the same safer within the spirit of the game" (or something like that). Goldson's hit was within the spirit of the game and he didn't intend to injure Hernandez.

i agree with the people that say soon players are gonna start going for WR's knees.

lol the "player saftey" angle is b******t.

The players have become a valuable asset and the owners need them protected. Also, they are in danger of losing billions in player lawsuits so now they are just protecting against liability for these types of suits.

"Player safety" is just a smokescreen to hide the fact that this is all about money. It always is.

heath evans ripping the patriots right now lol

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
^haha no, i get what you're saying.

but even goodell talks about "making the same safer within the spirit of the game" (or something like that). Goldson's hit was within the spirit of the game and he didn't intend to injure Hernandez.

i agree with the people that say soon players are gonna start going for WR's knees.

lol the "player saftey" angle is b******t.

The players have become a valuable asset and the owners need them protected. Also, they are in danger of losing billions in player lawsuits so now they are just protecting against liability for these types of suits.

"Player safety" is just a smokescreen to hide the fact that this is all about money. It always is.

i agree 100%.

where i work safety is a big deal also. so i can read in between the lines on what Goodell is saying and know it's a bunch of crap, because i hear a lot of the same stuff everyday also........

but yeah, i meant to put more focus on the "spirit of the game" part........ which is where i feel Goldson's hit was... or at least should be... legal.

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
^haha no, i get what you're saying.

but even goodell talks about "making the same safer within the spirit of the game" (or something like that). Goldson's hit was within the spirit of the game and he didn't intend to injure Hernandez.

i agree with the people that say soon players are gonna start going for WR's knees.

lol the "player saftey" angle is b******t.

The players have become a valuable asset and the owners need them protected. Also, they are in danger of losing billions in player lawsuits so now they are just protecting against liability for these types of suits.

"Player safety" is just a smokescreen to hide the fact that this is all about money. It always is.

i agree 100%.

where i work safety is a big deal also. so i can read in between the lines on what Goodell is saying and know it's a bunch of crap, because i hear a lot of the same stuff everyday also........

but yeah, i meant to put more focus on the "spirit of the game" part........ which is where i feel Goldson's hit was... or at least should be... legal.

Yeah i gotcha. Looked legal in super slo mo. Real time it can go either way.

Its arbitrary, which makes it a dumb ass rule. Just like that old "force out" rule. "He would have caught it in bounds." How dumb is that.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
^haha no, i get what you're saying.

but even goodell talks about "making the same safer within the spirit of the game" (or something like that). Goldson's hit was within the spirit of the game and he didn't intend to injure Hernandez.

i agree with the people that say soon players are gonna start going for WR's knees.

lol the "player saftey" angle is b******t.

The players have become a valuable asset and the owners need them protected. Also, they are in danger of losing billions in player lawsuits so now they are just protecting against liability for these types of suits.

"Player safety" is just a smokescreen to hide the fact that this is all about money. It always is.

i agree 100%.

where i work safety is a big deal also. so i can read in between the lines on what Goodell is saying and know it's a bunch of crap, because i hear a lot of the same stuff everyday also........

but yeah, i meant to put more focus on the "spirit of the game" part........ which is where i feel Goldson's hit was... or at least should be... legal.

Yeah i gotcha. Looked legal in super slo mo. Real time it can go either way.

Its arbitrary, which makes it a dumb ass rule. Just like that old "force out" rule. "He would have caught it in bounds." How dumb is that.

we could go on forever if we looked through the rulebook.

Originally posted by Garcia:
they are reviewing the fumble by walker on NFL by their rules analyst.

They are saying its a blown call and he didn't complete the process.

Yep. Just saw the piece of NFL Network. Analyst said that the booth officiating crew never called down to the head official (Hochuli) to go over the play. That was not a catch and fumble by any NFL standard.

And to be honest, there is no doubt that the refs were HEAVY favoring the Pats in that game.

Brady spikes the ball and has words to say to the ref = no penalty.

No call PI on Whitner = automatic PI flag on Brown on the very next play, for feet tangled up.

The refs did everything in their power to help the Pats win it at the end. No holding calls on any Pats olinemen, even though our guys were getting maulled.

Damn pathetic. This game could have easily been a 55-[fill in the blank] blowout.

Why is this thread open? Move on. Seattle is the focus.

Originally posted by RollinDownRodeo:
Why is this thread open? Move on. Seattle is the focus.

this

Originally posted by JD9671:

Originally posted by RollinDownRodeo:

Why is this thread open? Move on. Seattle is the focus.

this

Do we look like the players? They have to move on to Seattle. We can relish this game for as long as we want.

Originally posted by Garcia:

they are reviewing the fumble by walker on NFL by their rules analyst.

They are saying its a blown call and he didn't complete the process.

It was obvious to me when it happened that it was a an incomplete pass. I just figured that since we were playing the Pats, a few calls were going to fall in their favor.

Seems to happen to every team that plays the Pats.

Pats get away with so much , it's a shame refs are afraid to piss off Tom brady