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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS GAMEDAY THREAD (Week 15)

Originally posted by SofaKing:
I heard Eric Davis talking on KNBR and he said something very interesting. What if Goldson opted to hit Hernandez low, and Hernandez sustained a career ending knee injury? The NFL would be perfectly fine with that because players can't sue for knee injuries. Even though the result of the hit would be devastating, the NFL would tell Hernandez "tough luck, you knew the risks of playing this game, no compensation for you". The NFL doesn't give a flying f**k about player safety.

It was a good, clean, football play by Goldson. You can't tell players to not hit too hard. Goldson has every right to hit Hernandez and try to force the ball loose. If it was helmet-to-helmet contact, then fine. But that wasn't the call. It was for hitting a defenseless receiver. How can Hernandez be defenseless when he has the ball in his grasp?
Not even a grasp, Hernandez had the ball in his hands, that was a terrible call.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Originally posted by 49rz4Life:
What about that hit Hernandez took from Goldson ?! that was pure football. If that wasn't a clean legal hit then wat the hell are we watching ?!

It wasn't a penalty but the league may be getting sued for a lot of money by people taking head hits. It sucks, but I understand them calling "iffy" hits. They have to do something to protect the players and if it's even a question they should throw the flags. It's all about protecting the players, it sucks, but I understand. I wasn't too pissed about that.

I heard Eric Davis talking on KNBR and he said something very interesting. What if Goldson opted to hit Hernandez low, and Hernandez sustained a career ending knee injury? The NFL would be perfectly fine with that because players can't sue for knee injuries. Even though the result of the hit would be devastating, the NFL would tell Hernandez "tough luck, you knew the risks of playing this game, no compensation for you". The NFL doesn't give a flying f**k about player safety.

It was a good, clean, football play by Goldson. You can't tell players to not hit too hard. Goldson has every right to hit Hernandez and try to force the ball loose. If it was helmet-to-helmet contact, then fine. But that wasn't the call. It was for hitting a defenseless receiver. How can Hernandez be defenseless when he has the ball in his grasp?

Thats what i'm saying. We got that pick on the next play because he was still shaken to the core. It was a beautiful hit and it was pure football. What were we suppose to let him secure the ball ? What is this two hand touch ? Goodell really is turning this into WWE, he must really be a Vince McMahon fan because its like hes trying to be this football business man, lets make money first villain. Its really disturbing. The whole Bounty thing everything is just ridiculous. I love football but never would I have imagined seeing somebody like Brees blasting an NFL Commisioner like its nothing. At the end of the day the refs weren't bending for the Pats like they used to.
I even saw one of the refs in the 1st quarter tell Brady after he got dropped and tried to complain... " Let em play." Nothing wrong with playing it safe but get the dam calls right.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
I heard Eric Davis talking on KNBR and he said something very interesting. What if Goldson opted to hit Hernandez low, and Hernandez sustained a career ending knee injury? The NFL would be perfectly fine with that because players can't sue for knee injuries. Even though the result of the hit would be devastating, the NFL would tell Hernandez "tough luck, you knew the risks of playing this game, no compensation for you". The NFL doesn't give a flying f**k about player safety.

It was a good, clean, football play by Goldson. You can't tell players to not hit too hard. Goldson has every right to hit Hernandez and try to force the ball loose. If it was helmet-to-helmet contact, then fine. But that wasn't the call. It was for hitting a defenseless receiver. How can Hernandez be defenseless when he has the ball in his grasp?
Not even a grasp, Hernandez had the ball in his hands, that was a terrible call.


It wasn't a terrible call. It's the new RULE. Those are the new rules of the game. Blame the people who make the rules, but the refs called the play correctly.
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
I heard Eric Davis talking on KNBR and he said something very interesting. What if Goldson opted to hit Hernandez low, and Hernandez sustained a career ending knee injury? The NFL would be perfectly fine with that because players can't sue for knee injuries. Even though the result of the hit would be devastating, the NFL would tell Hernandez "tough luck, you knew the risks of playing this game, no compensation for you". The NFL doesn't give a flying f**k about player safety.

It was a good, clean, football play by Goldson. You can't tell players to not hit too hard. Goldson has every right to hit Hernandez and try to force the ball loose. If it was helmet-to-helmet contact, then fine. But that wasn't the call. It was for hitting a defenseless receiver. How can Hernandez be defenseless when he has the ball in his grasp?
Not even a grasp, Hernandez had the ball in his hands, that was a terrible call.

it actually worked either way, because they went right back to hernandez on the screen and he alligator armed it
Originally posted by 49erJim:
BRADY AND WELKER ARE TWINS!! WAH WAH WAH ALL NIGHT LONG. I FELT SORRY FOR THEIR TEAM MATES. the play where welker stopped DURNING the play was awesome......what a baby. I WANT MY JUICE BOX IS CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!

Two of biggest cry babies in the nfl, its disgusting watching these two whine whenever things don't go their way!!! Where was the penalty on Brady for spiking the football and then ******** at the refs????
even after he got sacked, he looked at the ref like, "why aren't you throwing a flag?" I think it was on a Macdonald sack. His arm brushed bradys' facemask. I'm sure he wanted a personal foul.
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
even after he got sacked, he looked at the ref like, "why aren't you throwing a flag?" I think it was on a Macdonald sack. His arm brushed bradys' facemask. I'm sure he wanted a personal foul.

Ref couldn't call that after watching Ray Macs helmet ripped off
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
even after he got sacked, he looked at the ref like, "why aren't you throwing a flag?" I think it was on a Macdonald sack. His arm brushed bradys' facemask. I'm sure he wanted a personal foul.

Ref couldn't call that after watching Ray Macs helmet ripped off

I think it was on the other sack. I think RM had two, right? Anyway, yea it was b******t. Nothing that should've been called, but as soon as brady got up, he just glared at the ref like, "WTF?"
Head of NFL Officials says Delanie fumble was Wrong call, and they screwed up. Just on NFL Network.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Head of NFL Officials says Delanie fumble was Wrong call, and they screwed up. Just on NFL Network.

meh, he deserved it. fkn butterfingers.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Head of NFL Officials says Delanie fumble was Wrong call, and they screwed up. Just on NFL Network.

they really need to change the rules...JH couldn't challenge according to the refs
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Head of NFL Officials says Delanie fumble was Wrong call, and they screwed up. Just on NFL Network.

Jeez how many plays have we been F'd over on this year?
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
I heard Eric Davis talking on KNBR and he said something very interesting. What if Goldson opted to hit Hernandez low, and Hernandez sustained a career ending knee injury? The NFL would be perfectly fine with that because players can't sue for knee injuries. Even though the result of the hit would be devastating, the NFL would tell Hernandez "tough luck, you knew the risks of playing this game, no compensation for you". The NFL doesn't give a flying f**k about player safety.

It was a good, clean, football play by Goldson. You can't tell players to not hit too hard. Goldson has every right to hit Hernandez and try to force the ball loose. If it was helmet-to-helmet contact, then fine. But that wasn't the call. It was for hitting a defenseless receiver. How can Hernandez be defenseless when he has the ball in his grasp?
Not even a grasp, Hernandez had the ball in his hands, that was a terrible call.


It wasn't a terrible call. It's the new RULE. Those are the new rules of the game. Blame the people who make the rules, but the refs called the play correctly.

the definition of a defenseless player......

(2) A receiver attempting to catch a pass; or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner. If the receiver/runner is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player;




so you are supposed to let him catch the ball THEN let him start running THEN hit him???

@ "has not had time to protect himself" ......... you're taught to get there at the same time as the ball.


http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/2012%20-%20Rule%20Book.pdf
(good thing to have downloaded)
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
I heard Eric Davis talking on KNBR and he said something very interesting. What if Goldson opted to hit Hernandez low, and Hernandez sustained a career ending knee injury? The NFL would be perfectly fine with that because players can't sue for knee injuries. Even though the result of the hit would be devastating, the NFL would tell Hernandez "tough luck, you knew the risks of playing this game, no compensation for you". The NFL doesn't give a flying f**k about player safety.

It was a good, clean, football play by Goldson. You can't tell players to not hit too hard. Goldson has every right to hit Hernandez and try to force the ball loose. If it was helmet-to-helmet contact, then fine. But that wasn't the call. It was for hitting a defenseless receiver. How can Hernandez be defenseless when he has the ball in his grasp?
Not even a grasp, Hernandez had the ball in his hands, that was a terrible call.


It wasn't a terrible call. It's the new RULE. Those are the new rules of the game. Blame the people who make the rules, but the refs called the play correctly.

the definition of a defenseless player......

(2) A receiver attempting to catch a pass; or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner. If the receiver/runner is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player;




so you are supposed to let him catch the ball THEN let him start running THEN hit him???

@ "has not had time to protect himself" ......... you're taught to get there at the same time as the ball.


http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/2012%20-%20Rule%20Book.pdf
(good thing to have downloaded)

Yeah the NFL is pretty much saying let them catch it, then tackle, or play the ball.

No more kill shots. I saw we still do it for intimidation factor.
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Dec 19, 2012 at 4:23 PM ]
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by Jesu80ncleats:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
I heard Eric Davis talking on KNBR and he said something very interesting. What if Goldson opted to hit Hernandez low, and Hernandez sustained a career ending knee injury? The NFL would be perfectly fine with that because players can't sue for knee injuries. Even though the result of the hit would be devastating, the NFL would tell Hernandez "tough luck, you knew the risks of playing this game, no compensation for you". The NFL doesn't give a flying f**k about player safety.

It was a good, clean, football play by Goldson. You can't tell players to not hit too hard. Goldson has every right to hit Hernandez and try to force the ball loose. If it was helmet-to-helmet contact, then fine. But that wasn't the call. It was for hitting a defenseless receiver. How can Hernandez be defenseless when he has the ball in his grasp?
Not even a grasp, Hernandez had the ball in his hands, that was a terrible call.


It wasn't a terrible call. It's the new RULE. Those are the new rules of the game. Blame the people who make the rules, but the refs called the play correctly.

the definition of a defenseless player......

(2) A receiver attempting to catch a pass; or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner. If the receiver/runner is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player;




so you are supposed to let him catch the ball THEN let him start running THEN hit him???

@ "has not had time to protect himself" ......... you're taught to get there at the same time as the ball.


http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/2012%20-%20Rule%20Book.pdf
(good thing to have downloaded)

Yeah the NFL is pretty much saying let them catch it, then tackle, or play the ball.

No more kill shots. I saw we still do it for intimidation factor.

technically........ he was playing the ball........ it was just in AH's arms.


but if he did brace himself he's no longer defenseless it sounds like... per rule.