SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS GAMEDAY THREAD (Week 15)

Originally posted by jreff22:
seeing a trend....in hindsight was Alex really to blame for not going deep and playing conservative.....was he instructed to and play by that design?

well he did throw deep to a wide open KW for a probable TD and completely missed him....

regardless of the qb, i'm not a fan of greg roman. although the last game was the first time i can recall him actual calling a screen pass more than once, and it worked great as we all have been clamoring for.

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by 21SandersMoss84:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
as of right now the forecast calls for 36 degrees with a 40% chance of rain on sunday

Bad weather favors our running game and will hinder Brady's aerial assault.

last time people wanted rain KW fumbled twice.......no thank you

This.

Also it would be Kaep vs Brady in bad weather. Brady 10/10 times wins that. Their run game is pretty effective too. But that would favor us like 7/10 times

I've seen Brady dominate in blizzards. Bad weather is nothing to him. Conversely, Kaep fumbles routinely in perfect weather.

Welp Stallworth out the way. That takes out the bombs. Pats will make a rally but we will hold them off.

Originally posted by vaden:
I've seen Brady dominate in blizzards. Bad weather is nothing to him. Conversely, Kaep fumbles routinely in perfect weather.

This point has been a matter of some discussion on Pats boards for several seasons. Brady and Belichick have also both chimed in on it.

'Bad weather' is not a single thing. What really hampers passing offense is wind. Brady is of the opinion that snow actually favors passing over running, because it makes it harder for players to keep their footing - less leverage for o-linemen drive blocking, likewise for pass rushers. There's clearly an element of being used to it at play, as well. The Patriots have put up 59 in a snow game before, though obviously against *much* lesser competition than these Niners. (They also put up 47 on the '08 Cardinals in the snow with Matt Cassel at QB, and that Cards team of course made the Superbowl).

The key factor in this game, I believe, will be how well SF can throw the ball. The 'pound the rock, keep Brady off the field' plan sounds superficially appealing, until you realize the Pats can defend the run MUCH better than the pass. The longest run New England has allowed all year is 23 yards. The converse is that Ryan Fitzpatrick (twice), Peyton Manning (unsurprisingly), Buttfumble Sanchez, Joe Flacco and Andrew Luck have all been able to put up 300 yard passing games on them. Seattle, who as you know are a running team, managed to beat the Pats in a game where Marshawn Lynch was held to 41 yards.

Originally posted by 49rz4Life:

Welp Stallworth out the way. That takes out the bombs. Pats will make a rally but we will hold them off.

Doesn't Brandon Lloyd catch "bombs"

My humble prediction is....If we don't score atleast 38 points, we will lose. And by the looks of the offense over the past two weeks, I don't see us scoring that much. I hope Roman can prove me wrong..

I want to kill Brady.

Any update on manningham?

Its going to be an interesting game for sure. The people forcasting doom and gloom are not supported by the statistics. I think it comes down to the wire.

Pats have not lost at home in December since forever....But we have not lost a game to a defense the gives up their kind of yardage in two years.

Pats have a historic offense that never scores less than 21.....we have given up an average of 14 all year.

They defend the run very well...we rush better than anyone...

The stats go on like this endlessly. The biggest advantage the Pats have is being at home and our changes at QB....one is mitigated by the fact the game is late, so there wont be any east coast lag...the other is a lesser concern because we were never all that qb driven to begin with.

I fully expect to be at the edge of my seat in full on worry mode right up to the end....we will not be so comfortably ahead I can relax, nor far enough behind to give up....the team that makes the big mistake or has the last minute hero is going to take this one.

I was impressed when I heard the Pats were 4 points away from being undefeated this season. Then I looked at their schedule, outside of DEN, BAL, and HOU it's a total cupcake schedule.What they did to HOU was impressive, but GB destroyed them too.

Originally posted by niners_guy:

I was impressed when I heard the Pats were 4 points away from being undefeated this season. Then I looked at their schedule, outside of DEN, BAL, and HOU it's a total cupcake schedule.What they did to HOU was impressive, but GB destroyed them too.

And Houston should've lost to the Lions, and almost lost to the Jags. Houston is not an impressive team. 1 and done, book it.

I want to mangle Brady.

Originally posted by jays9ers:
My humble prediction is....If we don't score atleast 38 points, we will lose. And by the looks of the offense over the past two weeks, I don't see us scoring that much. I hope Roman can prove me wrong..

Tennessee
Arizona
Baltimore
Denver
Seattle
NYJ
Miami

**All teams that have held the Pats to 37 points or less. Our defense is better than every single one of those defenses.

27 will win it. I think we will need a Defensive TD to reach 27.

Originally posted by SFTifoso:
And Houston should've lost to the Lions, and almost lost to the Jags. Houston is not an impressive team. 1 and done, book it.

And SF played the Rams twice and didn't win either. New England lost to Arizona at home. It's the NFL. Houston did destroy the Ravens and win at Denver and Chicago. People are overreacting on the basis of one terrible performance (also worthy of note, the Texans played almost as badly as a team with that talent could, AND got unlucky. It's not like the Pats' true talent level is blowing out top-8 NFL teams on a regular basis, either).

The spread's at NE -6, which factoring in homefield is basically suggesting the Pats would be favored by a field goal on a neutral field. Sounds about right to me. These two teams are damn close.

I want to destroy Brady.