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Dec 3, 2012 at 11:49 PM
- 49ersOnMINE
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a game at a time folks, but i hope the niners go at least 3-1.
Dec 4, 2012 at 2:26 AM
- RishikeshA
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Originally posted by TexasGuero49:
This is the way I see it going down for us.
Miami --- Win
Patriots --- Lose
Seahawks --- Win (hope corners are suspended)
Cardianls --- Win
11-4-1
Pats have a tough game against Houston and then us at home. Watt should get to Brady a few times and soften him up for us. The Saints passing game is as good as anybody and they have a better rushing attack then the Pats. That Saints game was a preview of what we'll do to the Pats.
Dec 5, 2012 at 11:40 AM
- LaMattsBlue
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http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/12/05/remaining-schedule-favors-49ers-competitors/
Question about this article where it says the tie breaker with the Packers and Bears is irrelevant due to our tie. Correct me if I am wrong but it say we end up at 11 - 4 - 1 and the Bears and Packers end up at 11 - 5. Do we not have the better record?
Question about this article where it says the tie breaker with the Packers and Bears is irrelevant due to our tie. Correct me if I am wrong but it say we end up at 11 - 4 - 1 and the Bears and Packers end up at 11 - 5. Do we not have the better record?
Dec 5, 2012 at 11:46 AM
- matthewabbit
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Can kaep really win two of the reamaining four games?
Dec 5, 2012 at 11:49 AM
- LaMattsBlue
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Originally posted by matthewabbit:
Can kaep really win two of the reamaining four games?
He can win them all.
The toughest to me is the Seattle game just cause of the crowd noise.
If we are as good as we think we are Miami and the Cards (at home) should be a cake walk (but I know, you never know).
The Pats are most likely to be missing Gronk and Edleman. And the Dolphins just kept it close with them. So we should be able to play them close and hopefully win.
Dec 5, 2012 at 12:15 PM
- SnakePlissken
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Originally posted by SportsFan:
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/12/05/remaining-schedule-favors-49ers-competitors/
Question about this article where it says the tie breaker with the Packers and Bears is irrelevant due to our tie. Correct me if I am wrong but it say we end up at 11 - 4 - 1 and the Bears and Packers end up at 11 - 5. Do we not have the better record?
It gets really complicated, at first you'd think the "tie" itself + the season wins over both would be the 'tie-breaker', but it then puts into consideration every little standard, like strength of victory (win/loss points ratio), strength of schedule, best ranking of points scored/allowed. -But even with all those intangibles added up, I still think (in that scenario) we'd end up with the #2 seed.
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
Dec 5, 2012 at 3:25 PM
- Happs
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Originally posted by SportsFan:
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/12/05/remaining-schedule-favors-49ers-competitors/
Question about this article where it says the tie breaker with the Packers and Bears is irrelevant due to our tie. Correct me if I am wrong but it say we end up at 11 - 4 - 1 and the Bears and Packers end up at 11 - 5. Do we not have the better record?
The Tie Breaker is irrelevant because it only applies if we have the same record as another team. So that other team would have to have a tie also.For example if the Bears and Packers tie each other and we all end up at 11-4-1, then the tie breaker would come into play. Tie breakers are only used when you have identical records. The tie doesn't really work against us.
You are not wrong. You are correct. 11-4-1 is a better record than 11-5. It's a higher winning percentage. If you take a look at ESPNs playoff rankings, http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/conferenceRank/order/false , you'll see that there are other teams with 8 wins, but we are ahead of them in seeding. Same would apply once the season is over. The person who wrote that SFGate article doesn't seem to know what he's talking about.
[ Edited by Happs on Dec 5, 2012 at 3:26 PM ]
Dec 5, 2012 at 4:51 PM
- tohara3
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I do believe we will be okay. We control our own destiny the rest of the way!
Dec 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM
- LaMattsBlue
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Originally posted by Happs:Originally posted by SportsFan:http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/12/05/remaining-schedule-favors-49ers-competitors/
Question about this article where it says the tie breaker with the Packers and Bears is irrelevant due to our tie. Correct me if I am wrong but it say we end up at 11 - 4 - 1 and the Bears and Packers end up at 11 - 5. Do we not have the better record?
The Tie Breaker is irrelevant because it only applies if we have the same record as another team. So that other team would have to have a tie also.For example if the Bears and Packers tie each other and we all end up at 11-4-1, then the tie breaker would come into play. Tie breakers are only used when you have identical records. The tie doesn't really work against us.
You are not wrong. You are correct. 11-4-1 is a better record than 11-5. It's a higher winning percentage. If you take a look at ESPNs playoff rankings, http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/conferenceRank/order/false , you'll see that there are other teams with 8 wins, but we are ahead of them in seeding. Same would apply once the season is over. The person who wrote that SFGate article doesn't seem to know what he's talking about.
OK...that is what I was thinking. When he said the tie is essentially a lose I was like WTF.
Dec 5, 2012 at 7:35 PM
- b9er37
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Originally posted by SportsFan:http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/12/05/remaining-schedule-favors-49ers-competitors/
Question about this article where it says the tie breaker with the Packers and Bears is irrelevant due to our tie. Correct me if I am wrong but it say we end up at 11 - 4 - 1 and the Bears and Packers end up at 11 - 5. Do we not have the better record?
Lol at this article. The surging Seahawks just lost the week before as we blew out the saints, sports writers crack me up.
Dec 5, 2012 at 7:38 PM
- Young2Rice
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Originally posted by tohara3:
I do believe we will be okay. We control our own destiny the rest of the way!
As long as we control our destiny i won't panic. If we were ever to lose that division lead i'd be worried. I'm hoping the suspensions effect them big time. Going to Buff with neither will be tough. It will be tougher against us for sure.
Dec 5, 2012 at 8:26 PM
- SFL49ER
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f**k the Patriots. Thats all I have to say. Nothing more to add
Dec 6, 2012 at 8:19 AM
- signman
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Originally posted by SFL49ER:
f**k the Patriots. Thats all I have to say. Nothing more to add
Can I add f**k the Seahawks too?
Dec 6, 2012 at 8:26 AM
- btthepunk
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Originally posted by matthewabbit:
Can kaep really win two of the reamaining four games?
He beat the Bears and Saints, of course he can beat the Dolphins and Cardinals.
Dec 6, 2012 at 8:37 AM
- btthepunk
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We can actually clinch a playoff berth on Sunday. We just need to win and have Dallas, Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Washington, and either St Louis or Seattle to lose.
Not very likely but it might not actually be that far fetched either, really.
Rams @ Buffalo - Buffalo has been looking better lately and weather could be nasty.
Dallas @ Cincinnati - Definitely winnable for Cinci
Minnesota vs Chicago - Chicago is much better and Vikes have gotten worse.
Washington vs Baltimore - Baltimore is the much better team. They'll be mad about losing last week.
Tampa vs Philly - Eagles due for a win. Right? Doubt it though.
Seattle vs Arizona - Arizona due for a win too?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000105784/article/nfl-playoff-scenarios-week-14?icampaign=Playoffpicture_news
Not very likely but it might not actually be that far fetched either, really.
Rams @ Buffalo - Buffalo has been looking better lately and weather could be nasty.
Dallas @ Cincinnati - Definitely winnable for Cinci
Minnesota vs Chicago - Chicago is much better and Vikes have gotten worse.
Washington vs Baltimore - Baltimore is the much better team. They'll be mad about losing last week.
Tampa vs Philly - Eagles due for a win. Right? Doubt it though.
Seattle vs Arizona - Arizona due for a win too?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000105784/article/nfl-playoff-scenarios-week-14?icampaign=Playoffpicture_news