Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by stillpans4gold:
so you have seen
Originally posted by cciowa:
...."You think I like to list this stuff?" What stuff? All i see is barrage of sensationalist unsupported opinion.
yes i am negative,. I have been worried all year about our lack of pressure , s**tty special teams, horrid pass protection. I have been assured by many not to worry, the coaches know whats going on, our defense and offensive line is elite..Sundays fiasco just made me realize some things. Are you people aware of the SAME things keep happening when we lose games so this is not just a bump in the road. I think this team has problems and as they keep happening it tells me either the coaches are clueless, which i do not think they are,, or they have ZERO idea how to fix it.the common factors in 3 losses( Yes i know what the score was sunday)
defense not ready to play
defense getting owned at the the end of the game when we are supposed to be unbeatable with a lead late in the game
defense struggling vs the run
defense sloppy with awfull penalties
entire team terrible with drive killing penalities and mistakes
special teams coverage horrid horrid
pass protection horrid
all those things came to a head sunday in that fiasco. our defense is soft vs good teams and is soft to often early in a game and at crunch time sunday they just faded away, willis allowed himself to be owned by jackson, no pressure on the quarterback and as a result the secondary gets burned plus rogers has been a bum .
You think I LIKE to list this stuff? I look at that list, I see those SAME things happening in very loss we have had this year, I SEE no improvement in kickoff and punt return coverage. I see two games in a dome coming up where we are horrid at. I see a team who will win ten at best, 9 is more realistic in my opinion, we either host a wildcard team or we are the wildcard team, we lose and thats it. I do not think our defense is elite, i think our special teams are horrid and can not be fixed. I saw the losses we had last year and saw that different little non tragic things led to a loss in each one of them during the regular season,,,, THIS year i see the SAME things happening over and over and THATS why i no longer think this is an elite team and whats more I worry the coaches know it and have no idea how to fix it
great special teams play
great defense vs good teams
the team always ready to play
no silly stupid drive killing penalites
great pass protection
pro bowl pass coverage
constant pressure on the quarterback
the team not caving in at the end of the game on defense
we must be looking at different games. you are telling me with a straight face the things i have listed are a figment of my imagination? wow. denial. the things i have listed are "unsupported? the words,"have you seen those games and those losses" just want to leap off the keyboard , but i will restrain my self
Yes. I've seen those games, and we've lost 2, tied 1 and won 6. That doesn't apply to my definition of horrid.
According to these seemingly unbiased, statistically supported numbers, we're shown a clear drop-off in S.T., while our offense has considerably improved from last year and our defense has more or less plateaued.
Who are the good teams we've played this year? And how do you define a good team? Green Bay has the best record of any team we've played this year. I'd venture to say our defense played a great game in that bout. Yep, for sure, we've struggled in a few games. as have all the teams in the NFL.
Your support for your claim is merely, "those games and those losses" - a cherry picking of selected performances that lead you to the claims: "... Coaches are clueless or have ZERO idea how to fix it.... will win ten at best, 9 is more realistic in my opinion ....we either host a wildcard team or we are the wildcard team, we lose and thats it... horrid and cannot be fixed."
Everything else you claim is just a labeling of an aspect of our game and calling it a generally negative word - a classic fallacious argument, which has no value.
Listen, I'm not claiming this team (or anyteam, ever) has not had their struggles, holes or issues to overcome. I just curious if your claims have any basis in anything other than an eyeball test of a few games we've struggled in, and the various aspects of our team with deficiencies?
Hey maybe your right, and your apocalyptic rant will prove true and this team will tank out. I just don't see any logical reason to subscribe to such absolutism as "horrid and cannot be fixed."