Thoughts from Idaho

This coaching staff needs to make a decision right now on what direction they want to take with the offense and make the switch and do it now without any hesitation. What direction that is I don't know but its time to decide.

grant cohn writes that 16 of the 1st 22 plays were from the shotgun....Alex and Kaepernick both had success in the shotgun formation in college (Kaepernick in a modified shotgun, the pistol)
should the shotgun and more spread philosphies be incorporated into the offense?

Originally posted by hofer36:
This coaching staff needs to make a decision right now on what direction they want to take with the offense and make the switch and do it now without any hesitation. What direction that is I don't know but its time to decide.

grant cohn writes that 16 of the 1st 22 plays were from the shotgun....Alex and Kaepernick both had success in the shotgun formation in college (Kaepernick in a modified shotgun, the pistol)
should the shotgun and more spread philosphies be incorporated into the offense?

I dont think so. IMO Alex does have more success passing out of shotgun, BUT, is also easily rattled if teams make adjustmenst to us not running the football. We do much beter when we establish the run first and then use the shotgun in adventagous situatiions. i would save shotgun formations for certain senarios such as two minute drills, or secenarios when we are in a shootout type game. This team needs to go back to two back formations IMO and beat the s**t out of defenses that way. The biggest problem IMO is not establishing the run first. Once we establish the run e can run any formation and be sucessful.

*cricckets* Too long i guess?

Stop with the reasonable thinking. This is Niner Talk and we are supposed to be on suicide watch and foaming out the mouth. Geez!

I agree with all most of the original post. I think the offense is still evolving, but does not need much to do so. I think the gimmicks need to go. They are a crapshoot that wont work in the playoffs when every team will be expecting. I think our offense should be mirrored to Houston and ATL. They use the run to set up the pass (ATL doesnt do it as much as they used to though). Houston makes teams respect Foster, and when they try to use extra men to stop him, they have WRs getting open down field.

Bottom line, for our coaches to completely forget that they have two good RBs to use, is beyond me. They have said that the lack of run attempts was because we were playing from behind. Last I checked, we were only down 7 at half. Should have been running the ball the entire first half like we did last year. Smith is mostly efficient, but he needs the threat of a run to be effective.

Originally posted by Travisty13:
Stop with the reasonable thinking. This is Niner Talk and we are supposed to be on suicide watch and foaming out the mouth. Geez!

Figured it was just to long for the average poster to focus on enough to read.

Originally posted by TheRatMan13:
I agree with all most of the original post. I think the offense is still evolving, but does not need much to do so. I think the gimmicks need to go. They are a crapshoot that wont work in the playoffs when every team will be expecting. I think our offense should be mirrored to Houston and ATL. They use the run to set up the pass (ATL doesnt do it as much as they used to though). Houston makes teams respect Foster, and when they try to use extra men to stop him, they have WRs getting open down field.

Bottom line, for our coaches to completely forget that they have two good RBs to use, is beyond me. They have said that the lack of run attempts was because we were playing from behind. Last I checked, we were only down 7 at half. Should have been running the ball the entire first half like we did last year. Smith is mostly efficient, but he needs the threat of a run to be effective.

Yea, everything must be chaneled through the run in order for this team to be successful. The D counts on it, as well as the offense and special teams. The giants ran the offensive game plan we should have run. Pound the ball untill it works. Beat the secondary where ever you can, even if its with the #3 wr for ten yards here and there. Make the defense frustrated and tired.

Cool thoughts bro.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

*cricckets* Too long i guess?

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

*cricckets* Too long i guess?

Gonna get the fireplace going and some hot cocoa for this one

Stand by pretty much everything i said in OP, on OCT. 15. The only thing further i will add is this draft class not being able to contribute is hurting us badly.

Also Roman/Harbaugh need to start showing some humility and take some responsibility for these blunders.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Stand by pretty much everything i said in OP, on OCT. 15. The only thing further i will add is this draft class not being able to contribute is hurting us badly.

Also Roman/Harbaugh need to start showing some humility and take some responsibility for these blunders.

I don't buy the BS excuses anymore. "Well uh, we don't need them to contribute this year." Now we do, and James and Jenkins apparently still aren't ready to contribute. This draft so far doesn't pass the smell test and appears to be a disaster.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Stand by pretty much everything i said in OP, on OCT. 15. The only thing further i will add is this draft class not being able to contribute is hurting us badly.

Also Roman/Harbaugh need to start showing some humility and take some responsibility for these blunders.

I don't buy the BS excuses anymore. "Well uh, we don't need them to contribute this year." Now we do, and James and Jenkins apparently still aren't ready to contribute. This draft so far doesn't pass the smell test and appears to be a disaster.

agree, and have been saying so all season. The arguments against that stance are losing ground to stand on quickly.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I don't buy the BS excuses anymore. "Well uh, we don't need them to contribute this year." Now we do, and James and Jenkins apparently still aren't ready to contribute. This draft so far doesn't pass the smell test and appears to be a disaster.

I'm starting to agree. The fact that they still can't even dress for games when injuries opened up a spot is concerning. Either they suck, or the coaches are making a big mistake by sitting them. We could really use a change of pace runner and a big play receiver right now........