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dj43 · 2012-10-14T18:17:15-07:00

The 49ers were defeated today in all three phases of the game...make that all four phases. They were defeated on offense. They were defeated on defense. They were defeated on special teams. And they were defeated big time in the coaching department. The 49ers came out strong on offense and moved the ball down the field. They were in rhythm. They ran the ball well and they passed it well. Then Harbaugh/Roman decided to start playing with their toys instead of continuing to play the football that has resulted in victories. On four occasions they brought in Kaepernick in the middle of a nice drive and in 3 of those 4 situations the play was stuffed and it put the 49ers in a hole that resulted in a punt. Instead of continuing to run the ball the way they started they went to the passing game with some very predictable stuff that the Giants shut down easily. From there on the offense just went down hill. The Giants had scouted 49er tendencies very well. They took away Vernon Davis and with Davis gone, there were easily able to defend Crabtree and Manningham one-on-one which left the safeties to double and play the ball. Alex Smith was due for an off day and he had one but give the Giants credit for disguising coverages which made it even worse for Smith. The result was a mess. While the Giants were pounding Alex Smith with constant pressure, the 49er defense wasn't even in the same area code with Eli Manning. A good QB like Manning will kill any secondary, and when you add in a top level WR like Victor Cruz, it is child's play. His threat took the 49ers out of the standard coverages and left others wide open. (Exposed the 49ers need for a true #1 receiver along the way.) Kevin Gilbride stayed with the run game and as the front 7 began to tire from the fruitless attempts to pressure Manning, the run game put the 49ers into dreamland. Those gashes look like the San Andreas Fault. They were huge and distructive. On Special Teams...well, that gives me a headache. Something is missing. It is hard to believe that the loss of Jones' speed and Costanza personality have made this much difference but those are the only obvious things to be seen. Which brings me to coaching: The miscues started with the aforementioned Kapernick packages. Not only had NY scouted them well and stuffed them, they also came in the middle of drives that were in rhythm and were moving. Nothing against CK but changing things up at a time that they team was moving the ball against a quality defense just made no sense. It was Harbaugh just playing with toys and it backfired big time. Secondly, the offensive game plan was a virtual copy of what they tried to do against the Giants in the NFCC game. Nothing new other than the CK "surprises." Yes, MM had a couple of nice catches but Crabtree was completely shut down...again and Williams didn't seem to be in the picture much at all. In the meantime, screen passes, which are normally a good way to beat pressure, just were not in the game plan at all. With Gore seemingly given the day off after the first 13 minutes of the game, the 49ers were a one-dimensional train wreck from then on. Defensively the failure to pressure Manning was the single greatest deciding factor. This area befuddles me. When I first heard Vic Fangio was coming to SF as the defensive coordinator I was delighted. I've long been an admirer of the pressure schemes Dom Capers runs and the fact that Fangio tutored under Fangio led me to believe, or should I say hope, that Fangio would bring some of that and turn loose the tremendous LB talent on this team to make life miserable for opposing QBs. DISAPPOINTMENT is a mild word for how I feel about that. Instead of creative schemes that allow LBs to "do their thing," Fangio seems to be content to play the mano-a-mano style where you just hope your guy can beat their guy. Well, as we have seen, in this league one team rarely has that much of a talent gap so excepting the few occasions where Aldon Smith or Brooks have beaten their guy, consistent QB pressure remains missing on the team. Against a QB of the quality of Eli Manning, that spells disaster. Just as Buffalo found out against the 49ers last week, if you do not pressure a good QB, you are going to get shredded. It is the job of coaches to put players in a position to succeed, and very often that comes down to scheme. Today, Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman got taken out behind the woodshed for a coaching lesson from Tom Coughlin, Perry Fewell and Kevin Gilbride. Let's hope they learned from the lesson, and in a hurry. A very good Seattle team is coming in just three days.

Oct 16, 2012 at 10:03 AM

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mayo49
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Yeah, I agree. I like Alex, but just looking at it from Harbaugh's perspective, he used Kap alot on Sunday and just wondering if he'd yank Alex if he felt Kap could come in and give them a spark.

Oct 16, 2012 at 10:10 AM

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49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Quit getting cute with all the Wild Kap plays.

I think there's something brewing, more then trying to be cute

Divulge.
no clue, JH knows the game plan..shoot he's probably the one who had Roman call those plays ?

something is up though

I don't think it takes a scientist to figure out, that if Alex struggles and keeps having 3 int games, he's probably going to be seeing the bench.

yeah but JH was doing this before AS's worst game..unless JH is doing this on purpose ?

Oct 16, 2012 at 10:18 AM

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mayo49
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All I'm saying is that, I think from Harbaugh's stand point is he would be hesitant, but for the best of the team that if Alex reverts back to bad Alex he would put Kap in to add a spark if he thinks Alex is not having a good game.

[ Edited by mayo49 on Oct 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM ]

Oct 16, 2012 at 10:21 AM

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Jakemall
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Yeah, I agree. I like Alex, but just looking at it from Harbaugh's perspective, he used Kap alot on Sunday and just wondering if he'd yank Alex if he felt Kap could come in and give them a spark.

with an overthrown pass or a 11 yard sack? Which performance is supposed spark the team?

Oct 16, 2012 at 11:48 AM

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YouGotGored
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Originally posted by Allx9er:
Horrible game plan that horribly executed.

THIS. End thread.

Oct 16, 2012 at 12:09 PM

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I actually thought Alex should have been pulled after his third pick. Just because it was time for him to sit, not because I thought Kap would have done anything whatsoever.

Oct 16, 2012 at 12:09 PM

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49AllTheTime
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Harbaugh needs to be accountable,

We are one legged, in a two leg race

Oct 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM

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49erfeeeever808
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Quit getting cute with all the Wild Kap plays.

I think there's something brewing, more then trying to be cute

Divulge.
no clue, JH knows the game plan..shoot he's probably the one who had Roman call those plays ?

something is up though

.....personally i think Harbaugh is trying to figure out how much of the load Alex can handle. also maybe.......prepping to hand over to Kaep? maybe.... prep for the playoffs? also possible. maybe both who knows. could also be harbaugh is just trying to get everyone some quality PT.....

but enough experimenting though........... Alex works best playing off the run, and he needs it for him to be effective against the elite teams.

Oct 16, 2012 at 1:00 PM

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mayo49
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Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
I actually thought Alex should have been pulled after his third pick. Just because it was time for him to sit, not because I thought Kap would have done anything whatsoever.

I agree. The game was still in reach and Alex was throwing picks all over the place. It's just me, but I would have sat Alex and said, 'hey kid, it's not your day' and played to see if Kap could light a spark. That's all I'm saying.

[ Edited by mayo49 on Oct 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM ]

Oct 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

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49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
I actually thought Alex should have been pulled after his third pick. Just because it was time for him to sit, not because I thought Kap would have done anything whatsoever.

I agree. The game was still in reach and Alex was throwing picks all over the place. It's just me, but I would have sat Alex and sayed hey kid it's not your day and played to see if Kap could light a spark. That's all I'm saying.

it wouldn't surprise me if Kaep starts thursday

Oct 16, 2012 at 1:06 PM

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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 4evrfan:
Outplayed AND outcoached. Abandoning a running game that was working was the most inexplicable, especially when there was still time enough in the game for a comeback. Then, in a 4th quarter when we needed 3 TD's to win, there was no sense of urgency!? Yes, the Giants were the better team yesterday, but did we need to help them along with poor coaching decisions?

This. Very well put.

I concur. This game totally reminded me of the poor singletary era with poor coaching, play decisions, and no 2nd half adjustments. Total opposite game of last years conference playoff game except for the same lousy ending.