Out-coached!

two times this year

Well coughlin is the only HC not named Belichick to have multiple Super Bowl rings this decade. So he does seem to out coach other coaches most of the time

eh.

we were outplayed bro.

out-talented in many respects, namely, in the passing game and pass-rush. biggest keys to success in today's league.

Giants were like #1 scoring offense heading in to this game, and we held them to less points than their average even on so many short fields.


in games like this, you have to match that firepower. Alex f**ked up. Coaches didnt throw those bad passes. Or false start, or hold, etc.. Carols Rogers f**ked up too. Culliver was burnt a few times. Could they have done a better job game planning? Duh. But we were mostly outplayed. And outmanned. Our D Line rotation is inferior to NY's and that makes a huge difference.



What we are seeing is what our 2011 team looks like without week-in week-out dominance of our D.
The regression to the mean talk before the season (turnovers and injuries) was seemingly right, hurts to admit it.

And that means our offense must compensate for this performative decrease. It's the players who've failed to show they can do this against the better teams. I'm not naming anyone..

Originally posted by BayAreaNinersFan:
eh.

we were outplayed bro.

out-talented in many respects, namely, in the passing game and pass-rush. biggest keys to success in today's league.

Giants were like #1 scoring offense heading in to this game, and we held them to less points than their average even on so many short fields.


in games like this, you have to match that firepower. Alex f**ked up. Coaches didnt throw those bad passes. Or false start, or hold, etc.. Carols Rogers f**ked up too. Culliver was burnt a few times. Could they have done a better job game planning? Duh. But we were mostly outplayed. And outmanned. Our D Line rotation is inferior to NY's and that makes a huge difference.
Giants D played with intensity.

In the end, yes(bold), the 49ers were outplayed, BUT not until the coaching staff started tinkering with what has worked in the past.

The coverage that worked against Cruz in the NFCC game was discarded until Cruz had already burned them for one TD and caused a lot of disruption in the secondary in general. I've detailed my other complaints in the Out-Coached thread. I won't repeat them here.

Horrible game plan that was horribly executed.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by BayAreaNinersFan:
eh.

we were outplayed bro.

out-talented in many respects, namely, in the passing game and pass-rush. biggest keys to success in today's league.

Giants were like #1 scoring offense heading in to this game, and we held them to less points than their average even on so many short fields.


in games like this, you have to match that firepower. Alex f**ked up. Coaches didnt throw those bad passes. Or false start, or hold, etc.. Carols Rogers f**ked up too. Culliver was burnt a few times. Could they have done a better job game planning? Duh. But we were mostly outplayed. And outmanned. Our D Line rotation is inferior to NY's and that makes a huge difference.
Giants D played with intensity.

In the end, yes(bold), the 49ers were outplayed, BUT not until the coaching staff started tinkering with what has worked in the past.

The coverage that worked against Cruz in the NFCC game was discarded until Cruz had already burned them for one TD and caused a lot of disruption in the secondary in general. I've detailed my other complaints in the Out-Coached thread. I won't repeat them here.

i understand what you're saying. I'm just a lot more bummed about our roster right now than coaching...I had hoped the Vikings game was anomalous, but nope. I think the coaches will learn from this and improve schemes to a certain extent, but our lack of depth at DL and OLB is a huge concern.
And I just don't like Alex Smith as our QB when our defense doesn't show up, which as we see will happen some weeks this year.

surprise surprise. DJ43 is blaming the coaches AGAIN. Maybe once the Niners run through every single NFL and NCAA coach you can start to look at QB

Originally posted by BayAreaNinersFan:
i understand what you're saying. I'm just a lot more bummed about our roster right now than coaching...I had hoped the Vikings game was anomalous, but nope. I think the coaches will learn from this and improve schemes to a certain extent, but our lack of depth at DL and OLB is a huge concern.
And I just don't like Alex Smith as our QB when our defense doesn't show up, which as we see will happen some weeks this year.

I don't like Alex Smith as our QB when we start colin on 2nd down rather than starting Smith, and either way we need to handoff the ball to gore whoever is at QB, you want the D to show up, keep them off the field which we didn't do!

More like out played.

Originally posted by McLovinAlexSmith:

More like out played.

More like out QB'd

Originally posted by BayAreaNinersFan:
eh.

we were outplayed bro.

out-talented in many respects, namely, in the passing game and pass-rush. biggest keys to success in today's league.

Giants were like #1 scoring offense heading in to this game, and we held them to less points than their average even on so many short fields.


in games like this, you have to match that firepower. Alex f**ked up. Coaches didnt throw those bad passes. Or false start, or hold, etc.. Carols Rogers f**ked up too. Culliver was burnt a few times. Could they have done a better job game planning? Duh. But we were mostly outplayed. And outmanned. Our D Line rotation is inferior to NY's and that makes a huge difference.



What we are seeing is what our 2011 team looks like without week-in week-out dominance of our D.
The regression to the mean talk before the season (turnovers and injuries) was seemingly right, hurts to admit it.

And that means our offense must compensate for this performative decrease. It's the players who've failed to show they can do this against the better teams. I'm not naming anyone..

I only agree with you to a point because it was so blatantly obvious that we were outcoached to a degree I didn't think was possible. You're post is of course meant to critique Alex, which is fine because I agree. But all QB's are going to have bad games, several did today along with Alex, but to not have the other components of our team prepared for this game falls squarely on the coaches. To not make any meaningful adjustments at halftime was another massive coaching fail. They simply kept doing what they did in the 1st half thinking somehow we would get it to work. Instead, it was the Giants who adjusted. We got smoked.

You're simply trying to place blame more on Smith, than on anyone else. There's alot more that went on other than Alex.

It was just a bad game overall. Perhaps it was the 49ers started to read the press clippings more than they should, but mostly the Giants just giving us a good stomping.

My quick thoughts:

- Smith just had a bad game. Even on the opening drive there his passes were wobbly and that continued throughout the day.
- I think we can slow down the "CK is the next great thing" train a bit.
- Aldon who?
- Where were the WR's?

I think also some attention needs to be paid to the coaching because the 49ers only seem to want to max protect to counter blitzes. I thought part of the reason we drafted James and Jenkins was to open up the playcalling a bit. How about some screens or hitches? And I think the offense started to over think itself after that opening drive with the trick plays. When you are playing your brand of football (pounding the run and short passes) and its working, don't outsmart yourself. In the past they worked but good teams prepare and those avenues are being shut down.

The defense didn't do so well, but then again the offense was terrible after the 1st quarter so I would largely say they did "okay".

At first this year I was like yay were passing more. Now I hate it. Just run the rock like last year IDGAF if its not as fun to watch at least it's a W
And our D was aggressive and brought the pain and heat

Harbaugh/Roman/Vic f**k you guys