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Vote Smith for Fedex Air player of the week

the phoenix!!!
Originally posted by dtcomposer:
Originally posted by McLovinAlexSmith:
Originally posted by fastforward:
Originally posted by McLovinAlexSmith:
Originally posted by dtcomposer:
Originally posted by McLovinAlexSmith:
Brees gonna win his stats were superior and against a better team.

Which stats were better?

yards and tds

Not YPA or QBR however.

well they dont show those on the website.

That pretty much sums up why I don't take your QB analysis seriously. Congrats to Alex for getting some pointless award also.

niner fans must have stuffed the ballot box. good for him though he played good and deserves it.
Originally posted by McLovinAlexSmith:
Originally posted by dtcomposer:
Originally posted by McLovinAlexSmith:
Originally posted by fastforward:
Originally posted by McLovinAlexSmith:
Originally posted by dtcomposer:
Originally posted by McLovinAlexSmith:
Brees gonna win his stats were superior and against a better team.

Which stats were better?

yards and tds

Not YPA or QBR however.

well they dont show those on the website.

That pretty much sums up why I don't take your QB analysis seriously. Congrats to Alex for getting some pointless award also.

niner fans must have stuffed the ballot box. good for him though he played good and deserves it.

And I bet Saints fans did the same.

for Smitty
Alex Smith is 2-0 against Drew Brees in the last nine months. The 49ers quarterback edged out Brees and Colts quarterback Andrew Luck to win the FedEx "air" player of the week award. Smith threw three touchdowns and had 303 yards Sunday against the Bills, his first-ever 300-plus yard outing in a victory.

The two-year anniversary of the "We want Carr!" game was this week.




Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/10/pigs-fly-alex-smith-wins-award-based-on-fans-vote.html#storylink=cpy
Brees deserved it but I'm glad Alex got it.


BTW, this is a fan voting? I thought it was the expert who selected the winner. Oh wellz....
This was only one week ago? Really?
[ Edited by zillabeast on Oct 20, 2012 at 3:36 AM ]
Originally posted by zillabeast:
This was only one week ago? Really?

dude that sums up Alex's carear....which is why I've never really wanted to stick with him....

I've said it a thousand times here...there is nothing worse than an inconsistent player...and its ever more worse when that player is your QB....then the fact that its your #1 draft pick that you invested alot of money in.

Alex seems like one of the coolest people out there...not just for an athlete but as a regular person. It is so easy to want to root for the guy. But man, its just something with his head.
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I'm trying to think back to any QB that might have been similar to him....I know some like to joke and compare him to Steve Deburg..."just good enough to get you beat" or what ever....but no, there has to be someone else.

Like I said, you would rather have a horrible QB than an inconsistent one...because at least with a horrible QB, you know what the problem is and you can move on...but with a QB like Alex, he works hard...teammates love playing with him and stick up for him...seems smart...can play well to amazing....then bam....this is not the first time.

back in 2006 Alex played well late in the season....he was able to knock off the Broncos out of the playoffs, AT DENVER..one of the hardest places to play....he used all of his skill sets...running, passing, passing on the run.

look at this drive...Alex played well BEFORE Harbaugh...heck the key pass that got us into field goal range vs Denver, Alex did something he rarely does even now....he threw it BEFORE Gilmore turned around.


Matt Ryan just went from a a 89 passer rating to a 59 in his recent games.

Joe Flacco's been all over the place... from a 66 to a 117 to a 55 rating.

Matt Schaub went from a 115 to a 71 to a 56 in his recent games.

Don't even get me started on the Romos and Rivers of the league.

Tom Brady had a 79 rating against the Hawks where as Alex had a 74.. oh nooeezzz..


The point is, this whole consistency can happen for stretches with some QBs.. but it is not something that happens frequently enough with QBs to be relied upon. QBs have good days and bad days... and generally the difference between comes down to how well OTHER aspects of the offense performed as well... team game and all.

Pointing to Alex as wildly inconsistent pretty well points to about 25+ other QB starters as well.

We get it. You want him out and will throw every little thing out in the WZ to disparage him. Not angry, so don't read all of this that way. I'm just disappointed not just in the opinions of fellow fans... but in how often they feel the need to pile on the same opinion. But just saying... this "consistency" myth gets old.

Away from that thought for a moment... Do you think there has ever been a forum with so many fans bashing their starting QB that has an 18-5 record including a remarkable comeback playoff victory? (relatively speaking, of course)
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Matt Ryan just went from a a 89 passer rating to a 59 in his recent games.

Joe Flacco's been all over the place... from a 66 to a 117 to a 55 rating.

Matt Schaub went from a 115 to a 71 to a 56 in his recent games.

Don't even get me started on the Romos and Rivers of the league.

Tom Brady had a 79 rating against the Hawks where as Alex had a 74.. oh nooeezzz..


The point is, this whole consistency can happen for stretches with some QBs.. but it is not something that happens frequently enough with QBs to be relied upon. QBs have good days and bad days... and generally the difference between comes down to how well OTHER aspects of the offense performed as well... team game and all.

Pointing to Alex as wildly inconsistent pretty well points to about 25+ other QB starters as well.

We get it. You want him out and will throw every little thing out in the WZ to disparage him. Not angry, so don't read all of this that way. I'm just disappointed not just in the opinions of fellow fans... but in how often they feel the need to pile on the same opinion. But just saying... this "consistency" myth gets old.

Away from that thought for a moment... Do you think there has ever been a forum with so many fans bashing their starting QB that has an 18-5 record including a remarkable comeback playoff victory? (relatively speaking, of course)

Get outta here. No one on the board wants to hear that. The facts are he is suxors and he didn't help win any games since the arrival of Harbaugh and co.
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Matt Ryan just went from a a 89 passer rating to a 59 in his recent games.

Joe Flacco's been all over the place... from a 66 to a 117 to a 55 rating.

Matt Schaub went from a 115 to a 71 to a 56 in his recent games.

Don't even get me started on the Romos and Rivers of the league.

Tom Brady had a 79 rating against the Hawks where as Alex had a 74.. oh nooeezzz..


The point is, this whole consistency can happen for stretches with some QBs.. but it is not something that happens frequently enough with QBs to be relied upon. QBs have good days and bad days... and generally the difference between comes down to how well OTHER aspects of the offense performed as well... team game and all.

Pointing to Alex as wildly inconsistent pretty well points to about 25+ other QB starters as well.

We get it. You want him out and will throw every little thing out in the WZ to disparage him. Not angry, so don't read all of this that way. I'm just disappointed not just in the opinions of fellow fans... but in how often they feel the need to pile on the same opinion. But just saying... this "consistency" myth gets old.

Away from that thought for a moment... Do you think there has ever been a forum with so many fans bashing their starting QB that has an 18-5 record including a remarkable comeback playoff victory? (relatively speaking, of course)

The difference with those guys and Alex is their passer rating comes from making real NFL throws and they are asked to be the focal point of the offense against other good teams. Alex's passer rating is based on simple reads and GRows play design. He's horrible (yes, horrible) when asked to execute without using a simple script. His completions are elementry school style.

Alex Smith has the #1 ranked defense. The number 1 ranked running game and plays against 8 and 9 man fronts. Yet, he still cant put up TDs against very solid defenses. He was absolute crap vs the Jets, Giants and Hawks.

In the words of Justin Smith: Stats are for losers. And before you go on to quote our TEAM record, answer this question: Is Smith WINNING his battle at QB? Is he scoring TDs and moving the chains? I'd say no. Luckily for him, the other pieces of the TEAM are playing at a high level.
[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Oct 20, 2012 at 7:16 AM ]
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
The difference with those guys and Alex is their passer rating comes from making real NFL throws and they are asked to be the focal point of the offense against other good teams. Alex's passer rating is based on simple reads and GRows play design. He's horrible (yes, horrible) when asked to execute without using a simple script. His completions are elementry school style.

Alex Smith has the #1 ranked defense. The number 1 ranked running game and plays against 8 and 9 man fronts. Yet, he still cant put up TDs against very solid defenses. He was absolute crap vs the Jets, Giants and Hawks.

In the words of Justin Smith: Stats are for losers. And before you go on to quote our TEAM record, answer this question: Is Smith WINNING his battle at QB? Is he scoring TDs and moving the chains? I'd say no. Luckily for him, the other pieces of the TEAM are playing at a high level.

don't think I care for your hostile attitude.. so I will answer nothing from such posts as this. It is a post like yours that lessens the WZ. All I will say is that if Alex was even remotely as horrible as you'd like to think he is? Then we must have a horrible HC/OC, and backup QB that can't replace Alex.
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
The difference with those guys and Alex is their passer rating comes from making real NFL throws and they are asked to be the focal point of the offense against other good teams. Alex's passer rating is based on simple reads and GRows play design. He's horrible (yes, horrible) when asked to execute without using a simple script. His completions are elementry school style.

Alex Smith has the #1 ranked defense. The number 1 ranked running game and plays against 8 and 9 man fronts. Yet, he still cant put up TDs against very solid defenses. He was absolute crap vs the Jets, Giants and Hawks.

In the words of Justin Smith: Stats are for losers. And before you go on to quote our TEAM record, answer this question: Is Smith WINNING his battle at QB? Is he scoring TDs and moving the chains? I'd say no. Luckily for him, the other pieces of the TEAM are playing at a high level.

Agree with you in principle but not in degree. Alex does seem to need to be protected within the system because he's indecisive, gets tunnel vision when the play breaks down, won't put the ball up and let his receivers make a play on it. But even so he's not THAT bad. Top tier, elite? Probably not, probably never. But like you said, this team has the #1 defense, and the rest of the team is playing at a high level.

FOR THE MOST PART he delivers what we need and whole not stellar he is far from being in that Rex Grossman tier of QBs. Where he is, it's a long and difficult jump to that next level and the guys at that next level are rarely available.
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Matt Ryan just went from a a 89 passer rating to a 59 in his recent games.

Joe Flacco's been all over the place... from a 66 to a 117 to a 55 rating.

Matt Schaub went from a 115 to a 71 to a 56 in his recent games.

Don't even get me started on the Romos and Rivers of the league.

Tom Brady had a 79 rating against the Hawks where as Alex had a 74.. oh nooeezzz..


The point is, this whole consistency can happen for stretches with some QBs.. but it is not something that happens frequently enough with QBs to be relied upon. QBs have good days and bad days... and generally the difference between comes down to how well OTHER aspects of the offense performed as well... team game and all.

Pointing to Alex as wildly inconsistent pretty well points to about 25+ other QB starters as well.

We get it. You want him out and will throw every little thing out in the WZ to disparage him. Not angry, so don't read all of this that way. I'm just disappointed not just in the opinions of fellow fans... but in how often they feel the need to pile on the same opinion. But just saying... this "consistency" myth gets old.

Away from that thought for a moment... Do you think there has ever been a forum with so many fans bashing their starting QB that has an 18-5 record including a remarkable comeback playoff victory? (relatively speaking, of course)

Great Post Ol...er...Mac! Compare Smith's three interception game, where the entire team played poorly and NY was in control the whole day, with River's three interceptions turning an almost sure win into a loss. Romo? Same thing. And all QBs have "bad" days but most bad days include other players failing to support. VD mentioned this after the NYG game, that he felt bad he and others made mistakes that let Smith down.

But we know many on this board have an agenda that is more important than wins and losses. 5-2 and on our way to the playoffs!
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Oct 20, 2012 at 8:06 AM ]