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Oct 8, 2012 at 2:31 PM
- goldstandard
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You hurt my head.
Oct 8, 2012 at 2:32 PM
- NinerBuff
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Interesting that Seattle is ranked above the Rams and Cardinals, but lost to both of them and has an equal or worse record.
Oct 8, 2012 at 2:33 PM
- nickbradley
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Originally posted by goldstandard333:
You hurt my head.
Pythagorean is used in Baseball. Here's the formula for the NFL - its simple:
[points scored]^2.37 / ([points scored]^2.37 + [points allowed]^2.37])
Oct 8, 2012 at 2:34 PM
- Cjez
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Oct 8, 2012 at 2:36 PM
- nickbradley
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Interesting that Seattle is ranked above the Rams and Cardinals, but lost to both of them and has an equal or worse record.
SEA and ARI are so close that they're basically tied...and you remember how close that game was, right?
Also, there is no strength of schedule here.
** According to Footballoutsiders.com, the Arizona Cardinals have has the 2nd most difficult schedule through 4 weeks. Seattle? 18th. And those schedule differences won't change much this week.
^ so there's your explanation. STL had the 10th toughest schedule.
Oct 8, 2012 at 2:37 PM
- NinerBuff
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Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Interesting that Seattle is ranked above the Rams and Cardinals, but lost to both of them and has an equal or worse record.
SEA and ARI are so close that they're basically tied...and you remember how close that game was, right?
Also, there is no strength of schedule here.
** According to Footballoutsiders.com, the Arizona Cardinals have has the 2nd most difficult schedule through 4 weeks. Seattle? 18th. And those schedule differences won't change much this week.
^ so there's your explanation. STL had the 10th toughest schedule.
Thanks, good stuff.
FWIW, I would say our division would go...
49ers
Rams
Seahawks
Cardinals
Oct 8, 2012 at 2:41 PM
- nickbradley
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Thanks, good stuff.
FWIW, I would say our division would go...
49ers
Rams
Seahawks
Cardinals
I would put the Cards over the Seahawks because they played the Patriots and Eagles, beating the Pats and destroying the Eagles.
Seattle should have 1 - 2 wins.
Oct 8, 2012 at 2:43 PM
- Allx9er
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Whatever happened to w vs. l
Oct 8, 2012 at 2:46 PM
- nickbradley
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Originally posted by Allx9er:
Whatever happened to w vs. l
See: Green Bay Packers @ Seattle Seahawks
Oct 8, 2012 at 3:07 PM
- johnnyredneat
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Originally posted by nickbradley:Originally posted by goldstandard333:You hurt my head.
Pythagorean is used in Baseball. Here's the formula for the NFL - its simple:
[points scored]^2.37 / ([points scored]^2.37 + [points allowed]^2.37])
In more real world terms: points scored vs. points allowed is usually a better way to measure "who's better?" than just wins and losses. The niners, texans and bears are regularly blowing teams out, which indicates more strength than the falcons' 5-0 record with several very close wins.
A win is a win, some say? Maybe. But against Carolina, the falcons won only because 1) cam newton fumbles for no reason with the game clinching first down in hand; 2) the panthers' idiot coach punts instead of going for it on fourth and short to clinch the win; 3) the panthers' idiot defenders somehow bite on a play action fake with Atlanta needing 70 yards to win with 50 seconds left and no time outs.
In other words, their win was mostly luck/opponent idiocy and not really indicative of future success
Oct 8, 2012 at 3:09 PM
- Cjez
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Jets are gonna win tonight.
Oct 8, 2012 at 3:12 PM
- NinerBuff
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Jets are gonna win tonight.
I would be shocked!
Oct 8, 2012 at 3:24 PM
- vaden
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Interesting that Seattle is ranked above the Rams and Cardinals, but lost to both of them and has an equal or worse record.
I still think Seattle is better, though the Rams may be better later this season if they can finally stay healthy.
Oct 8, 2012 at 3:27 PM
- vaden
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Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by Allx9er:
Whatever happened to w vs. l
See: Green Bay Packers @ Seattle Seahawks

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