Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by sfout:
You're not understanding me. The entire point of the Vikings staying with the running game was they were satisfied getting those 2.5 yards per play for first and 2nd down and then on 3 and 5 Ponder would do a bubble screen for Harvin that would go for 9 yards and first.
Or you could switch the plays and on first down Harvin would take a screen 9 yards and on second or 3rd down AP would take the ball in the hole for 2 yards and get a first.
I'm not saying they ran the ball well. They just ran the ball. PERIOD. Being content with gaining 2.5 yards a play enabled them to have convertible 3rd downs of 5 yards or less and Harvin would set up even more manageable 3rd downs with those bubble screens.
The vikings didn't run all over us for 150 yards but they forced us to stay honest and the receivers would sit down in holes in the zone schemes and catch 10-15 yard passes. They beat us by forcing to account for AP, even if he only got 1 yard a play we had to say okay AP is getting the rock and then Ponder does a play action to a receiver sitting in zone 10 yards down field and they get a first.
end of discussion, we won the game in terms containing the run game but because it was AP and not Kevin Smith(detroit) we had to be more honest and play zone coverage so we could converge on AP quicker.
Dude, Kevin Smith ran for 3.3 yards per carry! 16 rushes.
Exactly jesus christ, we played more relaxed against detroit because it was pass heavy so he averaged 0.7 yards more then AP if by your own words you discount APs big run in the 4th. We had to play more run based defense in this game because it was AP. God you really dont want to hear constructive criticism about this team do you?
3.3 YPC from Kevin Smith happend because we were guarding Calvin Johnson, Brandon Pettigrew, and Titus Young while they were catching passes from Stafford. There was almost no run threat there so we let him get more yards.
2.5 YPC (again your own words because you wont factor in APs long run) happened because we were playing a more balanced team and had to defend against bubble screens from Harvin and runs from AP.
Its painfully obvious you are just ranting and not listening to what I am saying that we had to play stiffer run D against an all-pro running back in Adrian Peterson and we had to play stiffer pass defense against an all-pro receiver in Calvin Johnson.
The Vikings said "F**k it we might not hit home runs but if we keep getting 2 yards per carry then they have to worry about that single hole opening up and letting AP get a long TD. and when they start playing zone run schemes and crowding the box we'll do short dump offs to Harvin and Rudolph. We'll take the 2 yard run and add in a 10 yard pass. Boom 12 yards and first down, chain keeps moving. We will this every time and get down the field."
We lost because we got out "49ered" -- The vikings pounded the rock with AP, taking those 2 yards for 2 straight downs and then on 3rd and 6 they would do a high percentage bubble screen to Harvin and he'd get the first down with YAC.