SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS. GREEN BAY PACKERS GAMEDAY THREAD (Week 1)

We'll know just how good S.F. really is after this one. I think the 9ers match up well against the Packers but if I was betting my money I would probably put it on Green Bay in week one.

Defense wins championships and we have a swarming D that has speed and relentlessness unlike last time we played you. And we have superior coaching staff across the board.Don't be surprised if we knock Aaron Rodgers out of the game. That should be your biggest hope is that we can't get to him, but I think it worries you a bit because your ol is average. And we have a stud in Aldon Smith. You probably never heard of him so don't worry about him. Ha!

And what? Aaron Rodgers has never played a good defense before? He played against a better defense in the Super Bowl and hung 31 points on them along with 300+ yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, and a 100+ QB Rating.

Its all about the QB. The last 9 Super Bowls were won by the following QBs; Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, and Tom Brady. Its the most important position in all of sports and Rodgers is the best in the business. You can't downplay that. I think it will be a competitive hard fought game but in the end I think Rodgers will make more plays than Alex Smith. He isn't like other QBs in the NFL. He doesn't rattle easily and is difficult to contain in the offense. His internal time-clock is impeccable and he has an uncanny feel for the rush and escaping pressure. The right side of the line is pretty stout and those guys do a good job of providing escape alleys for Rodgers. The LT is a bit of a liability but Rodgers tends to move to his right anyway.

It will be a close game either way.

He lit up a better defensive unit than the 49ers in the Super Bowl dude. That 2010 Steelers defense was one of the best defenses of the past 10+ years. They gave up just 68 YPG at 3.0 YPC and allowed the 2nd lowest opposing QB Rating in the league. A more complete defense than the 49ers. A stout run-stopping DL, two premiere edge rushers in Woodley and Harrison, and then a solid secondary with one of the best players in the game at Safety. A legendary DC in Dick Lebeau.

Did you watch that Chiefs game? The Packers lost both of their starting Tackles in the same game after they were already missing their starting LT to begin with. The Packers WRs and TEs dropped a bunch of passes in that game. Its funny that so many people want to point out the Chiefs and Giants games and forget the 21 wins out of the Packers previous 23 games. Seriously, in the Chiefs and Giants game the Packers offense was simply sloppy. The Giants didn't lay a whooping on the Packers. The score says that. The Box Score doesn't. The Packers possessed the ball more, had more 1st downs, and outrushed the Giants in that game almost 2:1. The Packers dropped more passes in that game than any team did all season and they also turned over the ball 4 times. Something they hadn't done in years. It was simpy a very uncharacteristic game for the Packers. The Packers actually beat the Giants in most gameday stats. You can't win when you turnover the ball four times though.

Go, Niners, go!

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
i have a feeling we will be running a lot this game

the packers can not stop the run AT ALL i mean at all its literally sad

i think we run 30 times and only pass it maybe around 20-25

i have never seen such a bad run defense in my life

Dating back to 2010, the Packers give the illusion that they are a poor run defense. In most cases where they have to stop the run they excel at it. Remember the opening game against the Saints last year. The Packers stuffed the Saints a bunch of times on 3rd and short and goal line situation. The Saints even got a free play on the 1 yard line at the end of the game. That's a pretty stout Saints interior OL and a top-notch running game. The Packers stuffed them all game long.

The Packers will give up a fairly YPC but you don't really see very many big rushing performances against them because more times than not they are playign with a lead in their nickel package and the other team will have some success with selective running and rip off a few 6-8+ yard runs when they are down by double digits late in the game.

I think you are severely exagerrating that you have never seen a worse run defense. Dude, they aren't that bad. People overhype how bad the defense is. They were middle of the pack in PPG and were tied wtih the 49ers for most turnovers in the NFL. They had their flaws last year but you can't go 15-1 with a truly awful defense. They make their share of game changing plays. I constantly see fans salivating at the mouth about playing such a "terrible defense" only to be stunned when their QB throws three picks. Don't sleep on the Packers defense. Its not nearly as bad as you think it is. The Packers had a defense in 2010 every bit as good as the 49ers did in 2011. Things change year to year. Just because the 49ers were stout on defense last year doesn't mean they will this year. A couple of key injuries can totally change the outlook on a season. If anything I would say that 2010 Packers defense was better because they excelled at shutting down good QBs. They held a red-hot Tom Brady to just 160 passing yards. A guy that was carving up the league in a historically good passing season. They held the vaunted Patriots offense to 136 net passing yards. They held the Eagles to 171 net passing yards.

Well the UK TV deal has just been agreed, that's Sunday night sorted then


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Originally posted by strat1080:
Blah blah blah, I'm bringing up 2010 like it matters. Blah blah blah the Packers never get beat, they're always the best team, they give away every loss they suffer. (paraphrasing)

Doesn't really merit further response.

Originally posted by strat1080:
Dating back to 2010, the Packers give the illusion that they are a poor run defense. In most cases where they have to stop the run they excel at it. Remember the opening game against the Saints last year. The Packers stuffed the Saints a bunch of times on 3rd and short and goal line situation. The Saints even got a free play on the 1 yard line at the end of the game. That's a pretty stout Saints interior OL and a top-notch running game. The Packers stuffed them all game long.

Wow, you were able to stop the world famous Saints power rushing game? I can't even remember who their QB is because all the Saints do is run run run. I can't believe the Packers cheese curtain was able to stop them.

Rodgers on Alex Smith...

Originally posted by strat1080:
Dating back to 2010, the Packers give the illusion that they are a poor run defense. In most cases where they have to stop the run they excel at it. Remember the opening game against the Saints last year. The Packers stuffed the Saints a bunch of times on 3rd and short and goal line situation. The Saints even got a free play on the 1 yard line at the end of the game. That's a pretty stout Saints interior OL and a top-notch running game. The Packers stuffed them all game long.

The Packers will give up a fairly YPC but you don't really see very many big rushing performances against them because more times than not they are playign with a lead in their nickel package and the other team will have some success with selective running and rip off a few 6-8+ yard runs when they are down by double digits late in the game.

I think you are severely exagerrating that you have never seen a worse run defense. Dude, they aren't that bad. People overhype how bad the defense is. They were middle of the pack in PPG and were tied wtih the 49ers for most turnovers in the NFL. They had their flaws last year but you can't go 15-1 with a truly awful defense. They make their share of game changing plays. I constantly see fans salivating at the mouth about playing such a "terrible defense" only to be stunned when their QB throws three picks. Don't sleep on the Packers defense. Its not nearly as bad as you think it is. The Packers had a defense in 2010 every bit as good as the 49ers did in 2011. Things change year to year. Just because the 49ers were stout on defense last year doesn't mean they will this year. A couple of key injuries can totally change the outlook on a season. If anything I would say that 2010 Packers defense was better because they excelled at shutting down good QBs. They held a red-hot Tom Brady to just 160 passing yards. A guy that was carving up the league in a historically good passing season. They held the vaunted Patriots offense to 136 net passing yards. They held the Eagles to 171 net passing yards.

The packers gave up the most yards ever in 2011, how have they improved since then? This post is laughable trying to say that the pack had a better defense than the Niners, you lost credibility there.

Originally posted by strat1080:

Defense wins championships and we have a swarming D that has speed and relentlessness unlike last time we played you. And we have superior coaching staff across the board.Don't be surprised if we knock Aaron Rodgers out of the game. That should be your biggest hope is that we can't get to him, but I think it worries you a bit because your ol is average. And we have a stud in Aldon Smith. You probably never heard of him so don't worry about him. Ha!

And what? Aaron Rodgers has never played a good defense before? He played against a better defense in the Super Bowl and hung 31 points on them along with 300+ yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, and a 100+ QB Rating.

Its all about the QB. The last 9 Super Bowls were won by the following QBs; Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, and Tom Brady. Its the most important position in all of sports and Rodgers is the best in the business. You can't downplay that. I think it will be a competitive hard fought game but in the end I think Rodgers will make more plays than Alex Smith. He isn't like other QBs in the NFL. He doesn't rattle easily and is difficult to contain in the offense. His internal time-clock is impeccable and he has an uncanny feel for the rush and escaping pressure. The right side of the line is pretty stout and those guys do a good job of providing escape alleys for Rodgers. The LT is a bit of a liability but Rodgers tends to move to his right anyway.

that turns into a huge liability going against justin & aldon smith.......................

we beat Eli, Brees, and (injured) Big ben last year also.

Rodgers making more plays than Alex is probably a given (game manager? who cares the niners are a complete team), but the niners will rely on the run more than anything. Gore is aging, but the depth/variety at RB is what makes the niners more unique on O.

(i say "probably a given" only because although we did upgrade at WR, i don't know how much we'll deviate from last years style because of it. and who knows, maybe Urban Meyer's "once he gets it, he gets it" comment will finally come true.)

we'll probably give up a lot of passing yards, probably close to 350 range. did it a lot all of last season. but that's usually part of the plan. Make opponent one dimensional, then beat up the QB.

i'm not dismissing the pack though because "their D suxx." the players are still there. but this game can go either way. final score should be within one score.

Am I a little concerned about Rodgers and the Packers passing attack? Sure I think most Niner fans are.

But for a Packer fan to come in here boasting how they can stop our rush and how all of the sudden they're a good run stopping team is complete denial and stupidity. Packers fanssshould be worried about only having the ball for like 10 minutes the whole game. Cue packer fan saying "that's all we'll need."

Lol keep dreaming. Why don't you guys say what you really think. That it will be a hard fought game that will be closer than anyone thinks.

You can't talk football with most packers fans. They only know Green Bay ball. Thats obvious by the fact that this guy says the packers lit up a better defense in their playoff LOSS to the Giants last season. I didn't think it was possible to light up defense that kicked your a$$. Giants defense is stellar across the board but this defense is better. We didn't have any WR's and that was our problem. Take Victor Cruz off that team and the Giants aren't even in that game. Not to mention we had already beaten the Giants once.

GO NINERS! Sick of all these Green Bay pecker homers!

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Am I a little concerned about Rodgers and the Packers passing attack? Sure I think most Niner fans are.

But for a Packer fan to come in here boasting how they can stop our rush and how all of the sudden they're a good run stopping team is complete denial and stupidity. Packers fanssshould be worried about only having the ball for like 10 minutes the whole game. Cue packer fan saying "that's all we'll need."

Lol keep dreaming. Why don't you guys say what you really think. That it will be a hard fought game that will be closer than anyone thinks.

If we beat GB, there's a great chance we go undefeated until the bye week.