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Aug 19, 2012 at 8:36 PM
- susweel
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When are the cut down dates ?
Aug 19, 2012 at 10:56 PM
- AB81Rules
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Originally posted by susweel:
When are the cut down dates ?
28th is down to 75 or 80, I see conflicting info, during one game said 75 and on espn.com says 80, so I dont know for sure.
I think the 1st is down to 53, might be 31st, which seems odd to cut down to 75 or 80 and then a few days later down to 53.
Some obvious ones IMO as making it are below
QB- Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick
Alex's deal is guaranteed, and while I believe we can win with any QB in this system, he is the best of the bunch for now. And Kaep hasn't looked like a 2nd rd pick, and quite frankly I wouldn't put him in the top 3 QBs, but he got good bonus money so he sticks.
RB- Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, Brandon Jacobs(Active 53 or PUP), LaMichael James and Rock Cartwright
Gore isn't heading anywhere, he still has some fight left in him. Hunter seems like a new back, he is powerful, and fast as can be. Jacobs is here, whether it's 53 man or PUP to open season, James was a 2nd rd pick and needs development, and people don't know how the system works, can't put James on P-Squad, he needs to clear waivers, and no way he clears. And Rock will be our ST Ace plus a backup Returner if needed.
FB- Bruce Miller
Obvious, he has looked nice in preseason.
WR- Michael Crabtree, Mario Manningham, Randy Moss, Ted Ginn Jr., and A.J. Jenkins
Crabtree, Manningham and Jenkins are locks due to money owed and are talented. Moss is a lock now because he hasn't done anything wrong to deserve to be cut. Ginn is our only legit returner, no way we should go with Williams, James or anyone else to be full time returner, can't stick anyone back there, it's a disaster waiting to happen. I dont put Kyle Williams in there because I still think he has work to do.
TE- Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker
Obvious neither are heading anywhere.
OL- Goodwin, A.Davis, Staley, Iupati, Boone, Kilgore
Solid OL, needs to gel better, but we will be good in season.
DL- Justin, Sopoaga, McDonald, RJF and Dobbs
All 5 are locks, they have done or are up to level to deserve roles on team. I can see the team having Ian or Tukuafu on 53 man to open spot for another spot
LB- Aldon, Brooks, Willis, Bowman, Grant and Gooden
Same as DL, all deserve it, Haralson does if they feel ok with low cap space.
DB- Rogers, Brown, Goldson, Whitner, Cully, Cox, Spillman
Same as DL and LB, all deserve or earned in deals signed or last year play. Comes down will we keep Brock or go for a vet with better potential for now, since we are ready NOW. 4th Safety is Robinson or Thomas, with neither looking all that good.
ST- Akers, Lee and Jennings
No comment, lol.
At this point I would rather keep all 4 QBs, and go less on either LB or DL. But I think Harbaugh will decide who he thinks is best fit.
Aug 20, 2012 at 12:02 AM
- GEEK
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My 53 Roster -
QB: Smith/Kaepernick/Tolzien
RB: Gore/Hunter/Jacobs/James
FB: Miller
TE: Davis/Walker/Reuland
WR: Crabtree/Moss/Jenkins
WR: Manningham/Williams/Ginn
LT: Staley/Person
LG: Iupati/Looney
C: Goodwin/Kilgore
RG: Boone/Davis
RT: Davis
LE: Smith/Jean-Francois
NT: Sopoaga/Williams
RE: McDonald/Dobbs
OLB: Smith/Haralson
ILB: Willis/Grant
ILB: Bowman/Gooden
OLB: Brooks/Bakhtiari
CB: Rogers/Cox/Brock
CB: Brown/Culliver
FS: Goldson/Robinson
SS: Whitner/Spillman/Jones
ST: Akers, Lee, Jennings
QB: Smith/Kaepernick/Tolzien
RB: Gore/Hunter/Jacobs/James
FB: Miller
TE: Davis/Walker/Reuland
WR: Crabtree/Moss/Jenkins
WR: Manningham/Williams/Ginn
LT: Staley/Person
LG: Iupati/Looney
C: Goodwin/Kilgore
RG: Boone/Davis
RT: Davis
LE: Smith/Jean-Francois
NT: Sopoaga/Williams
RE: McDonald/Dobbs
OLB: Smith/Haralson
ILB: Willis/Grant
ILB: Bowman/Gooden
OLB: Brooks/Bakhtiari
CB: Rogers/Cox/Brock
CB: Brown/Culliver
FS: Goldson/Robinson
SS: Whitner/Spillman/Jones
ST: Akers, Lee, Jennings
Aug 20, 2012 at 8:51 AM
- NeeJ49er
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Originally posted by GEEK:
My 53 Roster -
QB: Smith/Kaepernick/Tolzien
RB: Gore/Hunter/Jacobs/James
FB: Miller
TE: Davis/Walker/Reuland
WR: Crabtree/Moss/Jenkins
WR: Manningham/Williams/Ginn
LT: Staley/Person
LG: Iupati/Looney
C: Goodwin/Kilgore
RG: Boone/Davis
RT: Davis
LE: Smith/Jean-Francois
NT: Sopoaga/Williams
RE: McDonald/Dobbs
OLB: Smith/Haralson
ILB: Willis/Grant
ILB: Bowman/Gooden
OLB: Brooks/Bakhtiari
CB: Rogers/Cox/Brock
CB: Brown/Culliver
FS: Goldson/Robinson
SS: Whitner/Spillman/Jones
ST: Akers, Lee, Jennings
Agreed ...thats a solid team
Aug 20, 2012 at 9:05 AM
- SoCold
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Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by susweel:
When are the cut down dates ?
28th is down to 75 or 80, I see conflicting info, during one game said 75 and on espn.com says 80, so I dont know for sure.
I think the 1st is down to 53, might be 31st, which seems odd to cut down to 75 or 80 and then a few days later down to 53.
Some obvious ones IMO as making it are below
QB- Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick
Alex's deal is guaranteed, and while I believe we can win with any QB in this system, he is the best of the bunch for now. And Kaep hasn't looked like a 2nd rd pick, and quite frankly I wouldn't put him in the top 3 QBs, but he got good bonus money so he sticks.
RB- Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, Brandon Jacobs(Active 53 or PUP), LaMichael James and Rock Cartwright
Gore isn't heading anywhere, he still has some fight left in him. Hunter seems like a new back, he is powerful, and fast as can be. Jacobs is here, whether it's 53 man or PUP to open season, James was a 2nd rd pick and needs development, and people don't know how the system works, can't put James on P-Squad, he needs to clear waivers, and no way he clears. And Rock will be our ST Ace plus a backup Returner if needed.
FB- Bruce Miller
Obvious, he has looked nice in preseason.
WR- Michael Crabtree, Mario Manningham, Randy Moss, Ted Ginn Jr., and A.J. Jenkins
Crabtree, Manningham and Jenkins are locks due to money owed and are talented. Moss is a lock now because he hasn't done anything wrong to deserve to be cut. Ginn is our only legit returner, no way we should go with Williams, James or anyone else to be full time returner, can't stick anyone back there, it's a disaster waiting to happen. I dont put Kyle Williams in there because I still think he has work to do.
TE- Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker
Obvious neither are heading anywhere.
OL- Goodwin, A.Davis, Staley, Iupati, Boone, Kilgore
Solid OL, needs to gel better, but we will be good in season.
DL- Justin, Sopoaga, McDonald, RJF and Dobbs
All 5 are locks, they have done or are up to level to deserve roles on team. I can see the team having Ian or Tukuafu on 53 man to open spot for another spot
LB- Aldon, Brooks, Willis, Bowman, Grant and Gooden
Same as DL, all deserve it, Haralson does if they feel ok with low cap space.
DB- Rogers, Brown, Goldson, Whitner, Cully, Cox, Spillman
Same as DL and LB, all deserve or earned in deals signed or last year play. Comes down will we keep Brock or go for a vet with better potential for now, since we are ready NOW. 4th Safety is Robinson or Thomas, with neither looking all that good.
ST- Akers, Lee and Jennings
No comment, lol.
At this point I would rather keep all 4 QBs, and go less on either LB or DL. But I think Harbaugh will decide who he thinks is best fit.
they did 80 last year because of the short pre season
This year the cut down day is one day earlier than normal because the season starts on a Wed
Mon Aug 27th by 4pm ET teams must cut to 75 players
Fri Aug 31st by 9pm ET teams must cut to 53 players
Aug 20, 2012 at 11:02 AM
- Gore_21
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Originally posted by GEEK:
My 53 Roster -
QB: Smith/Kaepernick/Tolzien
RB: Gore/Hunter/Jacobs/James
FB: Miller
TE: Davis/Walker/Reuland
WR: Crabtree/Moss/Jenkins
WR: Manningham/Williams/Ginn
LT: Staley/Person
LG: Iupati/Looney
C: Goodwin/Kilgore
RG: Boone/Davis
RT: Davis
LE: Smith/Jean-Francois
NT: Sopoaga/Williams
RE: McDonald/Dobbs
OLB: Smith/Haralson
ILB: Willis/Grant
ILB: Bowman/Gooden
OLB: Brooks/Bakhtiari
CB: Rogers/Cox/Brock
CB: Brown/Culliver
FS: Goldson/Robinson
SS: Whitner/Spillman/Jones
ST: Akers, Lee, Jennings
I like this but I think Will Tukuafu makes the roster. Might have to substitute him for Jones, Reuland or Person. Person is probably the worst out of the bunch but we probably need him more so he stays... I would decide between losing Reuland and Jones for Tukuafu. Reuland might have more potential but Dobbs might make him obsolete. Jones is strictly a ST player. Final call would be to cut Jones.
Aug 20, 2012 at 2:33 PM
- CorvaNinerFan
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Geek, I think you come closest to what I also think the roster will be. I'm going to the Denver-Niner game this Sunday, so I'll get a good look at who the contenders & pretenders are. Bakhtiari and Ian Williams are making strong cases for themselves, which is great to see. I'll file a report of what I see after the game on Sunday.
Aug 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM
- TheRickestRick
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Originally posted by Gore_21:Originally posted by GEEK:My 53 Roster -
QB: Smith/Kaepernick/Tolzien
RB: Gore/Hunter/Jacobs/James
FB: Miller
TE: Davis/Walker/Reuland
WR: Crabtree/Moss/Jenkins
WR: Manningham/Williams/Ginn
LT: Staley/Person
LG: Iupati/Looney
C: Goodwin/Kilgore
RG: Boone/Davis
RT: Davis
LE: Smith/Jean-Francois
NT: Sopoaga/Williams
RE: McDonald/Dobbs
OLB: Smith/Haralson
ILB: Willis/Grant
ILB: Bowman/Gooden
OLB: Brooks/Bakhtiari
CB: Rogers/Cox/Brock
CB: Brown/Culliver
FS: Goldson/Robinson
SS: Whitner/Spillman/Jones
ST: Akers, Lee, Jennings
I like this but I think Will Tukuafu makes the roster. Might have to substitute him for Jones, Reuland or Person. Person is probably the worst out of the bunch but we probably need him more so he stays... I would decide between losing Reuland and Jones for Tukuafu. Reuland might have more potential but Dobbs might make him obsolete. Jones is strictly a ST player. Final call would be to cut Jones.
Davis can play tackle in a pinch, though I suspect in that scenario Boone swings over and LD plays guard, send Person to the PS and keep Tuku. Aside from that, looks solid!
[ Edited by 5280High on Aug 20, 2012 at 2:53 PM ]
Aug 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM
- ManBearPig
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I agree with Geek's roster...and I agree we should keep Tukuafu...but I disagree with cutting Jones..he is valuable on ST...I'd rather we cut Brock....he gets burnt the most..