ABs early 53 man and 8 man P-Squad roster prediciton | Page 5

AB81Rules · 2012-05-14T21:49:07-07:00

It's gonna be tough to keep Jacobs and Haralson, especially Haralson, he makes $2.87M, and we save $2.77M by cutting him, not to mention the room on 2013 season. Here is my 53 man and 8 man P-Squad, plus below it is what our cap numbers would be with this roster. QB(3): 11 Alex Smith(2014)/ 1 Josh Johnson(2013)/ 7 Colin Kaepernick(2014) RB(5): 21 Frank Gore(2014)/ 23 LaMichael James(2015)/ 32 Kendall Hunter(2014)/ 45 Brandon Jacobs(2012)/ 28 Rock Cartwright(2012) FB(1): 49 Bruce MIller(2014) WR(5): 15 Michael Crabtree(2014)/ 84 Randy Moss(2012)/ 14 Mario Manningham(2013)/ 19 Ted Ginn Jr.(2012)/ 17 A.J. Jenkins(2015) TE(3): 85 Vernon Davis(2015)/ 46 Delanie Walker(2012)/ 82 Nate Byham(2013) C(2): 59 Jonathan Goodwin(2013)/ 62 Jason Slowey(2015) OG(4): 77 Mike Iupati(2014)/ 67 Daniel Kilgore(2014)/ 66 Joe Looney(2015)/ 78 Mike Person(2014) OT(3): 74 Joe Staley(2017)/ 76 Anthony Davis(2014)/ 75 Alex Boone(2015) DE(4): 94 Justin Smith(2013)/ 91 Ray McDonald(2015)/ 92 Will Tukuafu(2013)/ 96 Demarcus Dobbs(2013) NT(3): 90 Isaac Sopoaga(2012)/ 95 Ricky Jean Francois(2012)/ 93 Ian Williams(2013) OLB(4): 55 Ahmad Brooks(2017)/ 99 Aldon Smith(2014)/ 58 Darius Fleming(2015)/ 50 Cam Johnson(2015) ILB(4): 52 Patrick Willis(2016)/ 53 NaVorro Bowman(2013)/ 54 Larry Grant(2012)/ 56 Tavares Gooden(2012) CB(5): 22 Carlos Rogers(2015)/ 25 Tarell Brown(2013)/ 29 Chris Culliver(2014)/ 20 Perrish Cox(2013)/ 26 Tramaine Brock(2012) S(5): 38 Dashon Goldson(2012)/ 31 Donte Whitner(2013)/ 27 C.J. Spillman(2014)/ 43 Colin Jones(2014)/ 30 Trenton Robinson(2015) ST(3): 4 Andy Lee(2012)/ 2 David Akers(2013)/ 86 Brian Jennings(2014) PS(8): RB 33 Hampton, WR 81 Owusu, WR 89 Palmer, TE 88 Reuland, DE 71 Masifilo, DE 63 Jerod-Eddie, OLB 51 Holland, CB 23 Nelms Gameday inactives for week 1: QB Kaepernick, C Slowey, OG Person, DE Dobbs, NT Williams, CB Brock, and final would be either Hunter/Jacobs or Robinson. 2012 Cap Numbers for my Roster: # Name Pos. Signed 2012 Salary 52 Willis, Patrick ILB 2016 $17,642,287 11 Smith, Alex QB 2014 $9,255,580 85 Davis, Vernon TE 2015 $8,023,246 94 Smith, Justin DE 2013 $6,380,580 38 Goldson, Dashon FS 2012 $6,212,000 21 Gore, Frank RB 2014 $6,005,580 22 Rogers, Carlos CB 2015 $5,505,580 15 Crabtree, Michael WR 2014 $5,364,580 90 Sopoaga, Isaac NT 2012 $4,960,580 31 Whitner, Donte SS 2013 $4,388,913 91 McDonald, Ray DE 2015 $4,155,580 59 Goodwin, Jonathan C 2013 $3,722,247 2 Akers, David PK 2013 $3,622,247 99 Smith, Aldon OLB 2014 $3,274,671 76 Davis, Anthony RT 2014 $3,197,246 55 Brooks, Ahmad OLB 2017 $2,855,580 74 Staley, Joe LT 2017 $2,700,580 14 Manningham, Mario WR 2013 $2,555,580 84 Moss, Randy WR 2012 $2,505,580 77 Iupati, Mike LG 2014 $2,036,580 46 Walker, Delanie TE 2012 $2,010,580 25 Brown, Tarell CB 2013 $1,736,330 45 Jacobs, Brandon RB 2012 $1,580,580 4 Lee, Andy P 2012 $1,382,248 19 Ginn Jr., Ted WR 2012 $1,380,580 54 Grant, Larry ILB 2012 $1,265,580 17 Jenkins, A.J. WR 2015 $1,262,500 7 Kaepernick, Colin QB 2014 $1,170,193 86 Jennings, Brian LS 2014 $1,151,580 27 Spillman, C.J. SS 2014 $1,085,580 28 Cartwright, Rock RB 2012 $955,580 75 Boone, Alex RT 2015 $935,580 1 Johnson, Josh QB 2013 $880,580 53 Bowman, NaVorro ILB 2013 $721,142 56 Gooden, Tavares ILB 2012 $705,580 95 Jean Francois, Ricky NT 2012 $631,330 29 Culliver, Chris CB 2014 $620,299 23 James, LaMichael RB 2015 $603,250 32 Hunter, Kendall RB 2014 $580,385 26 Brock, Tramaine CB 2012 $545,580 82 Byham, Nate TE 2013 $522,130 67 Kilgore, Daniel OG 2014 $510,655 66 Looney, Joe OG 2015 $496,250 49 Miller, Bruce FB 2014 $486,193 78 Person, Mike OG 2014 $482,055 43 Jones, Colin FS 2014 $470,580 20 Cox, Perrish CB 2013 $470,580 92 Tukuafu, Will DE 2013 $470,580 96 Dobbs, Demarcus DE 2013 $470,580 93 Williams, Ian NT 2013 $470,580 58 Fleming, Darius OLB 2015 $431,000 30 Robinson, Trenton FS 2015 $417,625 62 Slowey, Jason C 2015 $413,128 50 Johnson, Cam OLB 2015 $401,475 51 Holland, Joe OLB PS $96,900 23 Nelms, Cory CB PS $96,900 71 Masifilo, Matt DE PS $96,900 63 Jerod-Eddie, Tony DE PS $96,900 33 Hampton, Jewell RB PS $96,900 88 Reuland, Konrad TE PS $96,900 81 Owusu, Chris WR PS $96,900 89 Palmer, Nathan WR PS $96,900 2012 Current Total $132,858,485 2012 Dead Money $1,236,572 2012 Current and Dead Money $134,095,057 Leftover 2011 Cap Space $16,500,000 2012 Salary Cap Limit w/Leftover $138,082,519 2012 Salary Cap Limit without leftover $120,600,000 2012 Credited Cap Space $1,643,000 2012 Adjustments $982,519 2012 Cap Space $4,532,462 2012 Vet Credit $545,000 Dead Money 2011 UDFAs $50,000 2012 UDFAs $26,528 Philip Adams $28,924 Anthony Dixon $30,150 Parys Haralson $100,000 Curtis Holcomb $11,750 Ronald Johnson $78,165 Colin Jones $74,172 Taylor Mays $754,000 Scott McKillop $48,063 Curtis Taylor $14,970 Kyle Williams $19,850 Total $1,236,572 Keep in mind we would have $4.5M in cap room now, subtract 2.77M from that, and we would have only $1.73M under if we kept Haralson at that rate, and $1.73M is NOT enough to survive a season in case of emergencies. Teams like between 3 and 5 million for that purpose.

May 15, 2012 at 10:30 PM

#61

jreff22
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Originally posted by ads_2006:
why byhnam and not peele

because he is a lot better

May 15, 2012 at 10:31 PM

#62

BrianGO
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Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by 9erred:
A few things that pop out to me.

1. The WR's are better on paper than in the past years. defensive coordinators will have to take notice.
2. Our OL is one or two injurie away from being a turnsile. I pray that Persons, Kilgor, Slowey can step in if there is an inury.
3. Was not a fan of bringing in Josh Johnson. I would rather cut Johnson or Kaepernick and keep Tolziemn.

THIS

I don't like carrying 3 tackles. It just worries me - we should have at least 4 with other training or at least taking reps.

This is what I'm talking about.

If we had four proven tackles, there would be no problem with having a swing tackle play guard. But with only three, it changes the risk factor. Very risky when three out of your five lineman are the only dependable tackles on the team.

May 15, 2012 at 10:33 PM

#63

teeohh
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What are the chances we carry 4 tight ends with Reuland being the fourth. I remember reports that he was catching everything in camp.

May 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM

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jreff22
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Originally posted by toeshawn:
What are the chances we carry 4 tight ends with Reuland being the fourth. I remember reports that he was catching everything in camp.

Doubtful because we are loaded at WR and RB currently. If we get the RB situation stacked at 3 and the WR situation fixed at 5 we could add a 4th TE and make one of them the TE/FB/HB.

May 15, 2012 at 10:40 PM

#65

longtime49erfan
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I think Fleming will be placed on injured reserve, making way for another player on the main roster.

May 15, 2012 at 11:36 PM

#66

Nalo9er
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by toeshawn:
What are the chances we carry 4 tight ends with Reuland being the fourth. I remember reports that he was catching everything in camp.

Doubtful because we are loaded at WR and RB currently. If we get the RB situation stacked at 3 and the WR situation fixed at 5 we could add a 4th TE and make one of them the TE/FB/HB.

Recall that he got the nickname "Novacek" for his catching ability. Why him and not Brent Jones, i dunno lol. Anyway i doubt they keep 4 but i wouldn't mind one bit if he somehow ended up as the #3 TE. Keep him on the practice squad at least, so he can compete next year if Walker leaves.

May 16, 2012 at 5:00 AM

#67

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Originally posted by ads_2006:
why byhnam and not peele

Did you mean Reuland. Peele wasn't re-signed and if we wanted him he would be signed and in camp now. He did a good job blocking in place of Byham but he offers basically nothing as a WR. Byham or Reuland can offer more.... I know a 3rd TE is mainly a blocking TE but it adds more to the offense if they can catch the ball.

May 16, 2012 at 5:13 AM

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niners_guy
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Nice work AB! This is the conservative view heading into training camp, we'll see what twist and turns happen along the way. Hoping they don't come in the form of knees and ankles.

May 16, 2012 at 5:27 AM

#69

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You have 54 guys making the team. But nice job overall. I agree with you on Byham. I think makes it because he can also play some fullback. I do think Haralson will make the team, especially with Fleming now being out for the year. Good work.

[ Edited by PatrickJira411 on May 16, 2012 at 5:30 AM ]

May 30, 2012 at 5:26 PM

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mjo116
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maybe im counting wrong, but im pretty sure you have 54 players listed. who would you cut?