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Analysis of the AJ Jenkins Pick (AJ Is a Range/Speed Specimen)

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Nope, doesn't matter to the OP.

Truth is, Hill like any WR coming from a non-pro style offense will have a steep learning curve...which is not unique for college WRs. It doesn't mean they can't succeed, it just means they may not contribute as quickly as others who have run the route-tree, can get in and out of breaks quickly and understand the nuances of the pro passing game.

If they have the right mix of size/speed/athleticism, core WR skills, desire and smarts, they will be fine.
Demarius Thomas had as many receptions in 1 year than Hill had in his whole college career...

Thomas was much more pro ready coming out than Hill is...

Hill is a great athlete with huge potential and he has great work ethic...

The 49ers wanted a guy who can contribute asap, not one who has a higher bust potential and who won't contribute for a while...

You speak truth.....
Originally posted by nickbradley:
AJ Jenkins didn't have off the charts measurables

Uhhh....actually, he did.....

....4.37 40 yd. dash at the Combine...one of the fastest times of any player invited
....38.5" vertical leap (better than Blackmon, Floyd, Randle, Jeffery, Givens, Sanu, Quick, and M. Jones)
....4.12 20 yd. shuttle (better than Blackmon, Floyd, K Wright, S Hill, Randle, Jeffery, Givens, Sanu, and Quick)
....6.73 3-cone drill (better than Blackmon, Floyd, K Wright, S Hill, Randle, Jeffery, Givens, Sanu, Quick, M. Jones, and Childs)
....10'4" broad jump (better than Blackmon, Floyd, K Wright, Randle, Jeffery, Givens, Sanu, Quick, and M. Jones)

Just sayin...
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Uhhh....actually, he did.....

....4.37 40 yd. dash at the Combine...one of the fastest times of any player invited
....38.5" vertical leap (better than Blackmon, Floyd, Randle, Jeffery, Givens, Sanu, Quick, and M. Jones)
....4.12 20 yd. shuttle (better than Blackmon, Floyd, K Wright, S Hill, Randle, Jeffery, Givens, Sanu, and Quick)
....6.73 3-cone drill (better than Blackmon, Floyd, K Wright, S Hill, Randle, Jeffery, Givens, Sanu, Quick, M. Jones, and Childs)
....10'4" broad jump (better than Blackmon, Floyd, K Wright, Randle, Jeffery, Givens, Sanu, Quick, and M. Jones)

Just sayin...

True story
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
remember it's not how fast they run at the combine with NO PADS ON!

It's how fast they run in Live Game Action with PADS ON!

I've never understood why they don't run with pads ON


They dont need to run in pads. Too many fans waste time looking at the 40. All you have to do is look at the 3 cone and short shuttle times thats the time that tells you the most about a players game speed.
[ Edited by sean610 on May 1, 2012 at 4:56 AM ]
Solid analysis and I agree WE GOT A STEAL.
Originally posted by Curticio11:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Uhhh....actually, he did.....

....4.37 40 yd. dash at the Combine...one of the fastest times of any player invited
....38.5" vertical leap (better than Blackmon, Floyd, Randle, Jeffery, Givens, Sanu, Quick, and M. Jones)
....4.12 20 yd. shuttle (better than Blackmon, Floyd, K Wright, S Hill, Randle, Jeffery, Givens, Sanu, and Quick)
....6.73 3-cone drill (better than Blackmon, Floyd, K Wright, S Hill, Randle, Jeffery, Givens, Sanu, Quick, M. Jones, and Childs)
....10'4" broad jump (better than Blackmon, Floyd, K Wright, Randle, Jeffery, Givens, Sanu, Quick, and M. Jones)

Just sayin...

True story
True and verifiable....
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=83167&draftyear=2012&genpos=WR
Originally posted by sean610:
They dont need to run in pads. Too many fans waste time looking at the 40. All you have to do is look at the 3 cone and short shuttle times thats the time that tells you the most about a players game speed.

Actually, you do.

There are guys out there that 5 pounds of gear will slow them down. IF you're 6'1 and 165 pounds and run a 4.28 it would be very possible that with full gear you're running a 4.38. That's why we keep hearing about "Game Speed".

I agree that the 3 cone and short shuttle are better indications of a player's speed..but they'd be even more accurate if they were run with pads and a helmet. For the most part the 40 isn't important at all...the 10 yard split is...and in some cases the 20 yard split is.
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Not exactly. Most instances, a WR doesn't get a chance to maximize his leap or is required to leap at all. Crabtree's arm length ALWAYS allows him to be that high whereas AJ would be required to leap every time to reach that height and getting to the height of a leap rarely happens.

OK Fine; you're making assumptions about jump maximization and whatnot. You assume a leap at 80% of max and Jenkins loses an inch on Crabtree.

That's even if there's time for an 80% jump such as a quick slant that is rifled and you only have a split second to get your hands over your head for the catch. Or a ten yard out or any square pattern where the ball can only be caught if one reaches sideways. Crabtree has more advantage of catching a variety of reach type of balls than does AJ.

AJ would only be on the same level of Crabs if it is a ball that is above the head.
What you're saying is we drafted the next great NFL receiver.