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Originally posted by AUniner:
They have bought in some complimentary players. I think they are looking to play to Alex's strengths. Expect a lot of shotgun. Maybe some no huddle.

I agree there is no way we can run these semi 1 dimensional sets with all the weapons we have, we are bound to be in spread. Man these boys in the front office amazed me again. They all get us scratching our head at points but when it's all said and done you get it (at least I do).
Now were a spread shotgun team because we brought in LaMichelle James? Please! We're a west cost offense with elements of a power running game mixed in. That will not change. I don't care how many midget running backs they bring in.
I think playing against New Orleans in the playoff with their quick strike ability especially those last 2 scores they had against the Niners, gave the coaches a want to have this team to be able to do the same on offense. They spread you out with their receivers. The defense has that covered, but then there's Sproles. He gets the ball underneath. Make 1 guy missed with his quickness. He's in the open field and it's pretty much over. It's a TD, because your Safties and CBs are geared up to try to cover their receivers. Hopefully we can do the same thing with L. James.

Their second TD to their TE was pretty much 1 on 1 against Willis. As great as Willis is, the edge still goes to their TE. And with help coming from Whitner, all it takes is a late step or missed tackle, it's a score. We can do the same with VD.

I think this team is trying to be the San Francisco New Orleans offense.
Originally posted by NinerG94:
Now were a spread shotgun team because we brought in LaMichelle James? Please! We're a west cost offense with elements of a power running game mixed in. That will not change. I don't care how many midget running backs they bring in.

Um first of all you don't know and neither does any of us. The point is we are stacked at WR and Alex is a natural shotgun passer. So yeah I think we will be in shotgun more than we were last year. Is it are bread and butter? No. Is it another element that will get are play makers in space? Yes.
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Originally posted by Magzarillious:
Originally posted by AUniner:
They have bought in some complimentary players. I think they are looking to play to Alex's strengths. Expect a lot of shotgun. Maybe some no huddle.

I agree there is no way we can run these semi 1 dimensional sets with all the weapons we have, we are bound to be in spread. Man these boys in the front office amazed me again. They all get us scratching our head at points but when it's all said and done you get it (at least I do).

We may have been amazed but we shouldn't have been. It should have been glaringly obvious that this team last season was one dimensional because there were so few weapons in the passing game. We know all about the Edwards situation and Crabtree's injury and then Morgan. Those things were what limited the offense. Had Edwards even just played back to his better years in NY and Crabtree and Morgan stayed healthy, this would have been a very different offense.

Still, Harbaugh wanted a level of explosiveness that was not there last season even had all those guys stayed healthy. Consequently, they brought in Manningham for his depth and experience, and Moss on the prayer that he still has something left. The Jenkins pick, if we scrape away the layers, should have been obvious - speed and route running was a major component missing even had everyone else been healthy. James is just more of the same.

I don't see this team being a "shotgun" team next season. Smith showed good ability to throw out of an I-formation. The problem was that there were no dependable receivers that could read defenses and get open quickly, hence all the new guys. I anticipate a LOT of new stuff from Harbaugh, some of it will not happen until well into the season just to keep opponents off balance. It would be a mistake to say that this team is all "this or that." It will not be. Take that to the bank. Harbaugh now has the weapons to bring a lot of stuff we haven't seen in 20 years...
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Magzarillious:
Originally posted by AUniner:
They have bought in some complimentary players. I think they are looking to play to Alex's strengths. Expect a lot of shotgun. Maybe some no huddle.

I agree there is no way we can run these semi 1 dimensional sets with all the weapons we have, we are bound to be in spread. Man these boys in the front office amazed me again. They all get us scratching our head at points but when it's all said and done you get it (at least I do).

We may have been amazed but we shouldn't have been. It should have been glaringly obvious that this team last season was one dimensional because there were so few weapons in the passing game. We know all about the Edwards situation and Crabtree's injury and then Morgan. Those things were what limited the offense. Had Edwards even just played back to his better years in NY and Crabtree and Morgan stayed healthy, this would have been a very different offense.

Still, Harbaugh wanted a level of explosiveness that was not there last season even had all those guys stayed healthy. Consequently, they brought in Manningham for his depth and experience, and Moss on the prayer that he still has something left. The Jenkins pick, if we scrape away the layers, should have been obvious - speed and route running was a major component missing even had everyone else been healthy. James is just more of the same.

I don't see this team being a "shotgun" team next season. Smith showed good ability to throw out of an I-formation. The problem was that there were no dependable receivers that could read defenses and get open quickly, hence all the new guys. I anticipate a LOT of new stuff from Harbaugh, some of it will not happen until well into the season just to keep opponents off balance. It would be a mistake to say that this team is all "this or that." It will not be. Take that to the bank. Harbaugh now has the weapons to bring a lot of stuff we haven't seen in 20 years...

I don't think any part of our passing game showed good ability if we want to look at the team totals.

I think JH wants to do something different in the NFL. We saw glimpses of it with the fly sweep and LMJ played in a very interesting offense in college. I wouldn't be surprised if JH is going to for a Pistol/Spread/Stanford WC sort of mix that will cater to guys like LMJ, Jenkins, and Kaep (in the near future). There's a reason why we drafted these guys and I have a feeling JH has something very interesting in his brain and the NFL will see some things they have never seen before.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I think playing against New Orleans in the playoff with their quick strike ability especially those last 2 scores they had against the Niners, gave the coaches a want to have this team to be able to do the same on offense. They spread you out with their receivers. The defense has that covered, but then there's Sproles. He gets the ball underneath. Make 1 guy missed with his quickness. He's in the open field and it's pretty much over. It's a TD, because your Safties and CBs are geared up to try to cover their receivers. Hopefully we can do the same thing with L. James.

Their second TD to their TE was pretty much 1 on 1 against Willis. As great as Willis is, the edge still goes to their TE. And with help coming from Whitner, all it takes is a late step or missed tackle, it's a score. We can do the same with VD.

I think this team is trying to be the San Francisco New Orleans offense.

i thought the same thing. Harbaugh couldnt sit on the sidelines and watch the saints score at will and not want to be a part of that. i do think that we will still run as much as we can to keep our D of the field and control the clock , so dont look for 4000 yards of passing , but our quick strike capabillitys should be greatly improved...
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Magzarillious:
Originally posted by AUniner:
They have bought in some complimentary players. I think they are looking to play to Alex's strengths. Expect a lot of shotgun. Maybe some no huddle.

I agree there is no way we can run these semi 1 dimensional sets with all the weapons we have, we are bound to be in spread. Man these boys in the front office amazed me again. They all get us scratching our head at points but when it's all said and done you get it (at least I do).

We may have been amazed but we shouldn't have been. It should have been glaringly obvious that this team last season was one dimensional because there were so few weapons in the passing game. We know all about the Edwards situation and Crabtree's injury and then Morgan. Those things were what limited the offense. Had Edwards even just played back to his better years in NY and Crabtree and Morgan stayed healthy, this would have been a very different offense.

Still, Harbaugh wanted a level of explosiveness that was not there last season even had all those guys stayed healthy. Consequently, they brought in Manningham for his depth and experience, and Moss on the prayer that he still has something left. The Jenkins pick, if we scrape away the layers, should have been obvious - speed and route running was a major component missing even had everyone else been healthy. James is just more of the same.

I don't see this team being a "shotgun" team next season. Smith showed good ability to throw out of an I-formation. The problem was that there were no dependable receivers that could read defenses and get open quickly, hence all the new guys. I anticipate a LOT of new stuff from Harbaugh, some of it will not happen until well into the season just to keep opponents off balance. It would be a mistake to say that this team is all "this or that." It will not be. Take that to the bank. Harbaugh now has the weapons to bring a lot of stuff we haven't seen in 20 years...

I don't think any part of our passing game showed good ability if we want to look at the team totals.

I think JH wants to do something different in the NFL. We saw glimpses of it with the fly sweep and LMJ played in a very interesting offense in college. I wouldn't be surprised if JH is going to for a Pistol/Spread/Stanford WC sort of mix that will cater to guys like LMJ, Jenkins, and Kaep (in the near future). There's a reason why we drafted these guys and I have a feeling JH has something very interesting in his brain and the NFL will see some things they have never seen before.

Harbaugh wasn't looking at TOTALS from last season. He was only looking at what certain players could do, and what was lacking. He saw that Smith could throw from the I but there were other pieces lacking to allow that formation to excel. Now with these new pieces, and time to put them all together, I agree with you that we are going to see a much more diverse and effective offense than we have yet seen.
Originally posted by dj43:
Harbaugh wasn't looking at TOTALS from last season. He was only looking at what certain players could do, and what was lacking. He saw that Smith could throw from the I but there were other pieces lacking to allow that formation to excel. Now with these new pieces, and time to put them all together, I agree with you that we are going to see a much more diverse and effective offense than we have yet seen.

Alex or Kaep, I really don't care as long as they execute with divisiveness. The bold and what's in JH's brain is what I am most interested in. I would love for us to, once again, bring this franchise to being outside the box/one step ahead trailblazers and apply things that the good ole boy network refuses to use because "it won't work in the NFL" mentality.