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Apr 28, 2012 at 9:03 AM
- LA9erFan
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Good observations. Last year they showed a tremendous ability to evaluate our internal talent. Navorro Bowman, Ray McDonald, Isaac Sopoaga, & Tarell Brown were all question marks going into the year last season, and Harbaalke absolutely nailed it when they determined that these guys were ready for the big time. They've earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Kilgore, Person, & company.
Apr 28, 2012 at 9:09 AM
- ssahnan
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For these picks so far to work, it means people that we already have are losing jobs. It's a simple numbers game, the niners are not going to waste a 1st and 2nd round pick on players that don't make the team. To make the team, someone potentially better is going to be cut. obviously Kyle Williams is a candidate, dixon for the rbs. there may be coach speak or team spreak that says otherwise but these picks weren't to fill holes like we obviously have at guard and safety depth. These were swinging for the fences picks that will come at the expense of others. i have no idea if williams can be hidden ont he practice squad, dixon will find a real job elsewhere.
for the record, i'm on board with the moves too. I don't expect at all moss to pan out, hated the move when it happened but seeing that they were going to cover the bases with it thru the draft, its a gamble worth taking. crabtree is a dime a dozen wr, manningham as well. ginn will take a wr spot technically but we all know he why he's really there. Jenkins represents someone that could easily surpass all of our wrs if given a legit chance. given or wr corp and just how average to crap that it is, Jenkins doesn't have an awful lot to pass. as far as rbs, james brings a potential dynamic no one on this roster can bring. I think hunter will easily retain his #2 spot as a legit rb but in situations where they go to their gadget plays, james will get the shot to shine. dixon is nothing to miss, if he beats out jacobs, so be it but only one of those guys makes it. end of the day, given how few chances i see that 4th rb getting, i would hope its dixon that stays as listening to jacobs whine is gonna get old quick.
for the record, i'm on board with the moves too. I don't expect at all moss to pan out, hated the move when it happened but seeing that they were going to cover the bases with it thru the draft, its a gamble worth taking. crabtree is a dime a dozen wr, manningham as well. ginn will take a wr spot technically but we all know he why he's really there. Jenkins represents someone that could easily surpass all of our wrs if given a legit chance. given or wr corp and just how average to crap that it is, Jenkins doesn't have an awful lot to pass. as far as rbs, james brings a potential dynamic no one on this roster can bring. I think hunter will easily retain his #2 spot as a legit rb but in situations where they go to their gadget plays, james will get the shot to shine. dixon is nothing to miss, if he beats out jacobs, so be it but only one of those guys makes it. end of the day, given how few chances i see that 4th rb getting, i would hope its dixon that stays as listening to jacobs whine is gonna get old quick.
Apr 28, 2012 at 9:10 AM
- qnnhan7
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The fact that they took 2 skill position picks more for addition than need, they must be confident in Boone, Kilgore, and Person to take the right guard position. Still would like them to draft another guy in the 4th.
Apr 28, 2012 at 9:21 AM
- ssahnan
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
The fact that they took 2 skill position picks more for addition than need, they must be confident in Boone, Kilgore, and Person to take the right guard position. Still would like them to draft another guy in the 4th.
Confident that those players can compete. Don't count out a vet being signed at the NFL minimum. Once we work out a long term deal with Dashon, we'll have cap room again.
I have been curious about this, is a long term deal this year, still possible for dashon? not much space left. I would love to get one done but didn't think we had the space anymore
Apr 28, 2012 at 9:39 AM
- oregonniner
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Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Versatility? I love it.
But for those who knows LMJs game, how good is he on punt returns witn such a small frame?
e.g. fumbles?, how often was he returning punts, all 3 years?
I would say he is solid at returning the ball and receiving. He has the upside to get better. I wouldn't put him back returning kicks in the San Francisco wind just yet. I would definitely let him catch the ball out of the backfield and even go deep with it. I think he will be a good returner in time, and his frame won't be an issue because he is tough.
Apr 28, 2012 at 7:15 PM
- mebemused
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Competition will determine who makes the final roster.
Ginn will be cut because he isn't talented enough as a WR, and we now have RB James, DB Holcomb to compete with him for return duties.
Ginn will be cut because he isn't talented enough as a WR, and we now have RB James, DB Holcomb to compete with him for return duties.
Apr 28, 2012 at 7:38 PM
- 49erThrowback
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Confident that those players can compete. Don't count out a vet being signed at the NFL minimum. Once we work out a long term deal with Dashon, we'll have cap room again.
For all we know, Leonard Davis has a handshake agreement that if he recovers completely from his foot injury, he'll have a chance to be a starter on a team with an inside track to the playoffs.
Apr 28, 2012 at 11:42 PM
- TheGoldDiggerrrr
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Originally posted by 49erThrowback:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Confident that those players can compete. Don't count out a vet being signed at the NFL minimum. Once we work out a long term deal with Dashon, we'll have cap room again.
For all we know, Leonard Davis has a handshake agreement that if he recovers completely from his foot injury, he'll have a chance to be a starter on a team with an inside track to the playoffs.
DO NOT WANT!!!! I've watch him play for dallas and he sucks... Reason he never panned out at Tackle or he is not that good at gaurd.
Apr 28, 2012 at 11:50 PM
- kronik
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Originally posted by jreff22:
We have shifted from power to finesse
neither of these guys are "blockers"
We lost power because we lost Adam Snyder? Bwahahaha
No son, we added a new element (speed/explosiveness) while RETAINING the power and toughness
[ Edited by kronik on Apr 29, 2012 at 3:49 PM ]
Apr 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM
- BayArea
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This team is stacked with return guys all of a sudden.
Catch the drift Kyle Williams?
lol... in all seriousness though it seems like they are dead set on NOT reliving that Giants playoff game. Which I love..
Catch the drift Kyle Williams?
lol... in all seriousness though it seems like they are dead set on NOT reliving that Giants playoff game. Which I love..
Apr 29, 2012 at 12:59 AM
- unst4bl3
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Originally posted by BayArea:
This team is stacked with return guys all of a sudden.
Catch the drift Kyle Williams?
lol... in all seriousness though it seems like they are dead set on NOT reliving that Giants playoff game. Which I love..
And we have a good group at QB if Alex decides to regress, so my only fear is our DB's...
Apr 29, 2012 at 3:12 PM
- LasVegasWally
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This is going to be an interesting season. I can't wait for the schemes on offense, seeing how JH uses all the speed we've aquired.
Apr 30, 2012 at 5:31 AM
- BillWalsh
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:Ya he's proven to be one of the best play callers in the league. He should be able to use all of these guys and create some great plays
This is going to be an interesting season. I can't wait for the schemes on offense, seeing how JH uses all the speed we've aquired.
Apr 30, 2012 at 6:10 AM
- Magzarillious
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Originally posted by AUniner:
They have bought in some complimentary players. I think they are looking to play to Alex's strengths. Expect a lot of shotgun. Maybe some no huddle.
I agree there is no way we can run these semi 1 dimensional sets with all the weapons we have, we are bound to be in spread. Man these boys in the front office amazed me again. They all get us scratching our head at points but when it's all said and done you get it (at least I do).
Apr 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM
- NinerG94
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Now were a spread shotgun team because we brought in LaMichelle James? Please! We're a west cost offense with elements of a power running game mixed in. That will not change. I don't care how many midget running backs they bring in.