Originally posted by rk1642:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't agree. You offer him what you think be is worth and not fall into the rat race trap teams like Washington fall into. We don't need to bid against ourselves here. Alex has not proven as much in terms of overall film. His stats may match some other contracts but those other contracts also take into consideration the ceiling for those QBs. From every opinion we have read or heard of Alex Smith outside the Niner org, it has always implied that he doesn't have a high ceiling. Teams will take chances on QBs they feel have higher ceilings. Alex Hans proven that. What he has proven is that he won't entirely screw the coach if the pieces around him are there. He also has proven that he will not help your team if they aren't there, a situation most teams are in.
Who do you think we are? What have we done to think we can demand anything from anybody? It doesn't work that way.
We can play that game and I agree it worked last year. But do you really think that we can continue to lose our FA players that helped us get to where we were last year and keep replacing them with 2nd and 3rd tier guys.
Thats allot of wishful thinking IMO but maybe it works. But then again, maybe we strike out on all the 2nd and 3rd tier guys this year. Where would that lead us?
And if we think we can insult our starting qb and everything will be okay then I'm all in but something tells me thats not how humans operate.
Our even worse, he leaves, we start Kap and we stink once again. Cause the guy is not ready and will be a pick machine.
1rst 2nd or third tier guys can be in the eyes of the fan. Look at past history. If you have good personnel men, coaches and system your team is successful. Walsh took a lot of people who originally was thought of as 2nd and 3rd tier guys and made them successful with a good system and coaches. Have you already forgotten, most of the players were on the team the year before but the niners sucked. Enter JH and company, a few new people. Like every team you will win and sometimes stumble, look at the 49ers after the year they won the first SB, they fell flat on their face hard. Then picked up again.
I myself would like to see kaep get one more year of seasoning, but JH maybe okay with going into the season with him if Alex plays hardball. As I said sometimes you may need to take a step back to take 2 steps foward at times.
As for those who think we are low balling AS and should pay him the Bills and other QBs like Sanchez just because they are getting that kind of money is nuts. Nothing personnal, but you set your own standard, don't follow others and fall into the trap. Like the saying goes, just cause someone is okay with jumping off the bridge, are you going to jump off the bridge? if Alex is the answer long term, let him show that he improves and not level off the next year or two, then extend him, one year does not a a contract of the magnitude that his greedy agent wants. Don't get me wrong, I know he is trying to get the most for his client (as well as himself), but that doesn't mean we have to be held hostage. We have a plan and we are following it. I like it, we have a vision and system and following it and not winging it on a hope and a prayer. Something JH obviously learned from Bill Walsh.