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Is there any 49er that is more over-rated than Delanie Walker?

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Think you're missing the concept of this offense.

It uses x y z receivers h back f back

base package of 2wr 1te 2rb
wide package of 3wr 1te 1rb
tight package of 1wr 2te 2rb

Walker is handy cause he can easily shift from y receiver to f back
The 9ers have always had these types of players

If you want Jim to change to offense and use two giant tight ends all the time give him a call


call at me bro



At Stanford Fleener did a lot of the same things, shifted from WR to TE and moved around on the offense a lot........you're basically saying that a guy like that is incapable of doing what Delanie Walker does and doing it better? Same goes for Green.

I'm talking TE to FB
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
I'm talking TE to FB

Okay? And? At Stanford Harbaugh had 2 receiving TE's who interchanged with the WR position, saying that a 2nd receiving TE wouldn't fit into his offense is asinine, in fact if they draft Fleener, they'd basically have the 2 guys he was using his final year coaching there.
Delanie Walker player 50% percent of the offensive snaps this year
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
I'm talking TE to FB

Okay? And? At Stanford Harbaugh had 2 receiving TE's who interchanged with the WR position, saying that a 2nd receiving TE wouldn't fit into his offense is asinine, in fact if they draft Fleener, they'd basically have the 2 guys he was using his final year coaching there.

didn't say two tight ends wouldn't fit but a big ass 6'6" tight end isn't going to play full back
I like Delanie's speed, but he has average hands and cant block. The fact that we dont have a second good blocking tight end severly limits Vernon's effectiveness in the passing offense, as he is constantly called on to block. In spite of Vern's lack of playbook knowledge early on, his blocking ability (and other TE's lack there of) limits his production.
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Think you're missing the concept of this offense.

It uses x y z receivers h back f back

base package of 2wr 1te 2rb
wide package of 3wr 1te 1rb
tight package of 1wr 2te 2rb

Walker is handy cause he can easily shift from y receiver to f back
The 9ers have always had these types of players

If you want Jim to change to offense and use two giant tight ends all the time give him a call


call at me bro



At Stanford Fleener did a lot of the same things, shifted from WR to TE and moved around on the offense a lot........you're basically saying that a guy like that is incapable of doing what Delanie Walker does and doing it better? Same goes for Green.

I'm talking TE to FB

I thought Byham played fb,hb,and te..Did he not fill in when Morris went down and when Walker went down with an ankle sprain.I think he started 3 weeks in a row,Alanta,N.Car and London.
He's a decent player who would have better numbers in a different offense and a better QB. For a number 2 TE I think he is pretty good.
Originally posted by susweel:
He's a decent player who would have better numbers in a different offense and a better QB. For a number 2 TE I think he is pretty good.

I think he is ok. I agree with the points you are trying to make. However, his lack of being able to block is what prevents me from thinking he is easily replaceable.
Originally posted by valrod33:
We have Konrad Rueland and Nate Byham already under contract and they have the size that you continue to mention, why not give them a shot and see what they can do? I just dont see upgrading our backup TE as a huge priority this year. Maybe the Niners will draft another TE this year ,who knows? If they dont I comfortable going into next year with what we have at that spot

How many on this board know that Konrad Rueland (west) and Nate Byham (east) both started In the Army All-American game in 2006.??
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by susweel:
He's a decent player who would have better numbers in a different offense and a better QB. For a number 2 TE I think he is pretty good.

I think he is ok. I agree with the points you are trying to make. However, his lack of being able to block is what prevents me from thinking he is easily replaceable.

I dont know where you got that Delanie Walker cant block but thats simply not true
http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/02/q-should-the-49ers-consider-fleener-a.html
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/02/q-should-the-49ers-consider-fleener-a.html

San Francisco currently has two excellent tight ends in Vernon Davis, who played 96.1 percent of the team's regular season offensive snaps in 2011, and Delanie Walker, who played 52.1 percent of the snaps. (Walker missed a game and a half with a broken jaw).

So to your original question no he's not over rated cause Matt just called him excellent.
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
I like Delanie's speed, but he has average hands and cant block. The fact that we dont have a second good blocking tight end severly limits Vernon's effectiveness in the passing offense, as he is constantly called on to block. In spite of Vern's lack of playbook knowledge early on, his blocking ability (and other TE's lack there of) limits his production.

I agree 100%.
Phoenix I hear where you are coming from. Walker is a jack of all traits and not really the new age TE you are looking for. Back in the day he would have been more than enough for a #2 TE. Heck, a lot of #1's barely got used. I get that you understand times are changing and now teams should or will start looking to be like the Patriots with two great TEs. Teams are using TEs more because they are a mismatch. So I agree I would be fine if we went a guy like Fleener to go with VD but I will understand if they just fix the WR spots and leave Walker as the #2. Either way we should all be happy by next season because our receiving corp should be much much better.
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by susweel:
He's a decent player who would have better numbers in a different offense and a better QB. For a number 2 TE I think he is pretty good.

I think he is ok. I agree with the points you are trying to make. However, his lack of being able to block is what prevents me from thinking he is easily replaceable.

I dont know where you got that Delanie Walker cant block but thats simply not true

Yah he does decent job of blocking. People have to understand you are not gonna have two Vernon Davis's on one team, everybody cant be an all pro player.