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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Sus, i also think we take 2 , maybe more later, WRs. Try this on for size. Package our 1st pick(#30) with Kap or with luck, craps, and make a run at Blackmon. In a way it would be giving up 2 for 1 but if it were blackmon, i'd do it in a heartbeat. I fully expect to see 4, 5 or even 6 guys in camp that Coach knows from college and wants to see if any might just be that guy that everyone else missed. He and baalke didn't too bad with ALL DONE, who virtually everybody was disappointed with. That shows one thing: these two guys know their business. Throwing in Culliver, Miller, costanzo and acquiring Carlos, and goodwin just shows superior talent evaluation. They didn't miss on much. I am curious who they can peddle craps off to. He ain't a #1 except in pay. In play, make him a #4 or maybe #5

In FA, my hope is for Bowe. Jeez, he will have a shot at SB, will go from KC to SFO, and he has a ready made SB team, desperately in need of his services. Vince Jackson would be fine, (DeSean would NOT), Colston, maybe steelers williams.
Def better targeting one of the F.A. Wideouts this year ... draft one alos but no way we got enough juice to trade up for Blackmon.
Originally posted by YOUNGster08:
When they draft Fleener, it will be another great pick by our GM/Coach :)

I fixed it for you.
Originally posted by five1oh:
Ray Mac was a 3rd round compensatory pick. Who did we lose to get that high of a comp pick?

Just off the top of my head. Perhaps it was it Marques Douglas.
09 draft is kind of unfair since their 2nd rounder turned into Iupati.
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It's really about what lens you use to analyze the team.

You counted 22 players. Larry Grant was also a draft pick of ours a few years ago. Yes, he was released, but Baalke brought him back. So that's 23.

Then you look at the guys that have been here for a while: Shawntae Spencer, Andy Lee, and Brian Jennings. Now you are at 26 players, nearly half of the football team.

Look at the 2011 draft, we hit on 80% of our picks. Holcomb didn't make it because of injury. So add those guys in, and you are at 34 players. Add another 4 for UDFAs that made our roster: Brock, Dobbs, Williams, and Tukuafu. Now you are at 38 players.

38 players is amazing, especially if you consider the majority of those guys played on this team for a while and failed to make the playoffs until 2011.
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Originally posted by Utah9er:
Originally posted by five1oh:
Ray Mac was a 3rd round compensatory pick. Who did we lose to get that high of a comp pick?

Just off the top of my head. Perhaps it was it Marques Douglas.

I believe it was Julian Peterson.
Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by Utah9er:
Originally posted by five1oh:
Ray Mac was a 3rd round compensatory pick. Who did we lose to get that high of a comp pick?

Just off the top of my head. Perhaps it was it Marques Douglas.

I believe it was Julian Peterson.

or andre carter
Originally posted by GEEK:
It's really about what lens you use to analyze the team.

You counted 22 players. Larry Grant was also a draft pick of ours a few years ago. Yes, he was released, but Baalke brought him back. So that's 23.

Then you look at the guys that have been here for a while: Shawntae Spencer, Andy Lee, and Brian Jennings. Now you are at 26 players, nearly half of the football team.

Look at the 2011 draft, we hit on 80% of our picks. Holcomb didn't make it because of injury. So add those guys in, and you are at 34 players. Add another 4 for UDFAs that made our roster: Brock, Dobbs, Williams, and Tukuafu. Now you are at 38 players.

38 players is amazing, especially if you consider the majority of those guys played on this team for a while and failed to make the playoffs until 2011.


Yes, our drafting ability is looking up due to Harballke. Whomever they take I trust them.
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Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by Utah9er:
Originally posted by five1oh:
Ray Mac was a 3rd round compensatory pick. Who did we lose to get that high of a comp pick?

Just off the top of my head. Perhaps it was it Marques Douglas.

I believe it was Julian Peterson.

or andre carter

Carter got us a 4th round pick. It was Peterson that got us the 3rd rounder.

*97 Compensation for Julian Peterson
*104 Redskins Brandon Lloyd
*124 Jets Barlow, to Hawks
*126 Colts and 1st rd 2008 for #42
*135 Compensaton Andre Carter

^^49ers paradise
Yes, I agree we have not had good luck with WR's (see Rashawn Woods, JJ stokes).......WR and DT's have a high bust ratio. We are not the only team to bust on a defensive tackle. There are a lot of guys that sucked over the years at a lot higher draft pick.

And yes we did not take Desean Jackson, but with the Nolan regime of "nolan" guys and McCloughans big body love, we probably wouldn't have drafted him. Hell, they probably won't go after him if he's a free agent.....only at a reduced no risk price because the guy obviously has some attitude issues. Do you want a guy like that? Even Braylon Edwards was relased this year because he wasn't putting out the effort.

The bad drafts in 08 and 09 laid the foundation for getting McCloughan fired. Two bad back to back drafts can really set an organization back a bit but think of Terry Donahue and how far back he set the niners with his cruddy drafts. He murdered us for years and then his solution was to get rid of all of the high priced players and not get anything for them. OUCH.

2010 was a good draft with Lupati and Davis and Bowman is looking like a better pick than Patrick Willis because he was a third round pick. Kyle Williams has shown some great moments. (Let's not even mention playoffs)

And Last years draft was a banner draft!!! Best draft we had in a long time. This draft really took our team to the next level,


But lets talk about FA too. McCloughan didn't do so hot in FA, Walt Harris was great but not a big expensive. Justin Smith was a great pick. People forget that we overpaid for Jonas Jennings (Who was always hurt) and Nate Clements who wasn't a shut down corner. Nate has some good moments, but mostly I remember him getting toasted by the other teams Number 1 receiver and the last play that he will be remembered for, the pick against Atlanta in which the game was over. Having busts at top positions are no way to build a team.

And we have also had a bad reputation in the last decade so players haven't wanted to come.

This FA, and draft are huge for the Niners because we have so many FA's to deal with. I'm hoping most of them are going to want to come back to finish what they started this year. I saw a lot of tweets about the superbowl from the players saying they were still upset about the Championship game.

Baalke and Harbaugh will focus this year on the offense and fine tune the team. I have complete faith in them. It's hard to say but I think a TE and WR will be drafted in the first four rounds and we will probably get a WR in free agency.

TE
WR
S or C (depending on who we lose)
OG
Originally posted by GEEK:
It's really about what lens you use to analyze the team.

You counted 22 players. Larry Grant was also a draft pick of ours a few years ago. Yes, he was released, but Baalke brought him back. So that's 23.

Then you look at the guys that have been here for a while: Shawntae Spencer, Andy Lee, and Brian Jennings. Now you are at 26 players, nearly half of the football team.

Look at the 2011 draft, we hit on 80% of our picks. Holcomb didn't make it because of injury. So add those guys in, and you are at 34 players. Add another 4 for UDFAs that made our roster: Brock, Dobbs, Williams, and Tukuafu. Now you are at 38 players.

38 players is amazing, especially if you consider the majority of those guys played on this team for a while and failed to make the playoffs until 2011.

first off, I included Larry Grant, and its 22 players. second, I was talking about our drafting from 2005-2010. This has nothing to do with the team as a whole, just the talent weve added via draft since the Nolan era started until the Singletary ended it.

lol and how you turned 22 into 38 is hilarious. not only did it have nothing to do with my point, but listing anyone with an ounce of promise on the roster as draft successes makes no sense. undrafted guys dont even have anything to do with this topic.