Looking for suggestions: watching film of the 49ers

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
suggestion: never look into Andy Lee's eyes.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
It's OK as long as it's a hobby. There will be a bunch of Greg Cosell's on the forum thinking they are the motherfreak'n football aficionado because they watch films . Cosell should get a real job.

And after watching films, let me take a wild guess as to the conclusion... It's Alex Smith fault. He missed on his receivers.

Watching broadcast versions of the game isn't watching 'film'. that's not film.

No one here is talking about broadcast versions. How you got that from my post, I'm not sure....

Anyway, my whole point is even with game film without the NFL level coaching knowledge of the game, someone like Greg Cosell or an average joe with those films are prone to misinterpretation of what they see on the film on any given play.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
It's OK as long as it's a hobby. There will be a bunch of Greg Cosell's on the forum thinking they are the motherfreak'n football aficionado because they watch films . Cosell should get a real job.

And after watching films, let me take a wild guess as to the conclusion... It's Alex Smith fault. He missed on his receivers.

Watching broadcast versions of the game isn't watching 'film'. that's not film.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by hofer36:

Originally posted by Gore_21:
I had NFL Game Rewind for last offseason and this whole season. I went back and watched all the games from 2009 and 20010. You only get coaches film of like maybe 3-5 plays a game. So you can really only break down DL/OL play, QB, RB, LBs at times, and WR's on short routes, DBs if the ball goes there way or if the pass is within 5 yards usually. Anything down the field out of picture of course you can't break down which is a lot since you don't know who was open on plays, who got burnt... heck unless you know the playcall you don't know if players are running the right routes or messed up, etc.

Anyways, I have broke down film in the past, Oldman49er does it a lot as well. Just don't post thoughts on here thinking you will get compliments if you break down every play. Most people value snap judgements more than breaking down the film. It takes about 3 hours to do if you watch each play 3-4 times. You will see a ton of things you don't see if you just watch the game live. So you do learn a lot but you won't get everything obviously without being a coach and knowing the play and having the coaches tape. It can be fun but it gets tiresome when you are into hour 2-3. P.S. I liked to do it for pre-season because you can learn more about players and who you think should make the PS or roster. You get to find out more about the backups. Good way to kill time, will make you a more knowledgeable fan but not a lot of people will want to or have the time and energy to do it.

Also, may I suggest starting off by copying a play by play of the entire game on say espn or cbs sports's gamecenters. Then fill in thoughts below each play so you know what play you were writing about. Either put it in Microsoft Word and type under each play thoughts or print it out and leave room after each play to write. If you hate writing like me I would suggest typing as it is neater and faster. That's if you will make notes on every play.

Another thing to do in the offseason's to become a better and more knowledgeable fan is to watch old games or videos on youtube, hulu, etc. You can get your fix that way... watch all the nfl shows on 49ers, study old players and coaches, look stuff up on wikipedi, look at team records, stats, etc

http://www.hulu.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers
Scroll down a bit, probably thousands of hours of video there

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
It's OK as long as it's a hobby. There will be a bunch of Greg Cosell's on the forum thinking they are the motherfreak'n football aficionado because they watch films . Cosell should get a real job.

And after watching films, let me take a wild guess as to the conclusion... It's Alex Smith fault. He missed on his receivers.

Watching broadcast versions of the game isn't watching 'film'. that's not film.

Exactly. Unless you have all-22, you are not watching film.

this raises an interesting point. In the nfc championship game vs giants, alex smith got sacked on 1st play of 2nd half. The game was being covered by Fox, im sure they have a number of spotters and numerous cameras, as well as able announcers in troy aikman, a former nfl qb and joe buck...they made no comments about delanie walker being open for a possible td after the play, showed no replays which would suggest that smith missed an open walker

following the game, the niners beat writers, who surely would write about such a mistake in their post game stories, said nothing of the sort

a few days following greg cosell makes the claim that the niners missed a chance for a td when smith wouldnt pull the trigger on a wheel route to walker on the 1st play of the 2nd half...this was the first time i had heard this...if he is right, i would be surprised that aikman/buck or maiocco, barrows, inman etc would not have pointed it out

has anyone actually seen what cosell claimed occurred on this play? Im sensing he may be trying to justify his past criticsms of smith, which as the season progressed looked to me to be disproven...

Cosell works for NFL films. Cosell could might have missed that play during the game just like all the guys you mentioned. Then he watched the film and say the play. He has better access to film that those guys don't have. The guy would be out of a job if he just made up things that didn't really happen just to prove a point. You don't think anybody with the niners would contact the league to say this guy is making up erroneous claims that are totally unfounded. It wouldn't take much work to discredit the guy.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
suggestion: never look into Andy Lee's eyes.

Is Andy Lee gonna have to smack a $%&*!?

Originally posted by niners_guy:
gamerewind.nfl.com

30 bucks gets you access to all of the 2011 games plus coaches film till the end of July I think.

Not sure what they charge at the beginning of a new season.