Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by Gore_21:
I had NFL Game Rewind for last offseason and this whole season. I went back and watched all the games from 2009 and 20010. You only get coaches film of like maybe 3-5 plays a game. So you can really only break down DL/OL play, QB, RB, LBs at times, and WR's on short routes, DBs if the ball goes there way or if the pass is within 5 yards usually. Anything down the field out of picture of course you can't break down which is a lot since you don't know who was open on plays, who got burnt... heck unless you know the playcall you don't know if players are running the right routes or messed up, etc.
Anyways, I have broke down film in the past, Oldman49er does it a lot as well. Just don't post thoughts on here thinking you will get compliments if you break down every play. Most people value snap judgements more than breaking down the film. It takes about 3 hours to do if you watch each play 3-4 times. You will see a ton of things you don't see if you just watch the game live. So you do learn a lot but you won't get everything obviously without being a coach and knowing the play and having the coaches tape. It can be fun but it gets tiresome when you are into hour 2-3. P.S. I liked to do it for pre-season because you can learn more about players and who you think should make the PS or roster. You get to find out more about the backups. Good way to kill time, will make you a more knowledgeable fan but not a lot of people will want to or have the time and energy to do it.
Also, may I suggest starting off by copying a play by play of the entire game on say espn or cbs sports's gamecenters. Then fill in thoughts below each play so you know what play you were writing about. Either put it in Microsoft Word and type under each play thoughts or print it out and leave room after each play to write. If you hate writing like me I would suggest typing as it is neater and faster. That's if you will make notes on every play.
Another thing to do in the offseason's to become a better and more knowledgeable fan is to watch old games or videos on youtube, hulu, etc. You can get your fix that way... watch all the nfl shows on 49ers, study old players and coaches, look stuff up on wikipedi, look at team records, stats, etc
Scroll down a bit, probably thousands of hours of video there
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
It's OK as long as it's a hobby. There will be a bunch of Greg Cosell's on the forum thinking they are the motherfreak'n football aficionado because they watch films . Cosell should get a real job.
And after watching films, let me take a wild guess as to the conclusion... It's Alex Smith fault. He missed on his receivers.
Watching broadcast versions of the game isn't watching 'film'. that's not film.
Exactly. Unless you have all-22, you are not watching film.
this raises an interesting point. In the nfc championship game vs giants, alex smith got sacked on 1st play of 2nd half. The game was being covered by Fox, im sure they have a number of spotters and numerous cameras, as well as able announcers in troy aikman, a former nfl qb and joe buck...they made no comments about delanie walker being open for a possible td after the play, showed no replays which would suggest that smith missed an open walker
following the game, the niners beat writers, who surely would write about such a mistake in their post game stories, said nothing of the sort
a few days following greg cosell makes the claim that the niners missed a chance for a td when smith wouldnt pull the trigger on a wheel route to walker on the 1st play of the 2nd half...this was the first time i had heard this...if he is right, i would be surprised that aikman/buck or maiocco, barrows, inman etc would not have pointed it out
has anyone actually seen what cosell claimed occurred on this play? Im sensing he may be trying to justify his past criticsms of smith, which as the season progressed looked to me to be disproven...
Yeah i talked about this in another thread. I dont knock everything Cosell says, but he lost a lot of credibility with me when as a man, he couldnt humble himself and say he was wrong. Then i laughed when he wrote a follow up article trying to explain what he meant. He said nothing when the Niners beat the Saints, but after the Giants loss, then he noticed this or that. Completely avoiding the fact that we scored because of some things commentators said we never had. "Chunk Plays". We had two and Vd scored on both if im not mistaken. If anyone watched the game it was scary how almost through the beginning of the third quarter, total yardage for both teams was almost identical. And both Qb's were shut down in the second half. So i watched some of the game, not all. And although what i did watch was painful. Yes there were some throws that Smith missed, but so did Eli. And Eli missed on more than one open pass. But he didnt mention that, just how poised Eli looked, etc. I guess so poised that he made no noise in the second half. lol.
When watching any games throughout the season, there was one thing that I heard in the Giants game, then I still have yet to here consistently about our Qb and WR's. When Eli missed an open pass to Cruz, horribly. Then after getting back to the huddle. The announcer said, "Well these two are only as good as they practice together, Eli and Cruz spend soo much time learning the little nuances of Cruz's routes and moves. Like a twitch here, a curl or gesture here. Thats why these two are so deadly."
IN order to make it work, the QB, and Wr have to be on the same page one hundred percent. The Wr doesnt always have to be open, but at the same time, what little nuances have our WR's worked out with the QB to prove he can trust them 100%. I think the 2 he has this chemistry with is Morgan and Davis. WE seem to forget ALL SEASON, when our Wr's, Ginn, Williams, Walker, Crabs, all dropped not just passes, but TD passes almost 1 to 2 per game. I especially remember that seam to Ginn, where it seems like he lost the deep ball in the air. That bomb to Swain on the sideline in the Saints game, where the announcer even said, Smith threw a good ball, but he's not the receiver to be able to get a ball like that. I mean all year in one way or another we have been talking about problems with the WR core. Some say Crabs just didnt get the ball that much to make any noise, but I mean when the game was on the line, how many drops did he have. But see some overlook that, and just point to the QB. Well you cant erase that, and those drops are just as big if not bigger, than one or two bad passes.
So once again, I think in the Championship game, our main weakness was exposed, and thats the WR core, period. And we made it that far, so thats gotta be some credit given to the coaching staff and the QB with the revolving weekly door of our Wr's.