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Originally posted by susweel:I havent seen the play again but watching the game live and multiple replays to me it did not look like a fumble. I thought the refs made the correct call on that one.
Just my opinion.
Go ahead and start the flaming.
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by susweel:
I havent seen the play again but watching the game live and multiple replays to me it did not look like a fumble. I thought the refs made the correct call on that one.
Just my opinion.
Go ahead and start the flaming.
how can you watch the replays and not think that was a fumble
Originally posted by susweel:Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:Originally posted by susweel:I havent seen the play again but watching the game live and multiple replays to me it did not look like a fumble. I thought the refs made the correct call on that one.
Just my opinion.
Go ahead and start the flaming.
how can you watch the replays and not think that was a fumble
They ruled forward progress was stopped and it was.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by susweel:
I havent seen the play again but watching the game live and multiple replays to me it did not look like a fumble. I thought the refs made the correct call on that one.
Just my opinion.
Go ahead and start the flaming.
how can you watch the replays and not think that was a fumble
They ruled forward progress was stopped and it was.
In that case, so was the Whitner hit vs NO and a lot of fumbles in the league that dont instantaneously pop the ball out from a front side hit.
Originally posted by susweel:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by susweel:Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:Originally posted by susweel:I havent seen the play again but watching the game live and multiple replays to me it did not look like a fumble. I thought the refs made the correct call on that one.
Just my opinion.
Go ahead and start the flaming.
how can you watch the replays and not think that was a fumble
They ruled forward progress was stopped and it was.
In that case, so was the Whitner hit vs NO and a lot of fumbles in the league that dont instantaneously pop the ball out from a front side hit.
yah but the ball fell without another player holding him up stripping the ball.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by susweel:
I havent seen the play again but watching the game live and multiple replays to me it did not look like a fumble. I thought the refs made the correct call on that one.
Just my opinion.
Go ahead and start the flaming.
how can you watch the replays and not think that was a fumble
They ruled forward progress was stopped and it was.
In that case, so was the Whitner hit vs NO and a lot of fumbles in the league that dont instantaneously pop the ball out from a front side hit.
yah but the ball fell without another player holding him up stripping the ball.
Forward progress is forward progress per rule.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
The ref was standing right there with a good look at Bowman stripping the ball. If Bowman doesn't get the ball loose my bet is the whistle doesn't get blown until Bradshaw is on his back. We've all seen the exact same play thousands of times where the ref swallows the whistle until the play is fully concluded . . . except this time.
So this. I think refs have a mental alert once they see players reach in and rip. it is normal and even if i were a ref, i would be quicker to blow a whistle on forward progress if see a rip happening.
BUT this opens a can of worms. One can make a claim Whitners hit on the Saints running back was not a fumble due to forward progress. The hit happened and the RB was turned which immediately stopped forward progress. The ball started to fall out after his body turned.
Solution: award forward progress on downed players but a player MUST keep full possession of the ball until he is stood up, the whistle blows and the play is clearly dead or if he is down by contact prior to fumble.
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by susweel:
I havent seen the play again but watching the game live and multiple replays to me it did not look like a fumble. I thought the refs made the correct call on that one.
Just my opinion.
Go ahead and start the flaming.
how can you watch the replays and not think that was a fumble
They ruled forward progress was stopped and it was.
In that case, so was the Whitner hit vs NO and a lot of fumbles in the league that dont instantaneously pop the ball out from a front side hit.
yah but the ball fell without another player holding him up stripping the ball.
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by susweel:
I havent seen the play again but watching the game live and multiple replays to me it did not look like a fumble. I thought the refs made the correct call on that one.
Just my opinion.
Go ahead and start the flaming.
how can you watch the replays and not think that was a fumble
They ruled forward progress was stopped and it was.
In that case, so was the Whitner hit vs NO and a lot of fumbles in the league that dont instantaneously pop the ball out from a front side hit.
yah but the ball fell without another player holding him up stripping the ball.
And the same hit that knocked the guy out, knocked the ball out. Different situation.
Originally posted by HessianDud:
this is one of those situations that if the whistle was a few seconds later, the entire play, and game, is different. Refs need to be instructed to hold their breath until the play is clearly over. They use replay to save their own asses enough already, might as well leave those kinds of plays up to replay as well.
Originally posted by RonRon:
I hate Ed Hocili!,,, the guy has screwed so many teams,,, he could have overruled the whistle for forward progress....
