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Defending Jimmy Graham
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM
- Ninerfan81
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The guy is a freak at 6'6 and very athletic! I know we don't have any 6'6 cornerbacks on the roster so how do you defend against this guy. TEs have given us fits over the years because of the zone defence we play in the secondary. We had no answer for Jason Whitten in week 2 and if I recall Heath Miller had a monster game for the Steelers.
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM
- valrod33
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Take out his knees and hope he tears a ligament
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:21 AM
- 49AllTheTime
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This will be a tough match up.
The best way i can think of is to disrupt the timing by chipping him at the line or bump n run when he's wide. Hopefully our D can get pressure so he wont be an 2nd or third option
The best way i can think of is to disrupt the timing by chipping him at the line or bump n run when he's wide. Hopefully our D can get pressure so he wont be an 2nd or third option
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:23 AM
- dtg_9er
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We hope that they can A) hit or sack the QB, B) keep Graham down to a few catches. Having Willis double him might help as well. He will give up 5" but he will not let him get away after the catch...which has killed many teams this year. I agree that when these 6'6" athletic TEs can catch and run like deer...hard to deal with.
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:27 AM
- ninertico
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Um...our defense lines up against this type of TE every practice. Maybe you've heard of him....Vernon Davis. Ring a bell? Vernon's leaping ability rivals or maybe surpasses Graham's.
We will be prepared for him as well as the entire Saints O. I welcome the challenge, but we do match up well as long as both Willis and Bowman are 100% healthy as most likely Willis will cover him like he did against Pettigrew from Detroit. Yes, he scored once, but many attempts were thrown his way. Willis did a great job in that game.
We shall see just how healthy Willis is as they will test him.
We will be prepared for him as well as the entire Saints O. I welcome the challenge, but we do match up well as long as both Willis and Bowman are 100% healthy as most likely Willis will cover him like he did against Pettigrew from Detroit. Yes, he scored once, but many attempts were thrown his way. Willis did a great job in that game.
We shall see just how healthy Willis is as they will test him.
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:32 AM
- ace52
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I remember watching a segment on NFL Network where they had put a mike on Drew Brees during a game, and hearing him say "when nothing else works, just throw it up for the big guy (Graham)" . So yeah, they clearly intend to use his height advantage to its fullest, and we'd better be ready with a game plan to shut him down, or at least minimize his impact.
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:35 AM
- rigs49
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You send the Hawk at him.
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:38 AM
- Juniorminime
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Take out his knees and hope he tears a ligament
Don't worry Dirty D will do that this weekend....
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:46 AM
- kemp_j
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Originally posted by rigs49:
You send the Hawk at him.
This!
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:47 AM
- Ninerfan81
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Its in the redzone that this guy can truly be a matchup nightmare. We know the Saints are going to score their TDs. We score an average of 25pts at home so I think if we hold them to 30pts we can win 33 to 30.
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:50 AM
- gamechanger
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T.O.P. and scoring is the best defense.
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:52 AM
- stonecold590
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Just like GBs Finnley you have to treat him as a WR. Not as a TE
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:53 AM
- dtg_9er
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Originally posted by ninertico:
Um...our defense lines up against this type of TE every practice. Maybe you've heard of him....Vernon Davis. Ring a bell? Vernon's leaping ability rivals or maybe surpasses Graham's.
We will be prepared for him as well as the entire Saints O. I welcome the challenge, but we do match up well as long as both Willis and Bowman are 100% healthy as most likely Willis will cover him like he did against Pettigrew from Detroit. Yes, he scored once, but many attempts were thrown his way. Willis did a great job in that game.
We shall see just how healthy Willis is as they will test him.
Tico--both TEs are great but they play different styles, with Graham playing high ball and VD playing fast ball. Not sure that VD jumps as well as Graham...or it could be the QB making the difference (?). Graham is deadly in the RZ as they can just throw the ball up and he outjumps everyone. Hard to defense that but the just need to bump him to get him off his route or get to the QB...or, preferably, both. I agree about them playing Pettigrew well and would expect that to be their plan.
Jan 5, 2012 at 8:53 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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It's not just that Graham is so damn good, it's that the Saints have SO many weapons around Graham that makes defending any one target a brutal challenge.
The best way to beat the Saints is to disguise what we are doing... which means lots of pre-snap movement from our defenders. The Saints are so devastating with their screen game... so we can't just send the house around the edge. We could try playing that soft-arse zone D and hope to Jeebus that they make some errors... but I do hate that ish.
I don't know... aside from the pre-snap movement to disguise intent? I just don't know. Bets bet is to do that on D, and on O? We gotta play keep-away and get them frustrated with lack of possessions.
The best way to beat the Saints is to disguise what we are doing... which means lots of pre-snap movement from our defenders. The Saints are so devastating with their screen game... so we can't just send the house around the edge. We could try playing that soft-arse zone D and hope to Jeebus that they make some errors... but I do hate that ish.
I don't know... aside from the pre-snap movement to disguise intent? I just don't know. Bets bet is to do that on D, and on O? We gotta play keep-away and get them frustrated with lack of possessions.
Jan 5, 2012 at 9:02 AM
- sixbricks
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Give him a taste of Willis tackle